posted Fri, 02/23/2024 - 04:14
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Sterile water for reconstituting hgh
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I know two of the main things used for hgh are BAC and Sterile water. Sterile water is good for 4-5 days, which id be done with it by the 4th day.
I’ve been using bac, but looking at sterile water…I have a 6 stage reverse osmosis filter for water, the 6th stage being a uv-c filter to sterilize everything. The reverse osmosis pulls out all the dissolved solids in it.
Being as I’m done with my hgh vial in 3-4 days, would this be an okay substitute over having to make sure I don’t run out of BAC? It’s filtered & sterilized, so I’m curious if anyone else has ever looked into this or tried it.
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I wouldn’t risk it. Don’t invite bullshit into your life to save $20
Wasn’t just about the money savings but about convenience too. In the end, decided just not worth it. Infections when subq’ing are a lot easier to get than IV, so it’s not worth the risk. Rather have a little preservation in it. I’d be cutting it close with the 4-5 days that sterile water is good for anyway.
I hear ya, Bro. I get my water from Amazon within a day or two. I get two 30mil bottles for 18 bucks
Bac water. Dont mess with your health
Dirt cheap on amazon
I agree. You and I should do this more.
Lmao
Lol...he's shy
Yeah that’s what I managed to piece together. You have one on Amazon that you’ve bought and was good? Reading some of the reviews on bac on Amazon and it’s hit or miss with them. Some come with shit floating in it. It’s so much cheaper on Amazon though lol
I agree with these guys it's not worth the risk. And yes bac water can be a hit or miss.
2 Pack of (30 mL) Quality Pure Reconstitution Solution https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8JR3F6L?ref_=cm_sw_r_apann_dp_DN8EH7067RZQ4...
2pk 16 bucks
those are decent ones. I have had some bac water off amazon that burns like hell. Always made me leary ordering from amazon after that.
@DeeMan @Jockstrap this is why I asked this question…if I added the deionization filter onto my RO system that already has a uv-c filter on it, I could just buy benzyl alcohol and make BAC myself.
I’m not going to, I don’t use enough to go through the hassle of making it, but my idea is basically exactly how it’s made. The mark up on BAC is insane. I’m going to become a source for solely BAC lmao
Problem is the benzyl alcohol will probably cost more than the bac water itself. That wouldn't surprise me nowadays.
Surprisingly it’s pretty cheap. $45 for a gallon, smaller sizes for cheaper, and it’d last forever considering you only need .27ml to make 30ml of BAC.
You can go to pharmacy and build your own, yes. Cost prohibitive but yes. No ionic bs whatever. Lab grade ingredients. So after 200bucks you still could have gotten premade pharma? 30ml last me near a year so with half a gallon you can support a team for years. Lol
My system is already built, I have a pretty high end reverse osmosis system for my hydroponic garden. Only thing I’d need to add would be the deionization filter, which eliminates the rest of the TDS that the RO didn’t. My RO generally gets me to around 7-10 TDS, which is extremely low. My tap water is 400tds. The deionization filter would remove the 7-10 tds left over, then run through the uv-c sterilizer, and I’m left with sterile water, then just do the math for whatever amount you’re making and add the benzyl alcohol in it.
It’s actually really simple. I still don’t plan on doing it, I don’t go through it quick enough to be assed with having to make it, and I’m not selling it…so not really worth it. It could be a very viable option, though, imo.
My garden is all organic, reused ammended soil. Trying to keep the veggies all earrhy natural.
Let me buy some veggies from ya...saves me a trip to Walmart. Veggies coming straight from the jock!
I’m in straight RWDWC (recirculating waterfall deep water culture) hydroponics. So it was essential for me to get a reverse osmosis machine because my tap water is extremely hard. The RO brings it down from 400 to 7-10tds. Basically pure water. If I wanna remove the little 1-2%, the 7-10 left over, I just have to add the deionizer to the system. That removes the final little bit. That tiny little bit of tds is insignificant for my hydro system, it’s close enough to a clean slate of water and gives me complete control of what’s in the water, and with the added uv-c sterilizer, my water starts clean and sterile so the Bennies don’t have to work as hard. I have absolutely no media besides the rockwool I use when started seeds, if i clone in the aero cloner, I don’t have any media at all in the system. Keeps it cleaner and less prone to bug issues since I’m inside.
