posted Thu, 02/10/2022 - 00:58
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Hey brothers,
I was wanting some feedback from some of the other vets here or anyone who has knowledge and experience with the peptides above. Specifically with an injury to shoulder or similar and which of the peptides helped you the most.
Feel free to share your story if you want. Thanks for the info in advance!
Hulk
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I have delt with a bad rotator cuff for years. TB-500 subcute injections in the shoulder that's bothering me for about a month seems to almost cure it for a few years for me. I've used it for golfer and tennis elbow too. Quality stuff. I have some cjc now, just havent run it yet. Been out of things for a bit. Trying to find the best hgh source right now.
I coupled some TB-500, BPC-157 along side some low dose GH after having surgery placing screw placed in my foot for proper healing. It healed over a month sooner after having the same surgery on my other foot two years prior.
bighulk3012Nice! I like to hear stuff like that!
My ortho doc was slightly impressed.
what was your dosage and pinning schedule? Im very interested
take the whole compound, aka HGH..not skimmed parts that placebo work, stuff works in sinergy not alone..get my point?
Imo ur better with just deca/NPP than parts of GH alone..hell even tren stimulates more IGF-1 production that those "peptides", take the whole HGH not just parts, but then again this is just my 2 cents from my personal experience.
bighulk3012Lol deca and npp don’t do anything but retain water which helps “lubricate the joints” as some say. It’s not gonna help heal me lol. I’m taking real hgh no fragment or bs so IGF-1 levels are good, plus I have legit IGF-1 on the way as well. Peptides do work for healing and speeding up recovery, I’ve read and heard too many stories on it.
TricepatopsWaste of money IMO. Never know the purity and the price to the results is not worth it. Better off getting IGF. Cheaper really. You need to run that stuff for like 6 weeks min. To get full benefit. Also depends on injury if it is like minor arthritis or some injury Tylenol can help them thsoe might help. I have tried them for minor tears in shoulder and all I did was waste money didn't help.
bighulk3012The place I deal with I have no doubt in the purity. It’s a minor nagging shoulder / into the clavicle area injury. I take nsaids as needed and it helps with inflammation, just trying to find something to help promote healing. I’m already on HGH and have some IGF-1 headed my way.
TricepatopsBe careful with NSAIDs they can tear your gut up quickly with continued use. If you can a little more specific to injury. Like do you have a MRI report,? That would be very helpful.
bighulk3012Yeah, I’ve been careful with Advil as best as possible. I’m getting an MRI tomorrow so I’ll know exactly what’s wrong. It doesn’t necessarily hurt bad it’s just uncomfortable at random times.
AnonI've used tons of BPC-157. 500mcg to 1,000mcgs a day. The price has gone up a lot and there's a lot of fakes out there too. The peptide game is not what it used to be.
bighulk3012Thanks for the input brother. I got a reliable source on it but I’ve heard much of what you just said lately from friends. Too many fakes. Did you like the BPC-157?
AnonLove it.
TricepatopsWhat type of injury was it? That is what people need to consider when using this. If they are trying to prevent surgery they are pissing away their money. If it is for some minor injury that rest will help it then they could try it and rest. But from my experience on shoulder with slight tears and bursitis wasting money
AnonSeveral injures. I average about 3 a year. It helps improve healing time a lot. You don't know shit btw
bighulk3012I wish I could +10 you right now man.
AnonI should elaborate. I talk about what I do but I do also train. So let's talk BPC from a lifting perspective, the majority will better understand. .YOU get injured training. It happens. A little tendinitis or un-medically diagnosed sore something. It can happen while training. If you start a strict 2x a day dosing protocol of well placed injections in that injury, it can do a lot. And one way to really see this, is a area that gets re-injured, because you been through the healing process in that joint or whatever before.
bighulk3012Makes sense. I’m definitely gonna give it a try. I’ll be honest and say I don’t have knowledge of peptides. Never once took them. Happy to hear your experience and it makes it easier for me to give it a try at that dosing schedule.
bighulk3012For myself it’s not an injury that requires surgery. I’m more so trying to speed up recovery.
