posted Sun, 01/07/2024 - 17:27
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Can I do Test E 250mg without pct?
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I'm about to hop on my first ever cycle. The plan is to split 2 injections of test e 250mg per week, and take arimidex 1mg once daily 2 weeks in for estrogen blocking. Erythromycin 250mg per day for acne and antipsychotics to reduce my aggression. I keep reading that pct like nolvadex and clomid are a must have, but the people that recommend them take crazy steroid doses. Given that it's hard for me to find SERMS, and I'm in my 20s should I be ok without it? Will I lose my gains despite the low dose? Cheers 
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If you do a cycle and gain 5 pounds. You will lose the 5 pounds if you dont pct
The only way to keep some of your gains is to do it the right way and pct. everyone who has tried the easy route alll have been screwed. You need pct to maintain
Do not take 1mg daily of arimidex!!! Take .5mg a week!! And that’s only if you need it
Antipsychotics bro really ? I’ve been on much higher doses and didn’t need ai or have aggression. I would wait to see symptoms before you start using either one of those .
So you claim its hard to find SERMS but its not hard for you to get Test E? Is this some made up bs? You will need a PCT on Test especially in your 20's, go do some research and figure out what testosterone breaks down into. Plus if you have acne already you will need accutane and if you have anger issues, just stay away from steroids altogether.
Bro if you have borderline personality disorder steroids probably aren't for you.
Is this guy out of here already?
HI! first of all, in my opinion, at the age of 20 there is ample room for both physical and intellectual growth to be able to wait before starting a cycle.
Having said that, I seem to see that yours is more of a frantic race to achieve profits, forgetting your health first and foremost, which is equivalent to ruining your serenity if your physical and mental health may fail even for a while. ' during a possible cycle.
Having said that, I recommend you read the topics at the top of this forum to first give you an idea of what you should do:
PRE CYCLE CHECKLIST: https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner/steroids/pre-cycle-checklist
HOW TO RUN A FIRST CYCLE: https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner/steroids/how-to-run-a-first-...
Are You ready for AAS: https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner/steroids/are-you-ready-for-aas
Hey brother, thanks for reaching out.
Honestly if you have aggression issues naturally steroids probably are not for you. I think people underestimate the impact of these hormones on your brain. If you’re a very calm person naturally they can be a great device. If you’re already on the aggressive side they WILL make that worse. You’re already medicating which tells me this is something you’re struggling with so I would urge you strongly to do it naturally for another 3-5 years. Develop, grow, and focus on building a strong mindset.
If this is all accomplished and in a few years you’re off your meds and you know there’s no way you’d have trouble socially EVEN IF you took something that increased your baseline aggression, then rock on brother.
tuxYes you could, but you will likely feel like shit for a lot longer. The system that controls your body's testosterone production, uses a negative feedback loop to regulate stable testosterone levels. It works like this. Part of your brain named hypothalamus, detects the need for the human body to manufacture more Testosterone, and will release GnRH. GnRH is a hormone that signals the pituitary gland, to begin the manufacture and release of two hormones: LH and FSH. LH and FSH are two hormones that work to signal your balls, to begin production of Testosterone.
When the hypothalamus detects excess levels of Testosterone and/or Estrogen in the body, which 250mg/week is, the hypothalamus will stop its production of GnRH, and ultimately stops the production of Testosterone.
You will normally restore your Testosterone to baseline levels on its own over time with no assistance, but this can take up to 4 months. You will likely feel demotivated, low on energy, and forget about libido. In order to minimize this periode it is recommended to use PCT medications like Nolvadex or Clomid. They serve to trigger the pituitary gland to release FSH and LH hormones. Which signals your balls to start producing again, and reducing the time you feel like shit.
Also before starting your PCT you need to wait for the Testosterone to exit your body and be no longer a major factor in causing suppression. Usually this is around 4 half lives, for Testosterone Enanthate (Half life of 4.5 days) it means around 2 weeks of waiting before starting your PCT.
That is way too much. You will just kill all your Estrogen. No Estrogen really really sucks, way worse that low Testosterone. You feel life has no meaning, tired all the fucking time, dick doesn't work, feel like crying for no reason, fight over dumb shit. It is also cardioprotective and neuroprotective, so you want it to be in a healthy range.
