First Cycle Questions
This is tangential to my other thread, so I figured I would make a new one. I haven't committed to anything yet, just in the information gathering phase.
I looks like the consensus is to just run Test, AI, keep good diet and exercise routine, then do PCT.
So questions...
1) Test E vs Test C: From what I can tell most people say there is no difference, but E is usually recommended. Is dosing different at all?
1.A) Dosing: Generally consensus seems to be 500mg (250mg 2x weekly). Is going lower not worth it?
2) Cycle length: Everything seems to say 12-14 weeks but this seems long to me giving what we are discussing. Sure its not magic, but it is potent. I was originally thinking 6 weeks.
3) Aromasin v Arimidex: Sticky says one uses say the other. Whats the thinking?
4) PCT: Tamoxifen vs Clomid. Both?
5) HCG: Yay or nay, if yay how do you reconstitute (or can you source this in liquid form already?)
Extras:
1) Bloodwork: Is there a way to do this that isn't "Hey Doc, I am doing (or planning to do) performance enhancing drugs of the internet, can you make sure I am not fugged up?" I am struggling to get a primary care to just check hormone levels and such. This poster https://www.eroids.com/forums/newbie-corner/beginners-cycles/just-comple... had a real nice lab report that looks like something third party rather than from a doctor but what do I know
2) Injection Equipment: Buy needles of Amazon feels sketchier then the AAS themselves. Recommendations? Or is that too bold to ask here?
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First cycle 10-12 weeks.
Test cyp 2x/wk 500mg total
No a.i. (unless you have problems) probably a little proviron 50-75mg will help estro and make the test work better.
Use hcg/clomid/Nov as your pct.
Gpzmedlab.com for syringes
Walkinlab.com blood test
1) Personally, I much prefer test C over test E as levels stay consistent with twice a week pinning as Cyp is a slightly longer ester.
2) I have seen the most results from 12-16 week cycles as test C or E takes 2-3 weeks to truly show their true colors.
3) AI’s are extremely toxic to the body, and with a test only cycle, I couldn’t see you needing one. Personally, I always go with tamoxifen over AI’s as estrogen is needed to be anabolic, and tamoxifen can help mitigate some of the sides of high estro.
4) For PCT, I’d recommend both clomid and tamoxifen combined as they work synergistically.
5) As for HCG, I like running it 600-800mcg split into two doses a week the entire length of the cycle. Helps pct a lot easier.
Bloodwork) More Plates More Dates has a really great bloodwork website where you can order your own lab slips for pretty cheap.
Needles) Bulk Syringes or MedLab is where I get mine
1) Test E is the go to choice for most who run their first cycle. Dosing can be different as most Test E is 300mg/ml where as Test C can be 200mg/ml and Test P even less so the others can cost you more to get the same dosage. Loads of options across all but Test E is what I'd recommend.
1 A) As this is your first cycle, I'd recommend going on 500mg per week (2x 250mg) to maximise your gains.
2) 12 weeks cycle
3) Either will do.
4) Both
5) Haven't had any experience with this myself.
Extras
1) Quite a number of sources can be found searching in the forum but here is one: Bloodlabuk
2) Medisupplies.co.uk is where I ordered my needles, syringes, sharps bin and alcohol wipes. Better to buy packs of 100 as you will want another cycle if you do this one properly. I use 21g 5/8' needle to draw and 25g 1' to pin
Good luck
Like I said in your first post. Get a good foundation first before you run a cycle. You don't want to waste gear on muscle that you could have easily got naturally.
Roger man, and its good advice. But I can't make an informed decision without information. So better to spam the newbie first cycle area until I get a better idea and can weigh the benefits and come up with a plan. Even then I could still decide against it.
There is a plethora of information on here. Dig through the forums. Make sure you have everything you'll need. Always get an extra vial of Test just in case you need it. Some vials may be slightly underdosed and you also lose some. Keep all AI and PCT on hand. You'll never know if you have to come off for something unforeseen. Shit happens and you'll want to be prepared for the worst, if not over prepare. Do your homework. Get your training and diet on point. You wont grow without food, no matter how much gear you run.
1) Either or will do and the dosing will be the same
2) 4 to 5 weeks is when your blood will reach full serum levels. 6 weeks is when it's getting good. You'll be cutting yourself short. I wouldn't really go less than 8 weeks. 10 to 12 being a sweet sport for many. 0
3) AI, keep both on hand. Some like one or the other
4) You will need both to get a proper PCT
5) Not really needed unless you absolutely want to make sure you are fertile after a cycle
Exra
1) There are many online Labs these days that they'll mail you a kit and you can send it back. Also there are some that you can order online and go to a lab near you that'll do the bloodwork. No doctor needed for either. I would get bloods done around 4/5 week mark and as needed if you are feeling off.
2) I buy all my needles off Amazon. Never had an issue in all the years I've done it. 25g 1" pins are perfect in my opinion.
6 weeks on Test E? No way bro. By week 7 you really will be peaking in levels in my experience so first you will miss that and then why not go another 7-9 weeks on your peak? Amazon is fine for needles ive been doing for years and never experienced anything sketchy. The other guys can answer your other questions in better words than me.