TricepatopsWell it might work but like I said I didn't think it did anything at all. If it is just inflammation have you ever tried Alflutop? Heard some good things about that, look it up and see what I think.
bighulk3012Never heard of that before, it very well could be TOS because I have pins and needles feeling in my upper back also. TOS is caused by inflammation of blood vessels mainly or nerves, etc. Hoping I get answers tomorrow but i wanted to get some info on personal experiences so I was armed with info on how to proceed.
TricepatopsIf it is TOS no way in hell those peptides will help. Most TOS require surgery and it is a surgery that is long time to heal from. It is either vascular or involves nerves. Either way most cases are hard to prove as it rules out many other things they thought were wrong . Nothing will help TOS except surgery unless it is compression in the scalene muscles in the neck then lots of stretching and therapy to heal. But that isn't always a guarantee and that will require removal of some muscles in the neck if problems still persist. Also weightlifting makes TOS worse if it is compression. You can actually develop it from weightlifting in the muscles. So either some are born with an extra little rib and lifting built your muscles up to finally compress it. Therefore the rib needs to come out. Bro I really hope you don't have TOS. If you do it is go to be nuerogenic or vascular. The way you describe it unfortunately isnt right not trying to be a dick or a know it all but TOS is extremely complex and I really hope you don't have it. You will need an MRI of the brachial plexus to see if you have it. Sent you a FR. Also it could be coming from your cervical spine a pinched nerve or nerve problem from neck. If it is TOS and is nerve related IGF and HGH will make it worse.
bighulk3012He also said only 5-15% of cases need surgery that’s he’s seen. Glad I don’t have it either way.
bighulk3012It’s not TOS lol and doc said that wasn’t true what you just said. Usually he said it’s compression of blood vessels there that cause it, in most cases. They are thinking shoulder tendinitis.
TricepatopsWhat isn't true the surgery part? I guess I should have worded some things differently. Should have said about over 50% of the athletes we see have surgery and the ones that don't end up stopping what they were doing and follow a strict PT but like I said it all depends on what is causing the TOS in the first place. But 90% of cases involve the nerves and the rest are your viens being compressed or your arteries which that is rare but serious complication because you can get a blood clot anytime and have it go to lungs or brain. Blood vessels cause it about 5% of the time. Anyways glad you don't have it because most people to have any successful physical therapy have to stop lifting or the sport they are doing. Also it is one of the hardest things to diagnose. People who have been misdiagnosed with CTS and have had surgeries actually find out it is TOS because the surgery didn't work for the supposed Carpal Tunnel. If your doctor doesn't specialize in TOS then I would get a second opinion. I have seen this surgery done many times and it isn't something you would want.
Aurel7659Hi bro, nice topic. I suffered from shoulder and biceps tendonitis last year from April till November. Now, it feels like it's fully recovered.
No matter what healing protocol you're going to use, you have to be very patient and adapt your training accordingly. Because, no peptides or any supplements over the counter are miraculous, sure they're helpful but people often expect a faster recovery.
Here is the healing healing protocol I used for almost the entire period of injury :
3 x (200mcg of Ipamorelin + 200 mcg of cjc1295 no dac) per day alternating with 2-3IU of GH every other month
1mg of TB500 subcut twice per week (maybe no enough but it was too expensive otherwise...)
500mcg of BPC157 per day administered at the sites of injury
30g of collagen peptides per day
15g of glycine
some other supplements to manage inflammation and promote joint healing such as omega 3 , turmeric and so on
I can't say how much these peptides helped the repair process, nonetheless I noticed a better sleep, faster recovery between each training session and better sense of well being. Hope this helped.
Cheers
bighulk3012Thanks for the input bro. I appreciate you taking time to write all that out for me. I may just start with one and see how it affects me. I just started HGH this week and hoping it helps me as well.
SwoljaboyThis is a good thread. I’ll be waiting for some of the vets to hop on this one.
bighulk3012For sure! Good info to have.