Just take 1mg Arimidex when you feeling sides like acne, water retention, high blood pressure, itchy nipples. Log the date you take Arimidex, do that for a few weeks until you have found a pattern. I for example don't even need an Estrogen blocker under 500mg/week.
You could also play around with how often you inject. This might also reduce the chance or amount of Estrogen blockers you need.
As my 5yr old daughter would say
antipsychotics to reduce my aggression
Sounds very made up.
That antipsychotic he is on is no joke. It prescribed to people with no psych issues for sleep because it’s so sedating. I’ve never taken anything that strong before. 25mgs and within an hour you can’t move if your still awake. So whenever I meet someone that’s supposed to take that shit I’m the MORNING , I know they are certified insane lol. So it prob does help with aggression, can’t be aggressive if your halfway in a coma lmao
Jesus - Is it like Sarah Conner in the Hospital but without the need for wrist restraints??! Lmfao
Yes lol they are pharmaceutical handcuffs lol but I will say ha not totally insane because they give them like 600-900 mgs so the fact he gets 25 means he’s at least still on this planet
Garbage1234I have a diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder. The medication I referred to is Quetiapine, it has definitely helped with my mood over the past couple months. In case you're wondering, it's 25mg per day or when required.
Stay off any antibiotics until needed for serious infection, this will lead to a huge problem down the road for you when they’re really needed but no longer work for you, or others like me as you may have made that strain of bacteria drug resistant. And I’m curious of the particular antipsychotic medication? Adjusting your hormone levels can really throw things off.
Garbage1234Also when would you say I should take the antibiotics in terms of symptoms?
Garbage1234The antipsychotic is called quetiapine. I've been on it for several months and it was really good for my Borderline Personality Disorder. I guess it could help somehow with roid rage too. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Hey man this is a tough site if you don't have thick skin, what I mean by that is you're going to get a lot of honest answers and good advice. You should probably get your testosterone checked beforehand and you would be surprised at how high it actually is at your age. It might even be at a number where guys that do trt try to get to and have great results. At your age you should focus on eating as good as you can, figuring out your Macros and trying to learn how to eat properly to get great results. I would say try and max out what you can do naturally and then when you hit a certain look,size and weight that you like where you feel you have maxed out then consider taking the route you're taking now. As far as your planned cycle goes you really won't know if you need the Arimidex or not until you see what 250 mg does to your blood work. If you're estrogen goes High then you may need a wee bit of Arimidex but nothing even close to 1 mg a day. I would say do a ton of research before you do anything. Read all of the beginner posts on here, the dieting posts the first cycle posts Etc. Remember it's a marathon not a Sprint. In my opinion nutrition is like 85% of the whole thing you need to learn how to food shop, weigh your food and time your meals properly among other things which is only a small piece of the nutrition part. I know this is a long response but I would just try and perfect everything before I add in the gear
Garbage1234What's considered a high estrogen on the bloodwork sheet? And is there certain numbers or sections I should watch out for on it?
When you get your blood work done there will be a range. If you are out of range it will say so on the blood work.
Bro why do you feel the need for gear at 20?
Just eat as much as possible and train hard and your natural test will do the rest.
These guys don't do that anymore. It's too hard @robb it has just become too hard to consume more calories and lift more weight. Run test at 20-25 or younger and be so happy they got to 180-190
I've said sarcastically that the kids buy a cycle with their new gym membership.
Think it's actually become a reality.
Haha yeah. Take steroids until they are sterile only to look like they could have had they just ate and trained hard. Stoopid dumb
The Sam Sulek effect Lol
Too much tiktok and instagram.
It's more like a knock to the head as baby's.
I keep meaning to check him out, he's built up a bit of a profile for himself recently on S Media.
Andrew jacked is my favourite right now, Nathan de ASHA fucked any chance of getting into the states ever again so it's Jacked for now. He definitely could win the next O. No one has had aesthetics like him since flex wheeler without the pointy elbows.
I digrest somewhat their lol.