I honestly never thought I’d enjoy gardening. Only picked it up to save money. Ended up spending more money on equipment and seeds lmao but it was worth it. I enjoy it, I love learning new things, love building things from scratch based of concepts and getting them to work. My brains always moving a mile a second, constantly thinking of random shit…which is what led me to this question because I was checking my filters and thought “I’m already making sterile water. What’s the difference between this and sterile water sold and/or bac? Come to find out, bac is made with the exact same machine (maybe a larger scale one depending on how much they make, but even my system can make 150 gallons of RO a day), followed by demonization, and then uv-c. Then benzyl alcohol added and boom…BAC.
Seeing as how cheap benzyl alcohol is, and the price of demonization add on filter to my unit, I may in the future when I change out all my filters and UV-C bulb, try making some for shits and giggles. I just like learning and experimenting. My meters don’t lie, as long as the tds is 0, uv-c light isn’t old, and the math is simple…it should theoretically make the same thing.
If I even do that little experiment, it’s a long time away. I’ll only do that if I have the extra money, otherwise for the price bac is, and how long it lasts, I can’t justify doing it any time soon. It’s a cool idea though.
I don’t run a sterile Dwc system. I have a water chiller and run beneficial bacteria and enzymes to keep any pathogens/root rot at bay. The growth is out of this world, plants grow like 4”+ a night. I scrog them to get the most use out of my space because im indoor in a tent.
No doubt that would be a huge turnoff.
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It'll take you a week to digest that brisket..Too fatty. Get some good fish, not referring to your girlfriend either lol
A week to digest sounds like slow release protein to me. Long estered protein. Only gotta eat it twice a week…
Yep. Would make casein look like whey hydro. And since I'm no big eater that would benefit me. O well, maybe in 50-100 years or so.
I saw that one. One thing I didn’t like is it’s stored in plastic containers not glass, and has mixed reviews. I fucking hate Amazon reviews because sellers give their shit away for fake 5 star reviews, and there is no other way to “check” them. Have you personally used that one by any chance?
https://www.fakespot.com/
Pharmacy bac water is in plastic HPLC with is medical grade. You can find the medical brand as well and its still cheap. 30ml lasts a long long time. Ive been using this brand 2 years without any issues
The last 30ml glass ive ever seen is pharma in europe. They do look cool in glass and are available. Theres we sources on here making bac water. Again, amazon and you will recognize the label
you would probably be ok if using it up right away. Probably just easier to keep a vial of bac in the fridge though. The sterile water would be ok but what about the container it would be going into? that would be my biggest fear.
Yeah that’s a good point. I originally thought of just reusing the bac vials I have, but it won’t stay sterile for long and not being able to open it and clean it, I’d need a sterile container every time I fill it up. Doesn’t seem worth the risk when BAC is cheap and $20 will last me quite a while depending on where I get it from.
It was just a random thought that went through my head. Think I’m just going to play it safe and stay with bac.
When peptides came out, folks were using sterile water with vinegar. They lived.
My friend got his fetnahl shot replaced with tap water and died. A junky nurse did the switcheroo on him. Fact.
Play it safe. I know subq is different than iv or IM.
You seem pretty smart. Proably know what your doing, I was just saying
I’m a recovering heroin addict and I’ll be honest…I’ve used some pretty suspect water before. I never did toilet water or anything like that, I usually had water with me, but I’ve seen people use puddle water to shoot up with and the worst I did was wipe water off my windshield (was raining). I suspect that the tap water isn’t what killed your friend (I’m sorry for your loss. I’ve lost basically all my friends to this shit) but I honestly don’t know.
