Red welts...why they call it "Redtropin" :)
So been experimenting with a kit of this for a couple weeks now. Not sure what to think, guess 70% certain it's fake. Was injecting 6iu daily IM to see if I would get any hand tightness / numbness but nothing. I did get really full feeling nuts and a acne outbreak so initially thought okay this is just HCG...fucking great. Did the preg test on a digital meter wasted a vial and it came up with no reading at all of positive or negative. So I decided to still run the rest of it but at a way reduced level of 2iu a day in case it was HCG or who knows what???
A couple of days ago I decided to inject sub q because I read injecting I'm or into fat renders HGH useless because of the short half life there isnt enough time to absorb or greatly reduces its potency. The following morning I woke with a big red itchy welt but wow I also got a great night sleep and I have suffered insomnia for years! I actually took 2 Benadryl but this was two less than my average 4 a night.
So wow, I have a great night sleep and a welt beside my navel? Bugger is gross and itchy! So that morning I inject on inner thigh IM and this morning no welt! Slept pretty good but not quite as good as previous night.
So many explanations out there, 192 vs 191, improper hygienic conditions during production. I'm wondering if the effects are better injected sub q vs IM but I'm not willing to risk the welts. Anyone have this experience?
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no mater of the type , yellow , hygets etc , this is skin allergy to preservative it contains , its not related to hgh itself , its not harmfull, it goes away after few days , this is caused by Methylparaben (a type of preservative to make hgh stay stable at room tempreture so it can be shipped by mail)
I had this issue a few years back on my first run with GH. And after having run several rounds of GH since, I'm confident the shit in the vial was the real deal. There are tons of posts on the net by folks that have also experienced this, with explanations ranging from impurities in the GH left over from the manufacturing process, to allergic reactions to the reconstitution medium (Bac, sterile, sodium, etc.), to pin dept. I'd put my money on the manufacturing by-product being the culprit. I took benadryl, smeared that shit in cortizone cream, and it didn't phase it. Switched to IM pins, and it went away. Switch back to Sub Q a few months later and never had a problem with it again. I certainly wouldn't say it means you gear is bunk, as the batch that gave me the welts was probably the best batch i have had. But it is potentially a sign of some extra ingredients in the vial. BTW - my experience with the welts was not with Red tops.
were did you get them from? hope thier not big-d's redtops cuase im about to order some after getting fucked on a 700 dollar deal for some novotropins. some dude on this forum recomended me to them, he has allota posts on this forum claiming he recives from them and hase igf-1 blood tests but after ordering from his source, and them never replying and its been 13 days and nuthing...
Have you done the IGF blood serum test, or HGH blood serum test? Or both :)?
and all i'm saying is that just because YOU havent gotten red welts doesnt mean it doesnt happen... and no disrespect and you may be correct but tread has a ton more credibility than you
Synthetic rHGH is produced from genetically engineered E Coli. The purification process does not remove all the toxins from the E Coli so the poorer the purification process the more toxins there will be. Some people may exhibit red welts due to their intolerance to these toxins. Also I believe there are various forms of rHGH 190 191 and 192. 190 was first produced by Gentec followed by Eli Lilly with 191 (human grade identical). Red welts may also be the individuals response to 190 or 192 as opposed to the 191 identical. That is just my input Hllywd I wouldn't dream of telling my Grandmother how to suck eggs :-)
actually talked to tread and he says it can happen... no dierespect my man but tread is th "go to" around here
I'm getting the same welts bro... gonna try site rotations and see how that goes
The red welts are usually a bad sign. Not a sign of bunk or not, but rather the purification process wasn't very good. Another posibility is it's 192 or there are a lot of abnormalies and your body is producing antibodies.
Are you guys using bac water or sterile water? Sterile water can cause some stinging/welts. Also there are various fillers in chinese HGH that can cause a reaction, such as mannitol. Doesn't mean you have legit GH or not - only way to know is a serum test, but those could cause welts. I know of one product that users frequently report welts, and I know for a fact is also contains real HGH. (The man's famous color)