Suspension Battling
Which Suspension Test No Ester do you prefer, in oilbased or water based? Me personally after having tried both I have to give it to the oil based. The oil for me gets the advantage because it doesn't cause me any PIP after administering 100mg or injection knotting and is much easier to pin. It definitely does hype my workout but doesn't truly spike my libido...
What I do like about the water based is that I do feel a bit more of an energy spike and it makes my libido skyrocket. I get knotting and PIP in the injection spot for a couple of days afterwards which can make sitting down a literal pain in the @$$ as well as sometimes it's a tougher inject due to clogging. I've learned that the angle of injection can somewhat lessen the clogging but it can be somewhat tedious.
As I'm typing this, I wonder if I combined 50mg oil with 50mg water based how that would make me feel...Just wanted to know what someone else thinks
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Oil based. Oil based TNE is quicker to provide effect needed than water based.
AK80Whatever the US #3 on here uses. 50mg an hour before the gym keeps me chubbed slightly, good strength, slight libido and last for about 6 hours. Guaiacol is not a big deal for me.
TNE and Test Base are the both the same compound in Oil, and Test Suspension is Test 'Visibly Suspended' in water. Give me Test Base any day over Suspension, both will of hit and got into your system by the time you have replaced the cap on the needle so time taken for it to work isn't even a factor. What is a deciding factor though is how many times I have had a 21G or 23G hanging out my arse and the bastard has clogged up!! Then even if you do manage to get it in, the resulting PIP from the test crystals just sitting in the muscle for several days afterwards can be absolute agony. You do get a bit more time out of the Oil version too, it doesn't dissipate as quickly as the water version.
In regards to mixing water and oil together in the same barrel - I've been doing this for years and had many debates with members over whether this is right or wrong, then people try it and agree it works really well and actually aids the oil in going through the needle more quickly. Also, why would they need to mix in with one another to create one solution? The idea is we are putting them both in the same barrel to save on the number of injections we need to do, they are both in there for around 10 seconds and then shot into the muscle where they dissipate into the muscle quickly. Why would we need them to be in one united solution when in the muscle?
I know exactly what you mean with the water based being clogged, it can make for a tough pin as I will be pinning it then it stops then I push a little harder and it shots super fast making me cringe a bit...I definitely love the effects. Thanks for sharing your knowledge it's greatly appreciated by me and I'm sure by other eroid members as we all learn something new everyday from each other. I see this as Eroid University, I'm currently a Freshmen so I keep quiet and learn from all the upper classmen like yourself....You have a tremendous amount of knowledge....So it is possible to mix both compounds, I wonder how that would make me feel, hopefully unstoppable for a couple of hours. I need any edge that I can get...
Never stay quiet about something you know about or have experience with buddy, you don't have to of tried all the steroids under the sun to know what a certain compound is like to run or what a good dosage routine is. Everybody has their own strengths and weaknesses in knowledge on here, after a while you will get a feel for who you tend to agree with in most aspects etc.
Haha im so old school i thought "test suspension" is only with water and "test no ester" is only with oil. Two totally different things. But like i said im behind in times. The oil i would prefer because theres always been more reported problems with the water crashing in you muscle etc. i know some some people prefer the winstrol with water better than the oil. My preference 8for both would be oil with my PIP sensitivity. Pretty sure the 2 wont ever really mix but stay separated in the syringe. Oil and water dont mix too well i learned in 7th grade chemistry class.
Get points made, I've never claimed to be an Einstein...Ibut ido know that Hard Work Work..I had no idea of the water being able to crash in the muscle...That right there is something new that I've learned from you and I greatly appreciate your feedback....Thank you
Yeah i believe thats the main reason for the PIP from water based over oil. Something about separating and crystallizing in muscle. Im no Einstein either just a wise ass lol. But i think water based hits faster so that's why some are willing to trade the PIP
Yes it is a sacrifice, as I'm like, "I don't want to pin it" but I make the plunge into the deep end... Thanks for your response Pumped, it's appreciated here
Thats pretty much it right there......its why I like Winny oil instead of that water based stuff. I get horrible PIP with it.
Nah you're an Einstein and you know it. You know alot about politics and every subject in the world basically so quit downplaying it all lol.
Nah but you're right on what you said
I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut... Thanks Deeman, the community appreciates you
Much appreciated boss
Lol nah man you're right, suspension and tne are two different carrier forms of test base and yes technically both have no ester. Just wording. Suspension is water based so it will need to be shaken while tne is oiled based and doesn't need to be shaken, oily solution.
Lol yep oil and water doesn't mix...I learned that in 7th grade I think too, maybe earlier
anvilPeople used to swear by test suspension, didn't it come in like a 30ml bottle ?
There is a source that does bang em out in those big jugs, he no longer delivers over seas to the EU...
Damn I want to say it came in either 20ml or 30 ml vials
Yeah back in the day it did. I remember that brand
I loved it but it did have guaiacol (spelling). There use to be a Big someone who had fire TNE, I miss that guy...
O you're talking about TNE. Anvil was asking about test suspension. That suspension had many asses hurting lol. Wonder what src that was you're talking about
anvilAt that time I was like I am never injecting anything daily, now with hgh and prop I am injecting multiple times daily.
Thank you DeeMan for your post, you just saved me from a "WTF" what have I done wrong moment. I can't afford to waist my oils, "aka exilir of life, the "fountain of my youth"
I can dig it. No problem. Just be careful with the water based suspension. Lol what did you think you done wrong?
Honestly, I've been doing all wrong from day one but good people like yourself help me to correct myself and for that I'm grateful
5th grade was too big of a stone to throw lol
Lol sounds like a shout out to the rock thrower!!! He was around yesterday..throwing rocks lol.
It's like that one kid that would throw rocks at other kids then go hide lol