I know bac isn’t expensive. I’ll probably just stick to that. Subq (in my experience with drugs) is more prone to infection than other methods. I was just wondering if RO water with a UV-C sterilizer would essentially create sterilized water. I’ll probably just stay with getting BAC. If it was more expensive, that’d be different…but it’s not a huge expense. Last thing I need is an abscess or infection. Kinda just curious if others have done this. Over the course of a year, if I used that instead, the savings of BAC would basically pay for my RO system.
There was a nurse who killed 11 people using tap water. But just like you I’d initially say I don’t think that’s the case because junkies shoot tap water and worse all day. But idk The hospitals are saying that’s what’s killed them so maybe the tap water grows bacteria in the iv lines and when you shoot dope it’s not sitting in a tube for hours and hours, maybe that’s it idk?
BUT it definitely is nothing to play around with. I used distilled water once, thinking it would be fine. I throw all my empty vials in this box and then dispose of it when it’s full. After a few months I was getting rid of all of them and there was like three hgh vials that where filled with green moldy growth in them. I’m assuming those were the vials I had used distilled water in. It scared the fuck out of me. When you use it up in three days it probably doesn’t have time to grow a lot of bacteria and your not putting it in a vein which would be way worse but still extremely dangerous so fuck all that.
Also in my experience with IV vs subq, you’re more prone to infection/abscesses doing subq vs IV. Go ask anyone who has shot coke. I did it once and I absolutely hated it, but I had acquaintances who loved it, and every time they missed a vein and “skin popped” (subq), they’d get an abscess. One kid I knew had probably 50-100 scars on each arm from abscesses from shooting so much coke. IV gets right into the blood stream, where as subq sits for a bit and if anything is dirty, more of a chance of it causing an infection.
Yes for sure BUT Iv is more dangerous has far as infection of the heart and things like that. Sub q bacteria will give you an abscess, iv bacteria will kill you
Sterile water is good for 4-5 days. After that, it isn’t really sterile anymore because of no preservatives.
I’m not talking about using tap water though.
I’m talking about using a reverse osmosis filter that removes about 97-98% TDS from your tap water. Add on the deionization filter, and that gets rid of the last 1-2% of TDS. Leaving you with pure water, no contaminates. Then it runs through a UV-C sterilizer filter, which sterilizes it. From there, just simple math and can add the .9% benzyl alcohol and you now have BAC water.
It’s exactly how they make it in labs. Their filter machines may be a little larger scale, but it’s the same thing. It even says on one of the listings for BAC that that’s exactly how they make it.
If I was to ever try it out of boredom, I wouldn’t do it unless I had fresh filters, new uv-c bulb as they degrade over time, and have to buy benzyl alcohol. Not worth it for me when I can get 30-60 ml for under $20 that’ll last me months.
I just find it interesting how things are made. I’ve built tons of custom stuff from scratch that out perform commercial pre built things. I just like learning everything and anything. Just not economical for me to make BAC, it’d take like 2-3 years to make my money back because I don’t use much. Still fun to learn about it
Oh I get it man. If I was a millionaire I’d have warehouses and workshops and laboratories and all types of shit to learn and build everything and anything from chemicals to pharmaceuticals to machines and weapons and everything in between. The only problem I see with what your talking about doing is idk how you would know if it was safe to use or not. You could maybe inject some into a sterile vial and leave it at room temp for a week and look under a microscope to see if bacteria grew? And then maybe if nothing grew then it would be safe to use maybe? Idk if that’s foolproof tho.
60 days off the junk for me! Keep on keeping on everybody!
I've shot puddle water, soda, Gatorade, snow, liquor.
Fuck the dope. Nothing but pain and misery.
Good job! The first 30 is the hardest. You can do it, never have to be dope sick ever again! Since 2010 for me. Good watch my brother put out
https://youtu.be/HuwzX8Zp3Vo?si=pf2cmVAf2tcEcynm
He sounds like he could have a future making those videos. Captivating. Intelligent. Humble. Wish I starred a youtube channel for something years ago when my family told me not to waste so much time online. These kids are insanely rich from yt/tic tok.
