posted Fri, 03/14/2014 - 07:09
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Bloods have me really confused
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I just got blood work done tuesday and just got results back... i am running 100mg test prop. 75mg , tren ace , and 150 mg mast prop every other day. My testosterone serum levels just came back at 792 ??? With what i am running shouldnt my levels be a lot higher then that ? does this mean that some of my gear is more then likely not good? my test level from a blood test i had in 2011 off everything was a 65, very low. still shouldnt i be a lot higher the a 792? someone please help me out here.
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well your gear is not underdosed.
You mentioned you had testosterone level of 65 in 2011, in other words you are hypogonadal according to bloodtests thats only slightly higher than what most women produce. Sorry to say but you are basically castrated. More info would be needed to confirm but thats my guess.
You are running a very very low dose at 100eod so results look completely accurate.
Yea levels are that of a 70 yr old male according to doctor . That's what happens when you cycle with no pct for years. Young guys take note. Although that reading was after running a cycle for a few months , so it also could've been that low from just coming off heavy cycle without time to start rebounding .
Thank you for all the replies, Should i increase my test p dose for remainder of the cycle, maybe double up to 200 mg EOD? to try and get those numbers a little bit higher.
RustyhookerI liked low prop on my tren cutter. look at darksides cycle. In logs.
Yes I am with rusty low dose test on tren for me is the only way I do it now. Good results minimal sides!
RustyhookerLearned from you and the other vets on that train.
I would be surprised if any UGL isn't over or under dosed personally. But if your test levels were 65 in 2011 than yeah that could be about right. Because clearly you have hardly any natty test firing.
Rustyhooker100eod should be a lil bit higher. Like closer to 1200. Props with half life and molecular weight should be bout 400 of test e levels per week.
Estro.....read forums by 883 on tren blood tests. The estradiol comes out wakky..
Tren is nearly a fully "feel" cycle. Which is why vets keep shaking their heads when inexperienced kids use tren. If your horney....good! Weepy...estro. Crunchy....low estro.
ok i didnt know tren could raise estrogen so high , thank you
RustyhookerNot raise. Tren gives false readings on blood tests. 883 has great report on how/why. Guys were posting estro as high as 1400 while on tren and using just 50ed of prop. 50ed of prop cannot cause that much conversion from the blood tests that have been posted.
Estradiol came back at 90.7 , HIGH so i guess i am not taking enough adex at .25 Every 3rd day or i am taking sugar pills one or the other. this is what really bothers me in this game, the uncertainty of what we actually get from some of these suppliers, .. i could really use some advice from you guys on what you think
Using mixed gear from different UGLs is going to throw everything out of whack.... only way to get real straight bloods is to use only ONE lab (preferably pharma).... i quit having bloods done when running multiple lab products or ALL ugl stuff.... my blloods back when i used to use nothing but pharma were always impeccable and with monstrous test readings..... UGL is such a mixed bag varying from bottle to bottle in my experience bloods just are not accurate and worth getting stressed about.
PHARMA was, and is always the way to go.
RustycanWhat you're saying about bloods being like roller coasters because of potential inconsistencies from UGLs makes perfect sense V. For the beginner though, who may not know his body well enough yet and how it's gonna react to AAS, would you say that getting bloods that may fluctuate from test to test because of the UGL, is better than not getting bloods at all unless your with farm grade?? I knw you guys are about safety for the newbs to AAS and preach the importance of bloods.
Personally i am TRT and run year round now and i have bloods drawn twice pr year thats all!.. that is all i have ever done even when i was cycling bro, i dont let bloods put the fear of god into me like some people do!... believe it or not twice pr year bloods is a lot for most brits.... seems to be you guys are more concerned about the slightest little twinges you get when running compounds whereas we just get on with it and take everything in our stride..... lets see if anymore brits chime in on this thread to back me up! to show the slight difference as to how we approach usage differently than you guys.... dont get me wrong here bloods are important but for most recreational users that are off/on willy fkn nilly i see no point..... and i will go as far as to stretch my neck out and say this > with MOST youngsters no matter how hard they shut themselves down the only thing that i personally have ever seen to be NOT reversible are harsh gyno symptoms .. notice how i say MOST because some are genetically built to fail anyway! all this shrunken nutt symptoms they moan about, and virility problems, acne, test flu etc... these people are pre-determined to suffer like this, its not all due to wrong use or abuse of dosages.
Bottom line is this..... you are either built with a strong system that can handle steroids are you are NOT.. its as simple as that.... i read on here and hear stories daily in real life about all these problems!. why do i not suffer the same? i am no superman with special abilities to combat heavy roid use! but some folk crumble even under the lowest dosages or even from ancills (that makes me laugh sorry) but you know you would think after simply one bad experience these folks would quit usage and move to new pastures but they insist in beasting thier bodies over and over again with compounds that thier body simply will not tolerate.
