posted Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:02
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HGH for muscle
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I'm getting a bunch of mixed reviews.. we all know HGH is great for fat loss, BUT if i increase dosage to say 5-8iu AND add test.. can i gain lean muscle?
now what about HGH alone -- can i still gain lean muscle?
I'm starting a cycle now.. been on HGH for 2 months (humatrope)
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now adding 500mg of test cyp. weeks 1-14
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winstrol orals 50mg day (weeks 4-10)
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anavar 50 mg a day ) week 8-14)
then PCT
any recommendations of this? good.. bad? reasons?
looking for lean muscle
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what do u suggest about /with the winny and anavar
im doing 500 mg of test cyp.. on wk 3
have winny tabs
just got 3 bottles of masteron (starting that tis week
anavar (save until end weeks
so hgh 5iu
test 500mg 1-16 weeks
masteron weeks 1-6
then have winy and anavar to decide on.. many are against both and orals bc of liver.. but i 'm going to do anavar def. the winny.. not sure about
looking for 100% LEAN muscle -- so you're right i think the test and hgh can produce 100% muscle.. even if its not a lot, thats fine.. as long as its a solid gain
thanks
i have 5 kits of pharm grade hgh left at 72iu a kit, starts with a Huma.....
obviously god stuff, do i take 5.4 iu or the 7.2 etc/
man i started to type and some how it got erased
cycle history
22 yrs old-- dbal only 22-30 e here and there
deca once
recently within last 2 years (tren with test) had to stop after 4 week bc night sweats wee so bad with the Tren hexa (by apha)
so moderate experience, I never planned out a good cycle with HGH and certainly never did a good (if any) PCT post cycle (i know stupid, but i never did)
so i do have some experience, but obviously no where near what others have done and no where near the time and knowledge i should have put in prior to do a good cycle... which is why i post here
products I have
test cyp
masteron (will have 30c by this week)
30 injections of winny (want to get rid of bc i have 100 of the 50mg winny pills coming in
350 tabs of Anavar
HGH as mentioned
as i'm having all the proper PCT shiped here as well.. clomi, hcg, nolv -- using whats recommended on this board and going to follow that
i'm open to suggestions with the gear i have
Liike i said i was planning on runnig the test and maybe winny tabs now, then switch over to anavar (and i could add masteron too)?
i'm open to your thoguhts -- as with everyone, i'm looking to build only lean muscle.. as long as a look good, not doing big heavy weights etc.. i'm doing whatever i need to to get in shape.. lean muscle, little water bloat
i do have some no name clen, but another board member suggest i stay away from clean
my stats are now posted but again
37/ 6 3 lean athletic build
230 lbs ish
BF guessing 15-20%.. think in 2 months i can get it down to 10-12% if i dieted and did buch of cardio
i'm open gents
thanks
bigwillymy friend HGH is the biggest myth the fitness world has today. more so are the dumb kids that think gh is the key theyv been missing. ( which has led to 1000s of Chinese fakes all over the globe ) used as an anabolic steroid growth hormone is trash.
understand that its not made with the purpose of body building in mind, its made for medical problems !! unless your going to run crazy amounts test along with insulin and thyroid drugs you wont be impressed. fyi......I don't recommend you run those drugs !!
I try to consider my gh as part of my every day life and take it as I would my one a days. 2/3 ius of real growth hormone is a fine dose for a healthy guy.
on HGH, again thank you
I have 5 more kits of pharm grade (72iu each) so i'll use them and I have 2 kits of Jins coming, so I think i'll be good for next 4-5 months.. then i'll take some time of the HGH
I'm currently only taking HGH and test now 400mg a week.. this week I may go to 600mg.. I have the anavar just sitting and the winny tabs are being shipped and I have winny injectable but reluctant to use so many shots --- what do you suggest I run with the Test? I can get Masteron inj too?
In my experience hgh alone is pretty much worthless for muscle gain. And I've ran some really high doses, 10ius for long periods of time and short blasts of 18-20ius. There's new medical studies surfacing on I believe it was 16 weeks on serostim at 18ius ed and hrthere was no increase in muscle. Granted these aren't bodybuildrs so the results aren't Icompletely applicable to use but stil in those dosages you would you would expect atleast a pound of two. But like I said in my experience it's been pretty mjch worhless, all the gains I've made can esskly be attributed the steroids I was running. But also my views on it are also based off when I was running generics, but high quality generics
So far that's my experience, but il rigjt now I'm experimenting with a new way of using it. Taking my entire dose rigjt before bed instead of split dosing during the day. As I'm sure you know we grow and recover when we sleep so hopefully by taking the lager dose befoe bed I'll have all that in my system when I sleep it'll provide some extra growth. That and along with the fact that I'm adding a decent amount of pharm grade gh to my generics. So will see how this works out.
So since you're running pharm grade it should have some synergy with the test. I would hope you get better results running 5-8ius of humas with a nice test cycle then without it. If not it's just a giant waste of money. Or an expensive way to stay leaner during bulk. Since my review is with basically all generics I wouldn't say take it with a grain of salt but don't take it 100%. Try it for yourself and compare it to cycles where you didn't use gh in those doses. For what it costs at those doses I would have some high expectations. But if it just keeps you lean even at those doses next time I would just run like 3-4 as you can achieve the same results bf wise with those lower doses.
so you would agree with 5-8iu's and some test? i can afford to take at that level for at least 3 months (bc its how much i have in stock now) then i can drop it down... or even stop for several months to a year and see how i feel
I would agree with this. You've got to run some pretty serious doses of high quality hgh to get any kind of noticeable muscle gain from it. Financially it doesn't really make sense.
what do you consider HIgh dose?
I had a guy comment that 5-7iu of pharm grade HGH is waaay to much for me (I have Humat****) if I can say the brand I use
only side I felt so far was hands tingling and getting light headache sometimes at night and sometimes in the am, but not sure if this is a result of the HGH or not
No, I'd be thinking higher dose. I'm not going to talk details as the reality is the big competitors run doses you wouldn't believe. Way in excess of what is talked about here.
Tingling hands, that will almost certainly be the hgh. Headaches, maybe, maybe not, difficult to pinpoint. Is your HGH dose too high for you? Acquaint yourself with the side effects of high dose hgh and if you're comfortable with those risks, then that's down to you.
For me, hgh only really seems worthwhile at moderate doses for condition and health benefits. In terms of building muscle, I'd spend the money on more meat at the butchers and run 4/5ius per day.
thanks, helpful