Ending cycle with mast and anavar to dry out before beach vacation
I am just starting my last month of a 20 week 500mg test cyp blast. E2 has been an issue and I finally have it dialed in with asin 12.5 Ed and mast prop 400mg per week. I started the mast just about 3 weeks ago. This wasn't planned but I found out I aromatize like crazy and asin is expensive and I don't love the way 25mg Ed had me feeling, so adding the mast and keeping it at 12.5mg a day has been good.
I was going to run 50mg of var for 4 weeks to finish the cycle purely for the reason of drying out for the beach. I'm also on 2iu per day gh to help recover a shoulder tendon and that has added some water, but I don't want to discontinue this as I want to heal as quickly as possible.
Wondering if adding the var will even be worth it for a drying effect? I wasn't sure if the mast would already max out the dryness so to speak. I was planning on saving what I have for a kicker for next cycle, but also have some tbol on hand as well I could use for that. My bloodwork has been good. Lipids and liver are better than expected albeit hematocrit is a bit high. BP around 126/86 which is about 5-10 points higher for my baseline.
I didn't plan this initially so want to get some experienced opinions on if I'm just wasting var or not.
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Ironically the last few days I've dried out quite a bit. Seems the mast is in full effect now. I'll likely be able to get away with my look right now and if I feel the need, the var is still an option. Thanks for all the replies. Much better than Reddit for real advice on juicing.
AirborneGruntGood to hear brother. Daily dosing for me was 10 ed in the am then went up to 20. My metabolism is ridiculously fast so I began to feel dry right away - I could have gone up but why bother when I was feeling great at 20. Lower the dose the better IMO. Lower the BF the more Ull look shredded
AirborneGruntLow body fat, zero to no test, a small dose of MastE and a pinch of Var - I was solid as a rock. That low dose of Var gave me that extra boost which helped me sculpt with the Maste.
Thanks for the reply. How long into daily dosing was it when the var dryness peaked for you? I was contemplating starting the var a week before @50mg ed and just dose it throughout the vacation. But, if 2 weeks of daily dosing is enough to fuck up my lipids I might as well just get the most out of it and take it the 4-6 weeks.
Agree with Makwa. mast and anavar do pretty much the same thing. I'd stick to the mast. fortunately i dont really aromatize at high rates even with higher dose test. Only time I drop AI is when I jack TNE. Otherwise I don't need it.
That is great. My buddy I blast with is also this way. Hasn't needed an AI at all on 500 test. Lucky SOBs.
I have the same problem and didn’t realize it until a month ago when I was doing exactly what you are doing now. I dropped my test down to 50mg per week along with 50mg of injectable Winstrol at 50mg per day for the last two weeks. Best mini cycle ever and looked the best I looked in years on vacation last week in Jamaica. I’m back home again and I’m simply cruising Test at 50mg per week. In one week, body fat is down .50%and my veins are becoming more pronounced. I’m starting to think that I retain water from looking at a bottle of test. My water percentage is still at 60 which blows my mind. Next week I may drop test completely for a month just to see what happens.
Awesome glad it worked for you! I wouldn't drop test completely unless you're not on TRT and starting PCT. Low test feels like shit. The injectable orals are intriguing but feels risky for a beginner like me to mess with. Did you also feel good on that cycle? I'll probably save the more intense roids for later since the basics are still giving me pretty awesome gains.
Next cycle will be test mast DHB @500,400,400/week with eod pinning. Also will be bumping gh to 3-4 iu per day throughout. Going to kick off with tbol or anavar. Plan to be below 15% bf at beginning of the cycle. I'm still spitballing the exact cycle but set on those 3 compounds at least.
If 400mg of mast P hasn't hardened you up I don't think 50mg of var is going to make much of difference. It will however totally wreck your lipid profile. You would probably be better off just dropping your test level to really let the mast overcome the aromatization/wetness from all the estro your body is producing. There is a reason most of us drop test completely or significantly lower it before a show.
Yep I was thinking someone would recommend lowering the test. Assuming I'd have to start TRT cruising now to have this affect be apparent in a month from now? Also since I just started the mast p a couple weeks ago I don't think the full saturation has been realized. I can give it a week and see where I'm at in that regard.
Someone mentioned the anavar also helps will healing. My case specifically is a front shoulder tendon. I wasn't aware it was good for this but I would assume maybe a lower dose for a longer time interval would be better in this regard. I'll have to do some research on anavar a healing properties.
Lower test back to trt two weeks out from Tripp and continue with mast as is. Might want to add in some mast e if a month out so it will carry you through trip when you stop pinning. Mast p would already be at peak levels by now
Yep I was planning to cruise with 200 mast e 200 test. How would the conversion go? Would I just continue the mast prop and also add in the mast e 200 and then drop the prop entirely after 3 weeks?
I was planning on bringing the mast and test with for my EOD pinning. I have TRT script and mast would just add to empty test bottle. Was also going to check it and not carry on. Trip is domestic.
If you are going to bring everything with you then just use the mast like you are now with a trt dose of test. Shouldn’t need an ai then
50mg of var for 4 weeks at tail end of cycle will have you looking dry and pumped while at the beach. I would give it a go. Considering you are only running test, mast and you mentioned blood work was good...can't see any reason not to run it. It will especially aid in recovery of that tendon issue you mentioned as oxandrolone has been clinically proven effective for tendon/ligament repair. Anavar is relatively safe and should be no issue to run 4 weeks @50mg/day like you though of. Keep the water intake high to prevent cramping and to avoid the sometimes unberable pump anavar brings. Save the TBol for later. Start Var at 30mg/day and see how you tolerate it and after a week increase to 40/50 if necessary. Cheers
Awesome thanks I will give it a go! That's great to hear about the healing aspect. I knew it was good for burns but did not know it also helped joints and tendons.
That pump is insane! I do occasionally take a full 50mg pre workout and holy cow those pumps. The abdominal muscle cramp I got one day was horrible. I was super setting the ab machine next to the cable machine and jumped off the ab cruncher and bent down to change the weight on the cable machine and BAM! The whole gym looked my way as I grunted my way through it lol. Had to reassure them it was just a cramp. You wouldve thought a grenade went off in my stomach lol. I thought a calf cramp was bad until this happened. I will have to manage that as best I can. I thought I read there are some supplements that help with the cramping also. Will def have to look into that.
Adequate H20...Gatorade for electrolytes, taurine, potassium, and sodium intake being on point will help alleviate the cramping from var. Plenty of forums on cramping from Anavar here. Have fun at the beach man