Sorry for dragging this out but i thought it needed saying, if folks want to disagree so be it.... its not a discussion point its my opinion.
RustycanNo need to apologize bro you said something that had been needing to be said IMO. If you look at my profile and stats I'm 42 and pretty much from the Old School Gym. Back in the day, and i knw you knw this V, there wasn't a lot of computers around with this World Wide Web of knowledge there is today, you know what I'm saying. What gear I got and used was what the gear guy at the gym had and until very recently I didn't knw fuk of Adex, caber, or Letro. All I even heard of was deca- dick and no one had any or offered any info or knowledge about what it was, what caused it or what could prevent it; and then take nolvadex for bitch nips and Clomid to make your balls drop back out. So I heard this but they were never available to me. Fortunately, i think im one of the ones you spake of who tolerate AAS fairly well. i have never experienced gyno or gyno symptoms. I'm using some Adex now, which I think is totally fukking with me cause I'm lethargic like a mofo, and this the first AI I have ever run up until now.
I never had any bloods either. Until researching here on site wouldn't knw what I was testing for or why, but again after all the compounds I've ran through me I think my body has handled them ok; I got high bp could be from AAS use or could be hereditary (both my parents have it) I might have some sides in the dick dept too but I just nutted my old lady last night so that is still operational too.
I been holding back on all this (1) cause I dnt want to give the wrong impression to newbs in the game and having them think well fukk it I read I dnt really need bloodwork cause had I known then what I knw now and if the resources were there I would got my shit checked at least periodically and intend on doing so post PCT in the near future just so I can say I at least did it (2) I didn't want you experienced dudes and mods coming down on me and calling me a dumbass,who is sending the wrong message to newbs because I never had bloods or used AIs before.
That's it dude and you thought you were on a rant.., LOL! Anyway my old ass appreciated the fukk outta you stepping up and saying what you did. Made me feel like I could spill and not feel wrong for using AAS for all these years without an adequate amount of information about them.
Brother!.. never feel like you cannot open up and speak about the grass roots when i am involved in a thread.... we come from more or less the same starting grods bro and the shit we did/or didnt learn back then needs to be spoken about when we can.
Some/most of the things us older bastards can talk about and share will not mean a damn thing to lots of youngsters because they have it easy now.... FKs sake i had to nearly get into fights just asking big gym guys what the "secrets" where lol.... jesus! fuckers come here to be spoon fed and dont even know the simple fkn words "please and thankyou"...... i could reminisce for hours here but i have work to do lmao!............ i like and thrive speaking to straight-shooters bro so like i say, never hold back when you have me in a thread ok :))
Rustycan"Thank you, governor!! Lol! I appreciate that!
Well no shit Odin!!!! LOL!
Bloods for me are never because of fear I have had far worse happen than pip, abscesses and deca dick lmao. I use them for one reason to make sure my system is at maximum efficiency. Frankly in my world of work you have to use everything to be the best. But as far as being afraid of aas use getting me first in this life that is fucking amusing!
Either way you make a choice and you live with the results good, bad or ugly! Like you said some people will take to them like water others like poison.
Allow me to take you into my cave and show you some cycles that would make your blood curdle.... i wont go into detail here but how does 5 - 19s sound right off the bat with 5 other compounds all in one stack!.... lol lunacy yeah!... its written in one of my cycle logs before i had the frontal labotomy
We both have the same crazy approach to different dangerous aspects!!!! lol. I need to know though. Did your love gun still work during that lmao! Because if it did you cannot compare yourself to other mortals ever again lmao!
I have the luxury of running bloods whenever I want without cost due to my job, I rarely need to as most of the time I can feel my way through a cycles ups and downs.
Now!... thats what im talkin bout willis!!
I think most are forced too over here due to the difficulty of getting a blood test with the nhs situation etc. makes it more if a necessity to learn your body than just pile a truck load of compounds in hoping for the best.
RustyhookerWhat has never made sence to me is the guys that do suffer or claim to suffer estro issues. Not that they don't happen. But the following cycle they repeat or build upon their past failures. Like the hormones will react differently if they then add deca, drol and acne meds. There's low conversion cycles but it won't add that instant 35 lbs like the gym guru boast.
Thanks bro, you read out of that post the exact point i was trying to get across............ you know me so fkn well its like telepathy lmfbigassoff :)))
RustyhookerJust like TWINS!! Except I'm more like the Danny devito to your Arnold. Lol
Whats that........ 6.1... 5.4 lol........ suze is only 4.11 thats why we dont have many pics together, i either have to squat a foot + or suffer having my fkn head missing lmao!
RustyhookerLmao! My fiancé is 5-4 too. But when she's in heels, the slow dancing is great! Lol!
How far into your cycle are you?
started jan 16
My diet has been near perfect and i have made some good gains, but that number seems way too low to me for what i am on