posted Thu, 12/01/2011 - 16:59
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soooo sleepy on Hgh
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Only been on for a little over a week. Started at 2ius, lowered to 1iu to see if it helped.
I'm getting so sleepy during the day. Almost painfully. I hate say it, but probably something to do with my glucose /insulin levels.
Anyone also experienced ? Did it subside?
Thinking about T4.
Would love to hear from anyone who had similar symptoms and either was successful long-term or not.
Thanks!
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Jackyboy1Makes me sleepy too. No change in exercise etc so must be the growth.
I take it (4IU) after nights sleep before workout then eat an hour later (this is the best way so I’ve read).
Its effects are short lived so I’ surprised it affects me so much later in the day.
Im on 5iu/ed and sleepy as fuck all the time. then again, supposedly my gh is "bunk" so it must be from the gram of test and 200mcg of clen/ed.
Hey B! Yeah I had that same issue two days ago, I was soo sleepy when I increased HGH too fast. I dropped it to 1.5 like you stated and boom no more sleepy feeling. I guess I had to slow my roll too!
Update in case anyone else can use this info.
I dropped down to 1—1.5 Iu for week or so. Came back to 2 ius. No more sleepy feeling. I can only assume I needed to come up slowly.
Oh, I do have the carpal tunnel. Doesn't really bother me, just slight ache in the wrist and some numbness in my fingers.
Cheers.
what brand of gh are you running?
Kigtropin
sounds like you got some legit kigs. ehealth?
Yep.
good to hear. thanks for the responses.
tread-mNice to hear, slow roll gets it done. The cts will subside at some point as well.
I have heard this before but for me I have noticed absolutely no side effects of using 2-2.5 iu's of HGH. I could not tell you it makes me sleepy or anything for that matter...
Having said that my diet is pretty clean though. I wonder what you are eating really? write down a couple days here of what you ate.
Update:
Been very strict with my diet over the last day or so, eating clean and more importantly I think, eating every three hours. Better, but man, about 4 hrs after injection I just feel sleepy.
I know someone will scream about my suppressing my natty HGH but seriously considering injection right before I go to bed. Check that, will give it another week before changing.
thanks guys.
Anonyou've got to do what works for you the best... I think the aging doc over in the 40 plus section that everyone should pin in the afternoon.. just curious but have you cut back on your dosage? also, when's the last time you had a blood test? thyroid levels check blood glucose all that fun stuff... dietary changes help but they don't work immediately..
Susan 250 every 4 days in that i'm wrapping up a blast, 200 test e every 2 weeks for hrt, pellets in every 3 months
Eat four meals day, average, not great diet.
I've read other forums where folks had similar sides. I'm hoping for those that "yeah, was happening to me and then I X happened and it subsided.
For starters, going to A. Make sure I get a solid 8-9 hrs sleep, B. Give it another week for body to adjust
tread-mAlright let me preach to you a minute. I will refer to this as "the dirty little secret". Most people dont know that you can eat a bodybuilders diet along with proper workouts and your benefits will be huge! I know you are probably not BBing but what we do really is just that to varying degree. So if you dont want to be Phil or Jay or Ronnie thats fine but we do want some variation of that even if only mild variation. So you're not going to eat 10-12 lbs of food a day, the synergy from the specific foods is what we are looking for, even if we cut the total weight in food down 80%. The synergistic effect of food in the body is so important to cause not only natty hormone to function correct but also synthetics to go with it. I can give you many places to go here but let me give you an easy one. Go over to jaycutler.com and click on blueprints. Trying to maintain the proper foods specifically just cut the amount or calories and try and adopt some meal plans. You will be surprised at the improvement with how you feel and look and how quickly you respond if you adopt good eating habits to goal. Brother the food is probably 90% of the goal and may actually be more than that. I know a guy in his late 40's that eats right and does low level hrt and doesnt even work out and he looks 10 years younger in just over 2 years. Even if you dont take the advice on a builders diet, find a nutricionist to help take foods you like and can live with and make some plans for you. Think about at least 5 meals a day even if small. Consider what hgh does so we can talk about your sleepiness. Hgh actually creates new cells in the body to where juice can only incrase the size of current cells. That process in part causes more stomach ghrelin. Ghrelin is what tells you that you are hungry and its production speeds up you metabolism and you are simply depleting all of your nutrients much faster. Remember when you were 16 how you were hungry a lot and constantly shoving food in your mouth? This was because you were peaking on natty growth hormone causing the axis to prompt higher levels of test and the other way around and you were a ghrelin factory as you are becoming again. The reason you had all the energy then is because you ate something every hour and it usually included carbs promoting more insulin and that promotes more hpga production and more ghrelin and more food and.....see where I am going. You are likely missing part of the puzzle to complete the loop and my guess is after your diet comment " not a great diet" that this is where we begin. You want to succeed and you are building a nice hotrod there but until you put tires on it, its not gonna work. The tires here are the diet. You have to get that in. Order or failure is the only option you have given yourself. Ok, let me hammer you on test a sec.....why? Thats just way more test than a person needs brother and given the fact that your hgh usage is low it is very unlikely your axis is discarding a lot of it and that before we discuss the fact that there are only so many resceptors to bind to. Its just too much is my point. To b at 1000 on free test is one thing but to sit at 1500 or more seems to be beyond saturation to the degree that there is no more benefit and you are probably binding spent test too long in too many resceptors now while fee test roams looking for a home. I wont bust you too bad there because realistically none of it matters if we cant get this diet right. You will peak, if not already, based on nutrition deficits alone and until that changes there is where you will sit. If that happens to be in a place where you feel tired or sluggish then that will be a constant as well. If what you are doing is not working then you change it, its that simple. Fix that diet and I have a feeling the conversation is over.
