posted Fri, 04/12/2024 - 13:07
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I’m about to be starting my first legit cycle here pretty soon. I’ve been on TRT 200mg/wk for almost two years now. And about 1 1/2 yrs ago, I started experimenting with sarms. I started at 5’10, 160lbs. Now I’m at 196lbs. My strength has increased a lot as well, obviously.
I’ve also done blasted up to 500mg of test for like a month and then cruised at trt, and I really liked the results compared to the sarms, (rad140, yk11, mk677).
So I’m waiting on an order of test e, dbol, Decca, Proviron, and cialis, as well as mk677. What do you guys think would be a good cycle with those? Tnx
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Start with just the high dose test. The point to a test only cycle first is to learn how your body responds to a single androgen. If you start mixing in deca, dbol, etc and an issue pops up you wont know which compound is causing it and you'll spend the rest of your cycle chasing you're tail trying to figure out where the issue is. As others have said you need to get bloodwork to verify how your body is doing on the drugs. You get bloodwork before you start the cycle, 6ish weeks into the cycle and then again after the cycle is over and you've been back down to just trt for a while. In most states you can go get your own bloodwork done without a dr script. I use ultalabtests.com though there are several other popular sites. You just select the tests you want, pay for them, print out the paperwork and bring it with you to the phlebotomist. You'll start getting results sent to your email as they come in. Ulta uses Quest Diagnostics for pulling the bloods. Other vendors use other places like LabCorp. You just need to figure out which phlebotomist is local to you and then find an online blood work place that uses that lab. If you search there's several threads on here where people discuss which vendors they use.
If you want some more info on getting bloods done send me a FR. I can copy and paste you some messages i sent to another member with links and info for what you need to check, etc.
If this is your 1st real cycle i would just stick with the Test E and D-bol, run it and see how you like it and how your body reacts to it. Test E 500mg/week for 10 weeks and 20-25mg D-bol/day weeks 1-6 should put on some good size and rapid strength increase.
How much Deca did you order? i think i usually run Deca for 12-16 weeks. 400mg/week. if you plan on taking it along with test you can lower the test E dose.
Provirion i usually add it to cutting cycles, summer cycles to see any hardening effects. Not sure I would notice its benefits when running it with D-bol, i pack on alot of size with D-bol even 25mg/day.
I have enough decca for 22.5 weeks at 400mg/wk. And I’ve got enough test e for a long time.
This is your first cycle. Do bloodwork first. Order Asin or Adex. When one of those is in your hand… then you run Test E only at 500mg. 5-6 weeks in, do more bloodwork. Check your free and total testosterone and E2. Correlate these numbers with how you feel. Learn how to manage your estrogen (if necessary) while running testosterone. Master testosterone before you move on to another compound and definitely don’t run a stack.
So I do have a Dr. that I receive my trt from. But he’s also my primary care doc. So I’m a little worried that if I’m honest with him about me blasting the Test, and sarms etc. that he could cut me off… What do you think I should do? I mean, he seems super cool, but he also prescribes me adderall, so idk this would interfere with his ability to provide that for me.
I use my primary care physician for my precycle bloods. That way he sees all my health markers in order. When I am on cycle, I pay for blood work out of pocket.
I would run them all at low doses and titrate up as needed. Like 300 test, 300 deca per week, 10 dbol per day, probably would run the proviron a little higher to help with the e2, like 50-75mg per day, cialis is great while on deca 5-10mg a day. Definitely going to want some aromasin or arimidex on hand though.
Also, I have found that I’m sensitive to gyno, and even test alone at trt dose raises my e2 too high, so I have an rx for anastrazole, plus I have another 100 ug tabs of it as well. Plus 100 more nolvadex tabs as well.
There's nothing to stop Decca from irritating the gyno if it's slightly active. No nolva, caber or an ai will counter it.
Dbol it's possible to control if you keep estro down. But too many other sides go with dbol for me.
Run the test. See if your able to keep the gyno down
If your sensitive to gyno dbol is not going to be your friend, it will aromatize way more than test, you will feel the nips after like 2 days. I'd drop dbol, do a solid full length test only cycle
For sure, thx for the advice. I’ve read about that, and so I’d decided to drop the eq I was going to get in favor of proviron. I was wondering if peppering in proviron while using the dbol could potentially offset the gyno. What do you think?
anvilYes it could be, depended on dose and length of cycle.
I am interested in seeing how you find the Dbol in comparison to the YK11 and RAD140 bud.
I think the yk11 is my favorite so far for muscle building. That rad140 was great for strength and vascularity it seems. Also I love lgd 4033 as preworkout. So I’m excited to see the difference for sure -- I’ll def keep you posted
Was the yk injectable?
Yes. It works way better that way I’ve found.
I tried the LGD 4033 the other week, but it made me feel tired kinda like Superdrol did with that synthetic prohormone feeling. Is YK11 like that too? At the time I kept seeing LGD was better for strength than RAD 140, but now all I keep seeing is RAD is better LMAO Whats your opinion on that front?
Hm I’ve never tried superdrol, or any prohormones. So I can’t compare. And it’s hard to say which one is better. I personally found rad140 worked well as a cycle. But I liked lgd as a preworkout. Also, it seemed like I would build up a tolerance to all of them quite fast. So I found that to maintain efficacy, the dose should be increased with the rad140 and yk11 the longer I took it.
The yk11 was FAR more potent when used IM. Almost like a completely separate compound as far as effects go.