Just trying to get through the noise
It seems like every time I read a couple posts on people’s cycle experience elsewhere or watch a couple YouTube videos about the topic, I get 15 different ideas about what to do for my next round. I’m not new to weightlifting, I’m just new to the world of PEDs so all the “professional opinions” get to be a little contradicting. I understand they are just opinions and your personal response to whatever you put in your body is unique to you but to cut through all the noise, I would like some advice on what fitness/bodybuilding PED coach people are listening to whether it’s a podcast or a YouTube channel or whatever outlet. I have been on TRT for 3 years and I’ve done a few Test only cycles and just finished a decent maintenance or recovery phase and I’m ready to move into my next cycle. I have purchased enough Primo and Eq and Npp and Tren to run either of them with test. It just seems like I do the research on one compound and convince myself it’s the right choice, then after about a week of channel surfing, I am completely sold on a different approach. At the moment, I’m now sold on just running a cycle of test and primo and picking up some Hgh for the long run. I’m new to eroids and have really found a lot more helpful information here in the forums then anywhere else I’ve looked. It’s a great community and resource.
39 y/o
6’2” 195lb
12-15% body fat currently
P/P/L 6 days a week
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StrongZoeMYeah, the amount of info out there can be overwhelming! Glad you're finding some clarity here. Test and Primo with HGH sounds like a solid plan.
If you’re going to add in primo or eq keep in mind the ratio as it can lower e2 substantially for some people. I’d do a 1:1 ratio with either at most, I wouldn’t run a higher eq or primo dose than my test, if anything I like it 2:1 test personally. That’s just my 2 cents
That’s a solid plan. I’ll get settled into a 2:1 ratio, pull blood and go up from there. I’m thinking primo over EQ in hopes of avoiding too many sides. I’m understanding from other peoples experience managing an EQ cycle can get a little more tricky. Primo seems pretty straight forward.
If you really want to add another compound and aren’t satisfied with just test at 500ish mgs then pick 1 of the drugs you bought. You only add 1 new drug at a time as randomdude said so you can see how you react to it and if you get any sides you didn’t get with test you’ll know it’s the new drug. If health is a priority I’d go with primo. EQ would be my 2nd choice and NPP third. Tren is a much more advanced compound that should be reserved for when you have a lot more experience. Or never, id recommend not running it.
I like that. Keep it simple. I guess I like the primo idea so much because it will let me run the test a little higher. Previously I’ve run 500mgs test and had good results without really any issues. I didnt get blood work done while running it though so I really don’t have a clue if my e2 was out of range (I felt pretty normal). That’s definitely something I'm doing moving forward. So my plan is to get up to 500test/200 or 300primo, let that run for a couple weeks, get bloodwork and adjust from there. I guess ideally the goal would be to see how much test I can actually run before things go sideways instead of trying to add new drugs into the mix. Feels like with that combo I won’t be chasing all these different blood markers and side effects.
Bloodwork should be done in week 6. Any sooner and the results won’t be accurate,
Alright. I’ll get to it. Appreciate the responses.
Add a new compound one at a time and see how you react to it. There is no right compounds but there are the right compounds for you. Don’t over think it.
Sometimes you just gotta feel the noise
I would buy that T-shirt. Sometimes you just gotta feel the noise
Hahahaha hell yeah
Do what works for you perfect example some ppl love mast some ppl love primo...
In all honestly, just keep your cycles simple. You have done test only cycles and you have NPP and Primo. There is your next cycle, do Test, NPP, and Primo and you will see changes big time as long as you keep diet in check and workout almost everyday. You can also add in HGH anytime as it is not a steroid so run it whenever alone or on a cycle.
I know it’s blood work dependent but whats your opinion on a good test/primo/npp ratio? I have enough primo to run 400mgs a week for about 16 weeks. That seems to be my limiting supply.
Well Primo takes a while to kick in so you will want to run it for a while, I would do at least 12 weeks. It depends on what you want to achieve. You should run higher Test than NPP but you can run Primo higher than test.
I don't know your experience or what cycles you have ran but if you are a beginner a suggestion would be 300mg test, 300mg Primo, 200mg NPP.
For me with Deca/NPP the lower amount keeps the side effects down.
NPP(nandrolone phenyl-propionate) has a half life of 2 to 3 days so it will need to be injected more frequently. I would also break up the test and primo to pin at least twice a week keeps levels more steady. You also need to have an Ai for estrogen on hand and Caber just in case your prolactin increases.
If you’ve ran a couple of test only cycles and are ready to add another compound your suggestion of primo and hgh is a good one. You’re probably aware of having injection volume go up quite a bit with primo added to test. Hgh as you will likely be aware needs a good amount of time to do its magic. Don’t expect to see much for 3 months and ideally stock up enough so you can run for 6 months or longer. Titrate up slowly on the growth to avoid sides.