Good input on diet.
To clarify :
I'm doing 1 CC of sus250 every four days. In addition I'm doing 1cc of Test E 250 every other week.
tread-mYeah and I dont mean to make it sound like you're running 2000 mg's a week but if you factor in your pellets and othe long ester and then pull up a chart of how high sust stacks in ester towards mid and end cycle its a lot of test. Not like abuser amounts but just well beyond what I consider conservative. Sauce stacks high a nd as all of thos esters begin to pop at cycles end combined with your other test products you're loaded brother. I wont kill you on that at all though, that diet is just so much more important of a topic....even the 5 meals a day will likely help you a lot as long as its not too out of balance ande causikng highs and lows in energy, then. You just wear yourself out! Lol. Nice balance in 5 or 6 meals if possible with work and life will do you a lot of good though and allow you to run up higher on cycle with hgh. As you come off cycle I would cruise it at only about 2 iu's anyway until next cycle.
French fries count as potatoes! ???
Going to eat better and report back.
tread-mI would put up everything you are doing in terms of other compounds, time of pop and eating habits. There is something at play obviously but I dont want to jump to any conclusions without knowing your other info. As grrrl said, test for thyroid if you feel the need there, hgh at those levels will not have an impact on thyroid and certainly not in a week. I did have and still occasionally have some sleepy issues but you do balance later and as has been mentioned food is important to help the natty insulin kick, just have to give it a reason to kick. Put up the other compounds though unless you're in an hgh cruise between cycles.
Anondo not take T4 unless you have a blood test to determine that your thyroid levels are low.. taking thyroid is not the answer here and you can do irreparable damage to your endocrine system. . what else has changed? I am of the impression you are not supposed to eat prior to or after injecting but there are a thousand and 1 opinions on that. Daytime sleepiness often has a lot do with blood sugar and dietary issues.
I agree with not eating prior to an injection, but not eating directly after is completely wrong.
I know some people may disagree with me here, but if we consider the fact that HGH is the most effective when thyroid/insulin/test levels are on-par, the simple reason for eating directly after an injection is that you want your insulin levels to spike in order to aid the HGH in IGF-1 production.
That is why you should have a large amount of easily digestable protein, high amount of carbs, and LOW fat so as not to slow absorption.
That is why injections are best done directly after waking up, and after training. As for the sleepiness, personally I don't have this issue.
what about diabetes? i heard hgh makes you insulin resistant and eating carbs close to injetion time can give you Hyperglycemia, repeat this too often and you run the rick of developing type II diabetes. thats what most sources i have read say anyway..
Think about that for a minute. If HGH has a half-life of 6 - 7 hours, then what difference does it make if I eat straight away or wait an hour?
You guessed it, no difference, other than the fact that you are instantly giving the GH nutrients that it can channel into your muscles.
Show me were you read that.
Now if you add insulin, yes that can potentially mess you up.
"Carbohydrate metabolism: Growth hormone is one of a battery of hormones that serves to maintain blood glucose within a normal range. Growth hormone is often said to have anti-insulin activity, because it supresses the abilities of insulin to stimulate uptake of glucose in peripheral tissues and enhance glucose synthesis in the liver. Somewhat paradoxically, administration of growth hormone stimulates insulin secretion, leading to hyperinsulinemia."
if you google 'hgh diabetes risk' some info comes up.
don't know exactly how prevalent this side effect is or how probable. maybe the average healthy person doesn't have much to worry about? insulin resistance could explain why some people feel tired on hgh. im considering taking a small dose of metformin with my carb meals just incase..
http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/hypopit/gh.html