posted Mon, 08/01/2016 - 18:11
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caber and hgh
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What's going on,
Does anyone have experience running hgh and caber? I had some gyno symptoms when I started hgh and had to discontinue. Considering starting up again with caber. I read that it can lower gh and igf1 but dont have much data to back it up in otherwise healthy individuals.
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Check out this study:
http://m.eje-online.org/content/159/5/541.full
Granted, the dose was extremely high and the caber was to treat people whose pituitary gland secretes excess igf1.
Yes, I did. My estradiol was 28; testosterone 900+ (on a couple natural boosters); free testosterone 141; SHBG: 35; Prolactin: 6.6; Progesterone: .84.
I suspect it was the prolactin because it killed my libido and everything else is normal. The prolactin also tested normal but I had taken massive doses of mucuna pruriens, vitamin b6, and vitex days before the bloodwork and the gyno symptoms had subsided by then. I would rely on these natural aids, but chest pain always comes back when I resume hgh even while on them
bigmurphHgh is known to raise prolactin in certain individuals.
I haven't read that caber lowers gh or lgf1 I did a good amount of research on it. If you do find that it says that somewhere I would like to have the link so I could read it. Also blood work is crucial to avoid these situations because were reallyjust guessingwithout it.
Thanks good luck brother
AnonHave you had bloods done while on HGH to see what's causing the gyno symptoms , could be high estrogen or prolactin .
aasfreak69Yeah you really need to do blood work to see what is going on. Could be your estradiol or prolactin but you won't know without proper blood work. Your free test was only around 100 when your serum test was 900ng/mL? Your SHBG must be sky high. My free test was over 100 when my serum test was about 380 after coming off a cycle last October.
Check out the full post above, I posted several values. Free testosterone was 141; SHBG was 35. Taking some vitamins to lower SHBG. But based on the bloods and my experience, prolactin is the only likely culprit. It seems to go up and down with me based on what I'm taking.
aasfreak69It likely is. That's the thing about getting blood work done. It takes the guess work out of things. I would recommend you take 0.5mg of Cabergoline EOD if your prolactin is indeed high. The stuff wipes out prolactin and really helped me when I had some impotence issue while on tren and my prolactin was very high. The stuff works very well and not bad sides.
I've got some on the way. My biggest thing is that it doesn't interfere with the hgh, but I'll start at a low dose