+ 1 The "kids"
In no way do I want to disrespect people and I know its been said on here before but just have to chime in. WTF is going on with the 20-somethings out there? I am over 40 and did run my first cycle at 22 BUT when I did I literally had been lifting since I was 15 and I had a fucking BASE. I can remember back and people use to accuse me of it all the time anyway...because I looked like I fucking worked out. I am seeing more and more people that look like they have never been off a couch much less in a fucking gym. Shit, I can remember reading Arnolds Encyclopedia at 2am when I was 16 and trying everything under the sun from Hot Stuff, to smilax, to arginine and ornithine, as well as every weight gainer under the sun. This is exactly why this shit is illegal. Obviously its a very personal choice but I just wish people would put some time in first and at least get near their genetic potential before even considering this shit. Good luck.
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Several posts similar to this one today alone.When I started they didn't have this vast wealth of knowledge known as eroids.Hell they didn't have iternet.Yet they still ask stupid questions and wont listen to the answers.They already have there minds made up.Doesn't matter what we tell them their going to do it anyway.
tread-mThe wealth of info is part of the new problem. In our start days you had to dig and talk to everyone you could in the gym and work your way into the right circles. Today half the information on the net is a bunch of young guys posts that help confirm what they wanted to hear anyway. If you notice half the really young guys get very pissy when you don't come in and agree with their 3 compound stack, they never wanted help they just wanted people in the know to confirm their bad ideas. I do still think back on my first paydirt. I had already ran a couple test only cycles and had been trying to get to the gym about the same time this particular group did every day. Some guys I went to school with that were a little older than me and had blown up pretty nice over a couple years but real "to themselves". I just went in and busted my ass everyday wanting them to notice me and eventually hitting some bigger weight they would ask if I needed a spot on occasion. I knew it was coming and got more excited by the day and eventually knew them well enough to ask what it was going to take for me to get my hands on "the good stuff"? Lol...found myself out at this guys car with a pharmacy in the back seat and I knew I had fallen into something sweet. Started doing small stacks with primo and max with my test and fell in love. Still , it took hard work and a lot of persistence to learn my way and I had the patience to slow roll it to the paydirt. These guys on occasion see Cutler, hear what he runs and want his stack today. Never understanding the ladder has rungs, "I want it now" is the mentallity and it will produce many more failures than the era we came up in.
Yep, very dangerous to load up heavy with stacks until after the age of 24 when the bone plate growth finally shuts off. Scary dangerous. I can't see where just running some low amounts of TEST would hurt anything significantly, but stacking heavy mgs w/multiple roids..... dangerous to your body. Now that you mention it, I still have the copy of Arnies encylopedia that I bought in my late teen years.... still refer to it this day.
I agree diesel. Like I said I did run shit in my early 20's but it was only 8 weeks of sust and nothing else.