From my experience, the Jins from back before the "Raw Deal" were extremely potent and legit. I recently got a couple of Jins from a source here. They are definitely counterfeit or clones. Although I think they might still be legit, they DO NOT compare to the pharma grade Standoz Omnitrope I am running now. I went from doing 4IUs to a little less than 2IUs of the Omnitrope because I was used to the underdosed, peptide, or Amino 192 Chinese garbage. I'm not saying that legit Chinese HGH isn't out there, but if them Chinese are selling poison Sheetrock, kids toys laced with GBL or lead paint, well, you see where I'm going with this.

from my understanding, you might have a chance on getting real jins if they are the ones for export to russia, other than that, there is a SHITLOAD of fake jins out there coming in different box styles and what not. ive heard from our site "GURU" along with many others, the only way of getting real jintropin is someone stealing from a hospital in china or people selling theyre own prescribed kits. GenSci is locked down tight so i would say NO on those although some of the fakes look really good (china is very good for making identical knockoffs) and i know someone who bought some and turned out fake, ask tread, our site "GURU" on his opinion on this and you will see what i mean. as for kigs, let them die, they are 99% fake unless you find someone with a big stash from before november/december (chances are slim to none), LET THEM DIE.

I would say its a good chance of being fakes nowadays. Depending where you get it you can probably get legit kits. From my experience kigs suck. Never tried Jin so I wouldnt know. I have heard that genuine jins are great though.

I would say from my reasearch that most are either complete fakes or underdosed. In my opinion there is no need to take the chance with several of the top rated suppliers here offering Rips that have documented results.