Keep on keeping on brotha!
Good shit dude. Keep up the good work. Your best day high will never be better than your worst day sober. Congrats on 60 days.
It takes two weeks and my sanity comes back and then I think ... "what the fuck was I thinking? Why didn't I do this sooner?" The mental illness is real.
It really is. I’m for the most part pretty physically healthy. Mentally, not so much. It’s not as simple to heal mental illnesses, esp when you have so many from a lifelong of physical, verbal and sexual abuse, coupled with addiction and ptsd, adhd, and some ocd. My brain is fucked, and trying to find decent help for it is extremely hard unless you have good insurance and pay your way for the right prescriptions. Otherwise the ones I’m stuck with, won’t prescribe me a medication I used to be prescribed but the psych closed down, and instead want to throw cocktails or random shit at me and make sit around for months wondering if it’s even doing anything. Shit sucks, I’ve been through this with every fucking doctor/psych. I’ve tried so many different of SSRIs and the likes, and never had good success. I tell them that, and they still insist on trying again. I fucking hate it, because I’m just wasting time trying these medications that I’ve done before instead of just writing the script I used to be on, that worked great for me.
Keep your head up. I won’t lie and say it’s always easy. The amount of damage you can do to your life in such a short time when using, and takes forever to fix it. It will test your patience and some days you’ll just feel defeated, not getting anywhere, and want to give up. Don’t give in to that. Nothing good will come out of relapsing and using again, if you’re lucky you’ll only end up in jail/prison. More than likely, with all the fent and that xylazine shit (elephant tranq that Narcan does nothing for and it eats away at your skin almost like that krokodil shit from ukraine), you’d have a good chance of dying. I’ve seen it time and time and time again. Someone gets clean for a few months, has no tolerance anymore, and I’ve seen ONE $2 bag kill someone who was 6’6”, 300+ lbs (not fat but bulky muscular). He’s not the only one. I didn’t believe one person I knew when he said he od on one bag. I was like no way (back when I did it, it was before fent and was actual dope), then more and more people started coming out saying they OD in one bag. Shits scary. I’ve lost so many friends/acquaintances. It’s sad, but I’ve become desensitized to it. It’s just like well…another one bites the dust. It’s sad. I feel like my mother’s HS class has more people left alive in it than mine.
I’m grateful that I got out of it. My life isn’t perfect. I have so much I need to work on. I’m doing the best I can to move forward and try to make positive steps. It’s just not as quickly as I’d like, but I’m also impatient and have to keep it in check.
Sorry for the rant. Feel free to add me if you ever need someone to talk to, some advice, whatever dude. I’d hate to see someone relapse. I’m not judgmental at all…I’m the absolute last person that could judge anyone and would be extremely hypocritical.
Jax, Reading this post brought back terrible memories. That was my life for too many years as well. Im going on 7 years clean now, wont ever look back. During active addiction I weighed 137lb and very bony. I am now at just under 200 and in the best shape of my life. Not sure if I would have gotten into anabolics after getting clean if I didnt wreck my endocrine system with opiates. Who knows though?
I wonder the same thing. I’m going on 8 years sober this June. Congrats bro. I have a feeling all my opiate usage on top of other medical issues is what ruined my test and made me have to get on trt at my age.
I'm I recovery as well. 14 years.
I've been strungout. Don't let your past define you.
I'm better than where I was then.
And yeah I've seen some dirty shit by healthy people.
Windshield water. Lmao
https://youtu.be/SMprI958z94?si=L0Ax5SpTvWQkJFIW
It's a fact bro. He died of a blood infection caused by tap water
Yeah I've met a lot of dudes that got endocarditis and had to have open hart surgery. That shit is no joke. I'm blessed to still be relatively healthy with all my limbs and not in a wheelchair locked up for the rest of my life. It's really a miracle.