+ 1 2nd proper cycle - failed PCT prior
Hi all,
Will be starting my 2nd cycle soon and hoping to cruise after.
History;
1- 7 week dbol 50mg - this was about 10 years ago, no research done at all but no issues after
2- 500mg test cyp p/w, 12 weeks total, pinned Monday morning and Thursday night. Nice gain’s nothing too dramatic but got what I wanted and got a taste for blasting. Aromasin used throughout cycle. Bad sides came heavy after cycle ended took me about 4 months to recover as I couldn’t get my e2 and prolactin in check. Thought I done all the research I needed but clearly not.
Since then I’ve spent a lot of time trying to figure out the best way to approach the next cycle.
Planning to run the below;
Week 1-4 30mg dbol
Week 1-14 400mg test e split between 2 jabs
Week 8-14 50mg var
Plan to cruise on 125mg test e p/w until November when I will up the test to 400/500 and add in 300 eq for around 20 weeks.
Will be doing bloods before and during.
Have I missed anything or are there any suggestions?
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RustyhookerHorrible....
I should have said this time around I will be going with arimadex over asin.
Would you suggest running nolva while taking the dbol or only as needed?
Is this one of those famous bulk and cut cycles? Dbol to start and var to finish? What are you actually trying to do?
Genuinely wasn’t planning it to be a bulk then cut.
I’ll not lie, after the last cycle I lost a lot of size as I stopped training for about 3 months.
I was thinking to get up to a good base size with the dbol, build with the test for the remainder and just use the var for some firmness/pumps.
I’m avoiding 19 nors for the time being so trying to build a decent base with orals
"a good base size with dbol" is not possible because anything you "gain" on dbol will disappear upon discontinuation of dbol, like most oral AAS. Your diet and proper training will always dictate your results, not the drugs you take.
"A good base size" is attained by hardwork and dedication in and out the gym. (Kitchen) Naturally. Your "foundation". Otherwise you will be stuck in this yo-yo vicious cycle of "up and down" each and everytime you take AAS. Lose everything you gain, feel like crap mentally and physically, all because you didn't put the time in and didn't create a "solid foundation". It's like trying to build a house in marshland.
You are only going on your 2nd cycle ever and have already made up your mind up to "cruise" afterwards and committed to injecting yourself weekly for life? You don't know what you are signing up for ....but I wish you luck and take care
My guy I think I am wording what I am try to say poorly, or maybe I am just wrong all together - but hey that’s why I’m here before jumping into it again.
I was planning on the 4 weeks of dbol as I know how I react to it, almost as a front load while the test e builds up not to try and compensate for a poor diet or training regime - I’m aware that majority of ‘gains’ will reduce once it is stopped.
My diet is and has been on point, without going into full detail (unless you guys deem it necessary) I am consuming around 300 calories above maintenance to keep any fat being added to a minimum with a 40/30/30 split on protein/fat/carbs. Split across 5 meals with proper foods and minimal use of protein powders etc.
My plan to cruise is because I plan to run a further cycle at the end Oct / start of November and don’t want to risk the come down I had previously. Maybe this is the wrong approach but I am just trying to play this as smart as I can, in saying that if I feel it would be best to come if I have HCG, clomid and nolva ready to use.
Again I am just trying to be as safe as I can while doing what I enjoy.
The last thing you are doing is being safe. Staying on any amount of test whatsoever for that amount of time is going to fry your HPTA and require you to be on TRT and pin exogenous test for the rest of your life. Just making a deal with the devil.