posted Thu, 03/07/2024 - 05:01
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First cycle with Test E, Deca, and EQ
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I'm in my 20s, 170lbs, 5"9 tall, and BF around 15ish.
I'm about to run my first ever cycle with Test E, Deca, and EQ because I was recommended by my supplier.
Would you have any advice for me with regard to PCT, supplements, etc.?
Thanks for your help!
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Seriously? I'm not one to drag down others, or belittle. The last thing I ever want to do is be one of the "guys" that bust balls to newbies trying to get their feet wet and step into the world of Anabolics/PEDS/or any other forms of enhancement for whatever the reason or goals that individual may have or want to achieve. However, you need to so more research. I myself researched for well over 3-4 years before I dove into the realm of PEDs. That being said, I also was tested 3 consecutive times, months apart and had an average Test level of 278ng/dl. I chose to research further into TRT. I then made the decision to utilize TRT for the rest of my life and I couldn't be more content with that decision. The massive difference it made in ALL aspects of my life were astounding to say the least. I never would have realized that I was so deficient beforehand, or even for how long. My quality of life dramatically has improved and 5 years later, I still reap the benefits. Regular morning wood, higher sex drive, aggression and passion for life, ambition, better mood, the list goes on and on... As far as your first cycle goes, it's a bigger decision than you may think. At the same time, plenty of young men are going to do what they will. You will ultimately choose what you feel is the decision you want to make no matter what others may say. All I intend to do, is steer you in a better direction.
1) Do more research.
2) Know about (Blast and Cruise) vs (Cycle and PCT)
3) Highly suggest as others have as well to run Test only (any ester) for your 1st cycle 400-600mg/week would be ideal to see how you body responds. You will reap no more benefit by adding other compounds and more than likely risk more side effects than anything by trying to do so. You can expect 12-18lb weight gain (much of that actual muscle tissue) on a simple Test only cycle like this for your first run.
4) Have bloods drawn. The more bloods you can afford to draw, the better educated you will be about your body chemistry and it will pay dividends in the long run. Should at least run bloods prior to cycle(this is for baseline health metrics and hormone levels), midway to 3/4 way through cycle to see how body is responding to the Testosterone (this to see how you're responding and how well health markers are holding up and overall how your body is responding to the compound; in this case Testosterone), and once again either after you've gone back down to a TRT dose for more than 4-5 weeks or after you've finished a proper PCT protocol of 3-4 weeks depending on protocol used (this is to see how levels have recovered and how health metrics are doing after cycle). These tests will tell you more information than anyone on this board can about the way you will react to ANY compounds or cycles.
*Take all advice with a grain of salt. There are plenty of vets and gurus on here that can help you. Use them. Hope this helps. Good luck on your journey and remember the long haul. This is marathon, not a race. We want to remain as healthy as possible, even when weighing risk vs reward, there are many things we can do to mitigate certain issues and side effects. Look into "prophylactics" as they will help to keep your body healthy throughout your endeavors.
Great, thorough advice mate.
I genuinely appreciate your advice man!
Good thing you came on here and asked. Test only first cycle is def the way to go.
Your Avatar always makes me chuckle bud lol
Thanks. When I seen it, it was an immediate decision. Lol..... Def need to work on my cardio.
I thought Cardio was sitting down to perch on the toilet?
Bro your a young boy.
YET Another one of these cycle….
No No No to the 3 compound First cycle
We always run Test E by itself initially, usually at 500mg per week to see how we handle that first and learn how to deal with any complications it throws at us. If you throw EQ and Deca in there also you will potentially have all sorts of sides to deal with including having to donate Blood during the cycle if you haematocrit rises too high.
First cycle needs to be Test E/C only. See what happens and how it affects you, labs, and get down solid dosages, and PCT. Lots of info here, just research.
Save the Deca and EQ for later, those are 2 entirely different animals, that require different care. Stacking is for later, you need to start in the petting zoo first. And don’t be surprised when the guys ask you for more training/diet details too.
Exactly...
Should I stack Test E with any orals? Or is it already good on its own?
No orals yet, those are the harshest. And everything Frank said. This is a life marathon, not a sprint.
Already good on its own. Sure, you can stack whatever you want. Most orals are going to just cause more strain on the liver and possibly give you heartburn, loss of appetite, more risk of gyno, etc. Most everyone will tell you that Testosterone alone for a first cycle is MORE than plenty. If your diet and training are on point, you should be able to transform quite well and make a big leap in progress whatever your goals may be. And... with MINIMAL side effects if any. Trust in the process and the advice being given.
What did his first line say?
My doctor gave me Test C, and I’m thankful for that. I’m currently running 250mg twice a week. Stacked with 200mg of Deca and 125mg Mast E. The Test C was my first “cycle” after 6-8 months I jumped to Deca and Mast. Running it for 20 weeks or more. Depending on how I feel.
Google what’s the difference between Test E and Test C
Advice would be drop everything except test, sounds like your supplier wants money. 500mg test e or c a week for 12 weeks is more than enough, get bloodwork done first to establish a baseline then again at 6 weeks, it'll be important to dial in your AI dose such as arimidex or aromasin with the blood work. Then pct starts 2-3 weeks after last injection. 4 weeks of pct week 1&2 clomid 100mg a day and Nolvadex 40mg a day, week 3&4 clomid 50mg a day and Nolvadex 20mg a day.
Thanks a lot!
Advice would be this isn’t an appropriate first cycle. Wouldn’t advise using multiple compounds as you’ll have no idea what did what to you. Lots of info on eroids, have a search around the site on beginner cycles. Will give you some better ideas where to start.