Primo is an excellent compound, but it comes at a hefty price. To get the most out of it, you should use it for an extended period of time and at higher doses.
Excellent when ran correctly. Glad labs are now doing 200mg instead of the old 100mg. Much better than pinning a bunch of oil each week. I usually do well with 1:1 with test.
Use it right and you will be rewarded. Diet needs to be meticulous with this compound which most people are too lazy to do and then complain it is bunk when they don't put on 15lbs during cycle.
Yep. Me too. TRT dose test, high dose primo is where it shines best IMO. Go too high with test and you don't generally see primos true potential. If one starts primo with highish % body fat...it's a waste of time/money and will end up very disappointed lol. Primo is expensive for a reason. It's ggreeaaat
One thing I have noticed as I get older is that primo is starting to tank my estro. Never had that effect on me before. I always used to run a TRT type dose with it and was just fine, but this last cycle running 250-300mg of test it ended up tanking my estro. I also noticed that when my bodyfat starts to get real low like around 6% or so, my estro starts to drop like a rock also while using it. The leaner I get on it the more test I have to use to balance estro or I really feel like a shit storm. which is weird.
Lots of data to back up dropping estro on primo. Surprised it’s as significant as that for you Makwa, but as Drexel states below, bodies react differently and certainly our age has an impact too. I am currently running primo with 400mg of test weekly. Will keep an eye on with numbers out of curiosity/ research purposes.
I bumped test up another 100mg and the estro issue was resolved but then I added some tren in and then that kicked my ass. I have talked to a couple of other guys now about it and they essentially need to run primo 1:1 with test to keep estro at tolerable level. I always used to recommend a TRT type dose with pimo but now I think I need to revise that to run just enough test to keep estro levels happy. Run test as low as possible.
This is not a troll comment, so please don’t take it as such. I used to have the most outrageous allergy to cat hair, I could post a funny pic as I was a child, it wouldn’t be be recognizable, was never posted online. But I outgrew it. My wife wanted a cat, we have one. Bodies change, there’s things that science can’t explain. Sometimes you have to go with what’s working, wether it be for the past six months or the past six minutes. All I’m saying is bodies react, and sometimes decide to change without outside factors. What worked last year may not be so great this year.
I was literally just talking about this with my wife the other day. She never had allergies in her life then the other day sneezing, watery eyes, coughing, etcetera. Out of nowhere too. I told her same shit happened to my mom. Doctors called it adult onset allergies. Shit just happens for whatever reason. The body is a weird one.
I do remember you asking me before if it tanks my e2 and while I don't notice it as much as I would if I were to over do MastP for example, I just normally assumed it would have some effect on e2 being a DHT. I have heard 2 other individuals say it tanked theirs specifically when lean lean to the point of creaky joints, but I attributed the joints issue of theirs to being too lean in general and attempting heavy loads in the gym. IMO, being super lean and heavy heavy lifting doesn't go hand in hand especially precontest lean. Injuries tend to almost be guaranteed at that point. It's interesting how we are all each differently affected by various compounds, I've even heard of others praise primo for NPP-like joint lubricating effects, while running 200mg test alongside it. Weird indeed, but I personally witness their gym performance firsthand weekly basis and I do agree, they move rather more fluidly than usual....synovial fluids output to the max it seems lol. I will keep an eye on that though as I am planing for a long primo run soon and monitor bloods throughout, I've rarely encountered e2 related issues in past whether too low or vise versa and hope it stays like that as I am fully aware it's a nightmare to deal with.
I like primo as it a safer AAS and is good for building muscle without sides. You have to run longer and at a good dose but if you do it right you can add some muscle and keep 95% of the gains. I did one cycle and gained 10lbs but also lost bodyfat but it was 18weeks with that cycle. Low test no more then 300mgs unless the primo and at the time used mast dropped E2 to low. I prefer it be suse I am older and don't like messing with my health. I am more concerned about cardiovascular problems due to use now then 10nyeara ago.
Primo is a great compound just very expensive. You must cycle it for a longer time and at higher doses for the best effect. I find primo best used when either contest prepping (combined with other compounds) or as a nice fun cycle (used alone with some test). The nice fun cycle is a feel good slow progress cycle that you get good results from but nothing drastic
Amazing compound unrivaled when it comes to overall feeling best while on cycle. It's a slow starter, but once it gets going...it is mind blowing. Get as lean as you possibly can naturally before considering primo, otherwise you are wasting your $ and time. Pharma grade is amazing, but oil volume ends up being too much per inject. Much prefer the 200mg version, a mixture of both works well and thins out the thick pharma castor oil which takes some time to push through 25g, unfortunately it's against the site rules to mention brands on forum. It's not hard to find quality primo with some due diligence in choosing source. Good luck
bizownerPrimo is an excellent compound, but it comes at a hefty price. To get the most out of it, you should use it for an extended period of time and at higher doses.
RockyPiterthank you all for your feedback
Excellent when ran correctly. Glad labs are now doing 200mg instead of the old 100mg. Much better than pinning a bunch of oil each week. I usually do well with 1:1 with test.
