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I’m thinking of running some Tren A at only 100mg a week . Anyone ever run this low ? Also what sides did you experience ? And what results ? Never ran Tren before so slightly nervous about it
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Low dose tren works great for me as an anti-catabolic agent when I am in a fat loss phase. I find 15-20mg per day (105 - 140mg per week) of tren ace is enough to ensure I don't lose the appearance of muscular size or gym performance even at fairly significant rates of loss (i.e. 1 - 1.25% body weight per week).
I run the trenbolone acetate on top of my "cruise" stack which consists of testosterone, a very small amount of nandrolone, and a small amount of masteron.
The side effects at that dose are mild. My hrv, resting hr and bp go up slightly and I experience what I would describe as a slightly higher baseline level of psychological agitation. This dose does not cause issues like sexual disfunction or sleep disruption.
@Mjl777 - upon reading the results you are looking to get from this compound, I would not recommend it. I do not feel like low dose tren would be a good candidate for someone looking to put on additional contractile tissue. There are other aas out there with less side effects that will do that job equally well with less negative side effects. IMO, tren shines in terms of its ability to prevent contractile tissue loss during a calorie deficit, and to rapidly increase strength / neural output.
If you do decide you want to try it out, just so you can establish your own opinion based on personal experience, I would not dissuade you from such an experiment. Tren ace "hits" fast and clears fairly quickly as well, so, you will fairly quickly be able to determine if you enjoy the benefits it provides, and can be free of most undesirable effects within a week (give or take) of dropping from your stack completely.
*edited so I could "@" the OP
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Thank you for sharing this. I have been researching lower dose tren as I have also never used it as well. How you described your usage of it exactly describes the way I had planned on using it. I feel like using it this way on the last 6 weeks of a cut could produce great results ofc with diet in place. In your "cruise" stack + trenA, what are the doses of your test/mast/tren? Also, at a low dose like such do you have to worry about prolactin? I am sure that varies across the board but in general what would you say? @koensayr_s3
Hey there @bigred250.
Your mileage may vary based on how far away you are from your "natural limit," but something like 420 test / 105 deca / 105 mast is what I need to roughly hold on to the muscle I have. I was about 125 lbs in high school and 135 lbs in my early 20s, so now in my mid 30s in the 205-215 lbs range, I am quite a bit bigger than my body would like to be.
Adding 105 - 140 mg tren to that "base" stack is my go-to aas intervention when I want to get some fat off in short order without sacrificing muscle size or strength.
In addition to the aas, I usually bump up the gh to the 6iu per day range and run clen at ascending doses going from 20-80mcg per day as a way to help keep things moving in the right direction quickly without having to drop kcal intake or increase daily energy expenditure to drastically.
This is awesome man. I appreciate you taking the time to share!
@bigred250 You are most welcome.
I saw that I failed to answer your prolactin question. Keeping test / deca low, I don't run into any prolactin problems (i.e. leaky nipples, ed, or anorgasmia) when I take tren.
When I have experimented with high test (750 - 1100 mg per week), while concurrently running "higher" nandrolone (400+ mg per week), I have experienced all the above mentioned side effects once I added tren ace to the picture. I fixed this with cabergoline. P5P up to 400mg per day did not alleviate any symptoms.
Interestingly, HCG + Tren also seems to create prolactin side effects for me, even when my total anabolic intake is low. Time before last that I made use of tren a, I was taking 300mg test + 100 deca + 100 primo with HCG @ 250iu eod. When I added in 70mg tren ace, I started having very painful nipples w/ discharge and could not perform well even when taking cialis. I tried dropping the HCG since it was the only new variable in that ped stack, and found that my high prolactin sides went away after about a week.
Don't waste your time or money doing this as you won't get any results from it, Tren ace has to be ran every other day or ideally every day to get the best results from it. In regards to 500mg/wk Test being the sweet spot, that tends to be the opinion of guys who don't like a lot of Test in their cycles due to being prone to gyno or high BP etc. Test works great up 1 gram per week then after that you get diminishing returns and you are best stacking it with other compounds to make things more productive. Increasing it from 500mg/wk will get you more size and strength if you are looking to bulk, but would not be ideal for cutting as such. NPP or Deca would be a good compound for you to try adding into your cycle rather than upping the Test I feel.
Just sparked a question, do you think you get more from taking your standard test cycle from 500 to say 750 in terms of size and strength vs adding a compound like NPP and keeping the test at 500??
This would be a great forum topic
I can throw that I up.
That’s what I’m actually wondering as well , will I benefit more from staying at 500 test and adding smithing compound or will I benefit more from bumping test to 750 a week with an AI
Good question mate!! Keeping Test at 500mg and adding in NPP at say 350 - 400mg will get you stronger and bigger.
Then if you wanted to take it to the next level you would add either Dbol or Anadrol.
Hell ya I remember you saying NPP felt pretty good.
Have to post up stats and cycle experience. What are you looking to achieve and what are you expecting to gain at such a low dose. I can tell you right now, you won’t really yield much with such a low dose.
6’2” 210 38 years old , train 6 days a week . Looking to put on some lean size and strength just want to minimize the nasty sides so wanted to run a low dose 100-150
Cycle history and bf?
4 cycles of test 1 cycle Anavar and winstrol and 1 cycle of dbol body fat not sure exactly at the moment I’ll say 12 percent to be safe
Alright so you have decent cycle experience. I hate to be the one to give generic responses that gaining lean muscle is achievable through diet but you won’t achieve size through that dose of Tren. Quite honestly, Tren works for me solely as a cutter no matter the calories . You’re better off with something like primo or altering your test dose with some Anavar and GH. Primo has great protein synthesis and some will even make the claim even more so than tren. IMO, it’s not worth the reward vs risk factor unless you’re looking to compete. Also, I’m one of those guys that will make the claim that I achieve more strength gains on var than Tren because Tren makes me feel lethargic at times.
I debated running higher than 500 of test this time . But a lot of people saying 500 is the sweet spot and going up doesn’t yield much more only creates side effects . I debated primo also EQ
Yeah, I’d really invest in primo for lean quality gains and skip the Tren for now. Eq has its own side effects that don’t make it worth running. Also, I don’t like running test higher than 350/400 max because I just deal with more side effects. I like to keep it low and run quality products like Primo/var/GH or just use all three in the same cycle. It really depends on the user but it sounds like you’re trying to just refine your physique which is totally achievable with other products.
Tren is like that stripper that makes you do Lines of coke to keep up while also putting you at risk for an STd or near death experience with the occasional euphoric sensation from your heart about to stop. She might appear as a fertility goddess but she’s more parasitic in nature and a threat to all men of our species due to her ability to harness our life force.
Primo is like that woman you meet site seeing at a beautiful national park near a waterfall. You’re not sure if she’s a divine nature Goddess or just a quality person that appreciates the beauty of nature. She will strive to make you a better person, bare your children and will always support you.
Tren will always give you an STD
Both arguably have their time and place…
Yes strippers will always have a place in my mind. Its been awhile. Whose got dollar BILLS
Says it all…..
Lol the crazy axis begins at 4.
Well of course…like a handicap in golf.
Hilarious