+ 1 First Cycle layout
Tp preface I am not starting a cycle just yet just wanted some input. I am fortunate to have my doctor be on board with helping monitor my bloods. I recently did blood work and Test is at 681Ng/Dl(I am on a caloric deficit so I imagine that impacts test levels
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Stats:
27
6'2
215
Bf~18%(will get this lower before I start)
Lifting experience 6 years(was runner in hs)
Bloods done before hand with doc review of bio markers before starting cycle.
Cycle:Test E 300mg/12 weeks 1 inject Monday night/thursday night a week in ventglute rotating inject sites weekly. By week 4 getting bloods done and having doc review to make sure bio markers are g2g and to obviously monitor estrogen and see what my test is looking like. If needed have Aromasin on hand. I know from research it is trial and error to find the correct dosage on this but I would start with 6.25 ed and titrate up if needed. 3 weeks after last test E pin I will run weeks1-2 aromasin 6.25ed, weeks 1-2 nolvadex 40mg everyday, weeks 1-2 100 clomid everyday,weeks 3-4 nolvadex 20mg everyday, weeks 3-4 50 clomid everyday. I would have extra test, extra AI and Extra Serms on hand just in case. Also get bloods done 4 weeks after cycle as well.
Macros 3000cals/Day(will slowly increase as I go wanted to see if these macros made sense)
p-250
c-400
f-60
on cycle supplements:
Tongkat Ali (this shit works idc what anyone says lol)
fish oil
multi
DIM supplement
Ashwaganda
Vitamin D3/K2 5000iu/daily
Zinc
Magnesium
Garlic
Glutathione
Tudca
COq10
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Not_A_LukeI would bump the test to 500. take advantage of those virgin receptors. The first cycle is always pure magic. Good luck and have fun!
that's bro science
Not_A_Lukemaybe. but trt is prescribed @ 200mg/week. just 100mg more... sure the difference will be noticeable but not dramatic.
There’s been studies done on 300mg per week. I’m also doing 300mg as a means to see how my body reacts and then I can just increase it as I go. If that makes sense. I’d rather start at lowest effective dose and then go up as needed rather than start at 500mgs and deal with the potential sides.
Not_A_LukeThat makes sense. best of luck bro!
This seems like a great first cycle with tons of research behind it so good job! My only concern would be the calories. Based on your stats, I would add in more calories (slight surplus and hope to recomp). However, based on how many calories you burn this could be different.
So im going to cut down to 200 ballpark before I start to get a bit leaner to see where im at. Ill have to adjust the calories accordingly from my bmr on that.
And thanks! I cheated a bit and talked to my doctor(who is a close family friend) who is close with a doc who is close with an Endo for some advice. I read a lot in the forum also.
First cycle will allow for a lot of recomp effects. I recommend getting lower on bf but not worrying about weight as much. I prefer simple cycles when i am around 12% so I can get bigger and a bit leaner
I hope I respond well to It honestly with proper diet and training
Do you already have the Nolva and Clomid on hand? I'd increase the calories to get the most out of the cycle and add Creatine to the supplements.
I have no purchased any of the compounds yet including test. How much would you increase to? 3500?
Take advantage of the increased nutrient partitioning of AAS and start at 1000 above TDEE or go with a cyclic bulking approach. Most cycles fail because people don't eat enough.
macros:250/400/60.... do you recommend upping the carbs protein or both?
Bare minimum for protein should be 1.5g/lb. Adjust carbs/fat to then match calorie goal.
Thank god I love meat(no homo)
Alright then, I just said it because you should never start a cycle without an ai on deck in case anything goes wrong and the pct too. I obviously don't know your activity level and metabolism so I can't tell you an exact number, but at least add 500 to your normal maintenance.
RustyhookerFinding his calorie numbers would be a smart plan!
Gents! given activity level my caloric maintenance is 3000. Was going to slowly increase from there! And Tab absolutely. I actually was going to over buy on how much I need on test, AI and the pct.
Rustyhooker1000 clomid? Type error.
Looks like a good 300mg cycle. My first was 300 and enjoyed it. Watch for aro on pct if your week 4 bloods are decent so youre not crashing estrogen. Sore joints etc.
would you so on average running this amount of test weekly I would run into alot of aromatization? I know everyone reacts differently but I would imagine running the lower dose will limit the risk.
RustyhookerLower would have lower e2 conversion. Unless you find youre a heavy converter. I liked that dose for my first few years actually. I added an oral in after a couple simple 300mg cycles. Its really down to calories and gym output. Gear only repairs and speeds recovery.
100*** sorry!! and honestly when I do eventually run it I want to start at lowest effective dose for supra physiological test levels. Rather than starting at 500mgs.
And will do!