I think the stuff is real, but overdosed. I ordered three kits the day before Christmas and it came I believe right before the new year. Started Jan 3 maybe.

I just stopped taking it. The side effects were just unbearable. The bloating was extreme to the point my clothes didn't fit. I was extremely lethargic. Couldn't get out of bed, could barely concentrate at work, etc.

Positives: tendonitis in my forearms went down significantly with 6 weeks of treatment. Hair and nails did grow faster than usual.

I was at 2ius on average most of that time. I might try again on 1iu.

Maybe I'm just sensitive to HGH?

Most of what we are seeing is just some wanna be chemists begging to be important or reading one review from another site saying the new ones are bad. I have a friend here who has ran them and has the new and the very good old style who says they have less strength than the old. The new ones seem to be crimped ina way that is less professional than the old and now vacuum that the supplier claims is new N2 technology. I have the new I am going to test myself tomorrow and Monday at a higher iu than I am running and see how strong the cts is but I have ordered their jin in case they are not what I have come to expect from kigs. I suspect with all the lost revenue the manufacturer for these will come to their senses at some point because there is a growing number of people all over the net not wanting them. You are maybe too young to remember when coke came out with"new coke" and for a brief moment they stopped selling old coke until someone pulled their head out of their ass! I am hoping kigtropin will fix the issues at some point and everyone can trust them again but it is my thought they have boxed themselves into this mess so they will have to do their own work to get out of it and hope they can recover from it at all. It was a very dumb decision in my opinion to F with something that was perfect. Again, I give everything the benefit of the doubt and I am open m.inded but I have jin on the way as well. My suggestion today from E or anywhere else you use is to let those of us who have them play with them to verify and go from there. The person I know pretty well here suspects they are under dosed and while one opinion is not all I need to make my own personal decision I do respect his opinion. Let me say this since a little titty baby made a post in review that his shit was bad and essentially without using my name blamed me for everything that has happened in his life since his birth. I'm not taking anyone around here to Fing raise, I will give you honest opinions and you do whatever the F you want to do and if you don't want anyone elses opinions then do your own Fing leg work. I don't run eroids, I don't have anything to do with any sources other than I personally use E for some of my products and have shared their name with others upon"ASKING ME FOR HELP". I'll repeat, you are resposible for you and I am resonsible for me. If you want some liberal to convince you that you are not in charge of yourself you're barking up the wrong Fing tree you cry baby MFers! Ok, all better and none of that is directed at you Maxtext I just wanted to help you out a bit and at the same time tell these Fing crybaby F'S TO DO THEIR OWN GD Research and if they choose not to to quit acting like those of us who go out of our way to help people are here to let you suckle our tits and take all your Fing problems on our back. I help anyone that asks so if you don't want help then keep your GD fly Fing trap shut and mind your own business. Yup you're right, Treads always so nice but Tread can be a Fing dick head too if YOU are a cry cock and suckle me too long and hard! The 2 baby MFers I'm talking about know who you are so stay the F out of my GD pm box MFers and stand on your own 2 feet for the first Fing time in your precious little lives and take some resposibility for yourself !