I kept seeing Sam in my youtube suggestions to the right when I was watching my usual videos, I kept seeing this pretty big guy with the curly hair crammed under the hat so eventually gave in and watched one of his videos. I was ready to say what a wanker expecting to see some jumped up weak kid - It was totally the opposite mate lol He's a young, chilled out laid back normal guy who's quite soothing to watch when he talks. Then he starts lifting and ..... he is absolutely strong as fuck!! I just cannot figure out how he lifts what he does because as far as I know he's only been lifting for 3 years and he doesn't come from a strength background, he isn't mega heavy or thick set PLUS he has a great broad physique. So Yeah - THE BASTARDS GOT IT ALL!!! Ohh and he must be earning about 1/2 Million a month on youtube at 21 years old. Life could be worse ...
Garbage1234Even I know that if I hop on gear, looking like sam sulek is a stupid goal for me to hit honestly. That guy is proper juiced up and I don't plan on doing something like that at the moment.
He says hes been lifting for 5 years.
Yeah and also that anton swl kid wiining pro card at 19
Where to begin. 1mg of adex daily is way too much. Most people take 0.25mg twice a week. It’s usually easiest to just take it when you do your shot. Are you already on antipsychotics? I wouldn’t start taking them just because you’re running test. And how long do you plan on taking test? PCT is always good to do after running a cycle. You’re literally posting on the best forum to find anything you may need AAS related. almost every source carries PCT products. How old are you? 21? 29? Have you ever gotten bloodwork to see where your natural levels are at? Are you training now? And if so, how long? Sounds like you need to do a lot more research before putting anything in your body.
Garbage1234For arimidex, the pills are in 1mg capsules, so I can't break it apart into smaller pieces. I was on antipsychotics way before I made my order, so I guess maybe it'll benefit too once I'm on the cycle. My plan for taking test is until the vial finishes, which is 10ml and 250mg/ml. The source I use is the only one I trust, but they only have arimidex, otherwise I would have to risk going international which is risky in australia. I'm 20, and plan on getting bloodwork done before I touch it. I trained 3-5 times a day and have been doing it for 2 years now. What would you recommend base don this?
You’re too young to be starting anything, but I didn’t listen at 20 either, and I’d rather at least see you do it the right way. The capsules can be opened. Open it and divide the powder into 4 even piles. Take one pile with your shot twice a week. I usually do Monday and Thursday with longer esters like cypionate. And it’s better to be completely honest so people with experience can know how to help you. Definitely get bloodwork first. I highly doubt your testosterone is low but at least we’ll know where you’re at. Training 3-5 times a day sounds like BS to me. Did you mean 3-5 days a week? That’s more realistic.
Garbage12343-5 times a week I meant. My bad. Also no my testosterone isn't low based on my puberty faze, but I have done natural bulking before, and I experienced some ugly stretch marks, acne, hair loss, and a bunch of stuff. Based on this, I can say that my genetics are horrible for bulking. I am also aware that the cycle will 100% worsen them, but I'd rather be on gear and produce muscle mass than rely on my own body's test, provided that I have the right medication, bloodwork, training, diet, and workout. Who knows what health complications I'll develop, but I'd rather invest in fitness which has been a life saver for me. Appreciate the input.
Can you imagine the amount of guy's needing TRT at 30 yrs old in 5 to 10 years time because of the amount of them destroying their Balls so young nowadays?!
Endocrine system = Obliterated
For sure bro. Unfortunately, I was one of those idiots in my early twenties. I’ve somehow managed to produce three healthy children since then, but the last time I was off everything and got my levels checked, my total T was like 150 - a direct result of not listening to older folks who told me to wait!
Bro, please never visit the site again that helped you come up with this plan. You could und up in the hospital taking that much Arimadex. Also, 500mg of Test is a little too much for a first cycle.
Please read this link
https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner/steroids/how-to-run-a-first-...
Garbage1234I watched Greg Doucette's vid, and I believe he said 250mg per week. From my understanding, that means I have to inject 125mg per injection to total 250 per week, if I do it twice a week. As for arimidex, the pills are in 1mg capsules, so I can't break it apart into smaller pieces. Are you saying take 1 pill for the entire week? That forum mentions clomid and nolvadex, which I mentioned I don't have access to yet, and by that I mean the supplier I use doesn't have them and I don't wanna risk international shipping. cheers.
JMo97If you can’t break the Arimadex in half, take one pill on the first pin of each week. You should be ok, but never by Arimadex in capsule form again. The guy Jake is right, watch what you read or hear online. This is the best forum to learn how to do everything correctly. Some guys may come off harsh, but it’s only because they care