Injectable Dbol with Test P & NPP Cycle
Curious to know everyone’s thoughts on taking injectable Dbol for the last 4 weeks of a 12 week cycle. I’m currently taking Test Prop 300mg Per Week And NPP 250mg Per Week. Also taking Cialis 5mg ED. I’m right here at the 8th week of cycle. Not my first Cycle. (Didn’t really know what I was doing the first time around stacking other AAS with Testosterone.) Haven’t had any real side effects other than maybe a touch of anxiety on some days. Blood Pressure has been good. Eating more and training has been more intense. Not perfect so I’m sure I could always improve my diet, training & sleep. Goal is to bulk up and add size. Ive always been more on the lean side. I’m 5’ 11” & My weight usually stays around 165lbs. Would like to get to 175 - 180. Not expecting to do that in 12 weeks or anything. Just working towards that. I dabbled with Dbol In the very beginning of getting into PED’s. Oral & Injectable (Not at the same time) I was taking 20 or 25mgs/Day oral. Around the same, 30mg EOD with Injectable. When taking the Injectable Dbol my blood pressure & Estrogen was running a little high. Like I said, I had no clue wtf I was doing and had no AI or anything to help control blood pressure. Not sure if it was from the dose being to high or if I should have been taking ED to help with estrogen conversion. I’m now currently taking Lisinopril 10mg daily. 1mg Anastrozole/week. Fish oil, Beet Root, CoQ10, magnesium, potassium and zinc daily. Apologize if any of this was off topic a little. Just trying to give as much info as possible.
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Bro when you get done with this cycle I'd stay off for a while. See what you can do with diet only or at least don't use more than 500mg test e or c and learn diet. Plenty of ideas to follow on YouTube.
Do you ever trained naturally or have you used gear for training the whole time?
Nah, about the last year I started messing with the gear. I literally listed everything I have taken in this one post basically. I’m looking for any advice your willing to give though?? I know I’m far from being an expert at all this. That’s why I’m here. To learn as much as I can.
If you are not putting on 15lbs with a cycle then you diet is 100% shit. Sorry for being so blunt, but is true. Given your starting stats, 15lbs should be easy in 4 months without any AAS. You need to start tracking those cals and macros or you are just pissing in the wind. You wlll be surprised how your body actually changes once you start tracking macs and cals and hitting your daily goals.
What would you recommend for doses? I guess I should have added that I was going with such low dose to try and avoid any side affects & to see how I would react to NPP as well. I know I have a lot to learn. From everyone’s responses, I clearly need to shut up and eat more.
I definitely agree that I should be eating more. Without a doubt. I have put on some weight. When I started, I was 155 at most. If I weigh myself at the end of the day I’m right at 170-173. I can take all the advice your willing to give.
Bro I think your dosages are fine, especially with that injectable dbol at 50mgs a day .it doesn't kill appetite and its in your system 24/7.
My next cycle I plan on doing 350mgs test p
700mgs npp
50mgs injectable dbol sprinkled with some anavar on it
How is is 24/7 ? Im missing something?
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Metabolism Hepatic
Elimination half-life 3–6 hours
Excretion Urine
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Have you taken NPP before? Is it just preference to take so much more NPP than Test P? Curious to hear your experience with it. I see so much mixed info.
Oh and mast e for me works as a good estrogen control
The way this reads is its all been done back to front really, using the Dbol Inject wrong and choosing the wrong esters and doses for a mass gaining cycle. First off 300mg Test prop is useless when it comes to bulking - to bulk on Prop you need to run a good whack of it daily which can be costly, You would be much better going for 500mg Test E split into 2 or 3 injections over the week. 250mg NPP is also too low, 400mg/wk would be much better split and injected on the same days as the Test E. Dianabol inject works the best when injected ED at either 30 or 40mg depending on your experience level with the compound and what you can tolerate. It operates much differently to the tabs and builds over time - its quite like an ester in between Acetate & Prop. It doesn't hit hard like tabs and won't destroy your stomach lining so it doesn't affect appetite and can be run longer. You are best going for 8 to 10 weeks with it and take liver supps at the same time such as TUDCA. Don't worry about bro science stating its twice as effective/strong as the oral version because in reality that isn't true. If you were to start all of this over again follow what I have given you here and you will gain much more weight & strength compared to how you have been doing things
Thank you. I’m literally just new to the whole thing. That’s what i come here for was some advice. I had no real plans on taking the Dianabol. I’ve just been seeing people talking about taking at the end of cycle as some kind of finisher. People are saying the doses are to low, but I just didn’t want to jump in, taking a gram of gear without having taken Npp. Should I up my dose of Test???
Do you think lower test and a higher npp dosage is better than the other way around?
I'd listen to press.
Thank you man. So is 300mg of TEST P VS 300mg of Test E same thing? I was probably misinformed but I read that 300mg of Test P was more potent I guess, than 300mg of Test E? Or is it same thing and I’m just naive for believing that?
The whole more potent debate is kind of tit for tat. Is test p more potent than e, technically yes since there is more test present in P vs E due to ester weight. People say P is more potent but it just hits quicker which gives that illusion but in all reality it is not more potent in terms of real world results, just going to take longer with E. Both require different protocols so it just depends on what protocol you want to use and they will both give effective results in the end.