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+ 10 Testosterone and HGH

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I have been receiving a few PM's from less experienced members(nothing wrong with that and I like helping you guys out =D) asking me to explain IMO how I compare testosterone to HGH so I decided to post this thread with the best explanation I can come up with, keep in mind I am no GURU like Tread and guys with that level of knowledge but I figured I could come up with something to help explain in a simple way to some of the guys here how these 2 amazing substances are so different in so many ways. Please if I made a mistake on any statement feel free to comment on it as this is something I came up with based on what I "think" I know.

So how does testosterone compare to HGH??

I believe you have to look at HGH and testosterone as 2 total different things, they work and act differently is almost every way. HGH's end result is basically raising our IGF 1 levels, HGH can cause hyperplasia which is the multiplication or creation of new muscle cells therefore enhancing one's genetic capability to add new muscle(this benefit of HGH use is achieved at higher doses IMO 5iu or higher). HGH has it's benefits even at doses as low as 1.5 to 3iu promoting fat loss and will make your body more efficient as far as how it processes the protein you ingest(improved protein synthesis) resulting in a physique with less fat and a good environment to build muscle. HGH has to be run for long periods of time, 6 months MINIMUM to a full year IMO and it does not produce immediate results like Testosterone can, HGH gains can be noticed at least in my case after 2 months or so where my stomach tightens up and waist size decreases.
Now testosterone is a little substance most of us here know very well and will cause rapid muscle growth and strength increase in as little as a few days with the fast ester versions. Usually used in no longer than 16 week cycles often stacked with other anabolics followed by a PCT. HGH does not require any PCT

For example, I use HGH because @ 5'7" 200lb on my very skinny frame and fast metabolism is pretty much as much as I can get even with juice and 4500cals+... That's where the hyperplasia comes in, Testosterone cannot build new muscle cells, it can only grow them. So I am "creating new muscle cells w/ the HGH" and also hitting the Testosterone to grow those new babies therefore boosting my genetic ability to put on muscle beyond what steroids alone could ever do for me. Again, gains aren't as drastic as Testosterone as I already mentioned, slow gains but these new cells are yours for good. Major plus also already mentioned is in the fat loss and protein synthesis aspect, HGH stacks well with Testosterone but I won't get into detail on that. HGH + AAS along with a nice diet is a very nice combo if you are trying to push through harsh plateaus, all about up'in the axis.

I personally do not recommend anyone younger than 27 to use HGH and speacially if you arent close to your genetic max, this post is for the guys that are fit to use it, hope it helped.

jahanzeb's picture

This is what we called a great information ....thanxxx mate!!!

Pushit's picture

Well that makes me feel better because yes to me you look big, almost stocky.

So are you saying you have skinny wrists & ankles. To me it doesnt matter how much bulk you add, these areas will always be thin. At least thats the case with me

Pushit's picture

Thats an example of an excellent informative post that is written in easy to understand english.

@ 5'7" 200lb on my very skinny frame

Thats not skinny,,,please. If so what does 5'11" at 185 lbs on me mean.

Dam now im going to start lookin at the credit card for some of this myself.

Considering HGH is not a steroid is it illegal. I might look into it but im in Australia

ruski's picture

yes. without an rx, it is very illegal.

Pushit's picture

RX, does that mean a doctors script?

I just dont get it you know. If your not in sports for competition & you are not somehow making money from it why is this type of stuff illegal.

Whats wrong with wanting to make yourself the best you can be if its not hurting anyone else

Just my little gripe

ruski's picture

yes, prescription. i look at it this way, cops want gear illegal because without it their bullets might, just might, have a chance of stopping me Blum 3

Pushit's picture

Haha imagine that bam bam two bullets to the body or maybe it starts with his stun gun . Its stops you walking for a second but then you smile at him & keep on coming, bam bam two more & now your snarling but you keep on coming, bam hes desperate now so its one to the head, your vision clouds over, you blink a couple of times & wipe away the blood trickling into your eyes but you can still make out his uniform so u keep on coming.

Now thats a story i think would be passed on for generations to come

Colossus_fit's picture

thanks for your answer bro

just233's picture

Good read bro,and your absolutely right,I'm three months in running 5iu ed and I'm just starting too see results,expecially with endurance,HGH is definitely a long term commitment if you want to see results.

jprizzle's picture

He is saying its low compared to on cycle dose.

Colossus_fit's picture

thanks for all good informations bro,How long the rest beetween hgh cycles in your opinion??for example after a cycle of 6 month bro...

Odin's Son's picture

I have tried locating this post on T4 and its effect on HGH and finally did it. Hope this helps.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/hgh-peptides/rhgh/thyroid-hormone-growth-hor...

jprizzle's picture

awesome thank you! I think thats exactly how I am gonna run it. My plan is to try to bring the bf down. I dont look like im fat at all the only part of me that it is noticeable at all is I have love handles LOL! I will diet right and cardio and hope the HGH will give me a little boost. When I am ready to start I will probably PM you with some more questions.

jprizzle's picture

any benifit to using HGH while just on TRT doses(100-150mg per week of test cyp)?
Will The HGH help keep gains that I got while on higher doses (600 per week and 600EQ)
I have some coming and am trying to decide how im gonna use it. Never have used it before. Im on trt and 28 years old. 5,7 180# About 15% BF.
Please dont say I shouldnt be using anything. before I started TRT I was #148 .
The way I figure it since i am already on trt I m,ight as well go all in. cant make it any worse ( I think??)

Thanks
Jprizzle

Colossus_fit's picture

grat post bro =) +1

P's picture

Very nice read! Will look forward to your articles on IGF, GHRP etc.

Odin's Son's picture

Very informative! I am getting 3 kits of my own soon and will be using 2iu for a little between cycle boost and then blast it up to 5 iu per day along side T4 with my next bulking cycle here in the Fall. Tread was explaining how T4 plays a role when using 3 or more iu a day. Thanks for the info Plus +1

fast48's picture

Great read! Everyone thinks it's cycled only with juice. But 6mo and beyond fills in the rest.

RickRock1086's picture

Amazing info FCVtec, high five for sharing this!

boots2asses12's picture

Always wondered about this, thank you for shedding some light on the subject.

power_house's picture

MONEY!!!