Lifted-presence92Primo is PRIMO when it comes to anabolics.
Definition: of top quality or importance
The one and only if you man manage oil volume, Pip and pinning frequency.
Price as well
Use it right and you will be rewarded. Diet needs to be meticulous with this compound which most people are too lazy to do and then complain it is bunk when they don't put on 15lbs during cycle.
Two words, very underrated.
Generally lots of mistakes made running primo, often due to cost. Needs to be run big and long, which makes it expensive. Personally I’m a big fan.
That’s what she said
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Yep. Me too. TRT dose test, high dose primo is where it shines best IMO. Go too high with test and you don't generally see primos true potential. If one starts primo with highish % body fat...it's a waste of time/money and will end up very disappointed lol. Primo is expensive for a reason. It's ggreeaaat
One thing I have noticed as I get older is that primo is starting to tank my estro. Never had that effect on me before. I always used to run a TRT type dose with it and was just fine, but this last cycle running 250-300mg of test it ended up tanking my estro. I also noticed that when my bodyfat starts to get real low like around 6% or so, my estro starts to drop like a rock also while using it. The leaner I get on it the more test I have to use to balance estro or I really feel like a shit storm. which is weird.
Lots of data to back up dropping estro on primo. Surprised it’s as significant as that for you Makwa, but as Drexel states below, bodies react differently and certainly our age has an impact too. I am currently running primo with 400mg of test weekly. Will keep an eye on with numbers out of curiosity/ research purposes.
I bumped test up another 100mg and the estro issue was resolved but then I added some tren in and then that kicked my ass. I have talked to a couple of other guys now about it and they essentially need to run primo 1:1 with test to keep estro at tolerable level. I always used to recommend a TRT type dose with pimo but now I think I need to revise that to run just enough test to keep estro levels happy. Run test as low as possible.
This is not a troll comment, so please don’t take it as such. I used to have the most outrageous allergy to cat hair, I could post a funny pic as I was a child, it wouldn’t be be recognizable, was never posted online. But I outgrew it. My wife wanted a cat, we have one. Bodies change, there’s things that science can’t explain. Sometimes you have to go with what’s working, wether it be for the past six months or the past six minutes. All I’m saying is bodies react, and sometimes decide to change without outside factors. What worked last year may not be so great this year.
I was literally just talking about this with my wife the other day. She never had allergies in her life then the other day sneezing, watery eyes, coughing, etcetera. Out of nowhere too. I told her same shit happened to my mom. Doctors called it adult onset allergies. Shit just happens for whatever reason. The body is a weird one.
Another fun part of aging…..When does the good stuff start happening?
I do remember you asking me before if it tanks my e2 and while I don't notice it as much as I would if I were to over do MastP for example, I just normally assumed it would have some effect on e2 being a DHT. I have heard 2 other individuals say it tanked theirs specifically when lean lean to the point of creaky joints, but I attributed the joints issue of theirs to being too lean in general and attempting heavy loads in the gym. IMO, being super lean and heavy heavy lifting doesn't go hand in hand especially precontest lean. Injuries tend to almost be guaranteed at that point. It's interesting how we are all each differently affected by various compounds, I've even heard of others praise primo for NPP-like joint lubricating effects, while running 200mg test alongside it. Weird indeed, but I personally witness their gym performance firsthand weekly basis and I do agree, they move rather more fluidly than usual....synovial fluids output to the max it seems lol. I will keep an eye on that though as I am planing for a long primo run soon and monitor bloods throughout, I've rarely encountered e2 related issues in past whether too low or vise versa and hope it stays like that as I am fully aware it's a nightmare to deal with.
TricepatopsI like primo as it a safer AAS and is good for building muscle without sides. You have to run longer and at a good dose but if you do it right you can add some muscle and keep 95% of the gains. I did one cycle and gained 10lbs but also lost bodyfat but it was 18weeks with that cycle. Low test no more then 300mgs unless the primo and at the time used mast dropped E2 to low. I prefer it be suse I am older and don't like messing with my health. I am more concerned about cardiovascular problems due to use now then 10nyeara ago.
No source talk or brand names on forums.
Primo is a great compound just very expensive. You must cycle it for a longer time and at higher doses for the best effect. I find primo best used when either contest prepping (combined with other compounds) or as a nice fun cycle (used alone with some test). The nice fun cycle is a feel good slow progress cycle that you get good results from but nothing drastic
Amazing compound unrivaled when it comes to overall feeling best while on cycle. It's a slow starter, but once it gets going...it is mind blowing. Get as lean as you possibly can naturally before considering primo, otherwise you are wasting your $ and time. Pharma grade is amazing, but oil volume ends up being too much per inject. Much prefer the 200mg version, a mixture of both works well and thins out the thick pharma castor oil which takes some time to push through 25g, unfortunately it's against the site rules to mention brands on forum. It's not hard to find quality primo with some due diligence in choosing source. Good luck