posted Tue, 10/18/2011 - 20:18
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generic blue tops from steroidxx ?
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Does anyone know if steroidxx's generic blue tops are ok, and whats your experience with them if so? It seems very cheap which kinda scares me. I am also about to start my 5 cycle of Sus450 and npp. I hear alot of people say its pointless to run hgh without test, well im running a 15 week cycle. How can it be pointless after my 15 weeks are up if your supposed to run it for atleast 6 months? Lat question is can I start the gh when I start cycle or should I let it build up weeks before taking cycle? Im new to hgh and apreciate the advice
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tread-mLet me start with the blue tops, blues are made by a thousand people so hard to say if your is quality and I have not used theres so cant help there. I do have a source here with confirmed kigtropin. At about 100 a kit ehealthpill if that helps. Ok as to all of your questions and I have gone over this extensively here in hgh forum but I'll hit it for you again. First up you should always put up your age and stats along witbh goals because these things are very different for every age group. So let me vo ahead and give you some general guidlines and answers and the n later you can come back with the items needed an d we can tweak to age and goal. Lets assume you are in good shape and young for the general here.....it is better if you could be on hgh at about 2 or 3 iu's ed for a period of time before cycle but not a must if you plan on running future cycles . Upon getting close to cycle one can begin to frontload the cycle with low mg's of prop as you ramp up hgb iu's going into cycle. You could begin 4 weeks before cycle and ramp up 1 iu each week so that by the time the actual cycle begins you are at les say 5iu's and stay there for the duration of the cycle. As the cycle ends you could do a 4 week taper with prop not only acting as a pct, even if you want a jump start at the end,and drop your iu's down each week as you did going into the cycle. This adresses your question about needing test while on hgh. The body has an axis, hpg loop, which includes growth and test. The axis itself will cause the body to discard any hormone it cant balance. So lets say naturally your body produces enougb test as a young person to balance 2 or 3 iu's of growth. What happens if you are not using any test off cycle and pop 5 iu's of growth. The body can balance 2 of that when compared to natural test production a d it will discard the remaining iu's. So the answer to your question is, you do need test at higher iu's but have enough test to balance and utilize smaller iu's in an off cycle mode given you are not 40 ish or above. So we stay around 2 or 3 iu's as a young person off cycle is the short answer...last question was , start now or later. I would wait at least 4 weeks for cycle so you can get it rolling in the system and ramp up a little as you bleed in and front load the cycle and even though you will not benefit from hgh as much this cycle you can run it all the way to next cycle and benefit much more on it....this does not address prop recommendation going in or coming out in terms of dosage but we need the things I asked for to help you specifically. Throw up stats, age and goals and we can go from there on our sust cycle....
I am 26yo, 6ft1 240lbs 18% body fat. I have done 5 cycles in the past few years last being test/tren. Im going to run,
Week 1-5 dbols (50mg per day)
Week 1-14 NPP100 (1.5cc eod = 525mg Per week)
Week 1-15 Sus450 (.75cc eod = 787mg per week)
(I will be running hcg and adex throughout, I have cabar and letro on hand if needed. I will be doing a classic clomid cycle.
I wanted to include the Hgh like this.
(1 week before cycle) 2ius per day
(week 1 on cycle ) 3ius per day
(week 2 on cycle ) 4ius per day and throughout
After cycle drop back down to 3ius for 20 more weeks.
I would have to take fri/sat off in order to make 2 kits last 36weeks. I know you can run it 7 days a week but for finacial reasons I was hoping to take off fri/say what do you think about this? Will this provide me with good gains. Do you think there would be much of a difference with my 15 week test cycle with the gh compaired to without.
My main goal is to bulk up. I want to be big, If I loose some BF that would be cool. I also have a stuborn shoulder injury that could benefit from the gh. But like I said I am mostly looking to gain mass muscle.
tread-mI dont have an issue with the hgh program there other than I would keep it longer and run it through your next cycle after thiks one. You will get much more benefit from the G on that next one. Just dont expect a lot more from the G in this early run. The most important thin when buhlking is packi g in the extra meat. The biggest benefit for you in the earlly run will be a larger production of ghrelin in the stomache allowing you to eat more. So will it help, if for that reason alone, yes. Hgh will take months to really see results such as for anti aging etc so given thats not what we're talking about I think the addition early is good. Seriously think of the longer run. I really would like to see it carried through a second cycle and then come off on a downward stair case if you wish. Not in love with the friday saturday off but I see your reasons. I would even consider tapering with prop coming off, maybe a longer taper and it would help with the hgh more as you come down and be a better post cycle anyway.