Help needed with running a blast.
hello everyone, just wanted a bit of cycle advice.
This is going to be my first cycle on HRT. Not my first cycle ever but i could use some advice from you pros on how to manage this with HRT.
I am currently running:
Oral Proviron- 25mg, daily
Oral Tbol-50mg, daily
Test cyp-200/week-HRT
Stanozolol 50 mg injection eod,
I will say that ever since i started this build about 10 days ago my energy is back! I feel so much better and am already toning up, probably lost about 4-5 lbs last 10 days. Diet is on target. Limited carbs, about 50 grams/day, lean proteins and veggies. Taking milk thistle and will be ordering liv-50 as soon as i can find someone who sell the shit in the United States, If there is a better liver protector please let me know!!
My plan is to exit the Cyp completely because i really don't get any results from it. I plan to add 125mg/ Sustanon/week (to start), wednesday or midweek do a 75mg/ shot of Super test (maybe 2 a week), continue on with the Tbol and Proviron at 25/50 mg a week and perhaps add hcg, 2x a week.
I want to run this cycle for a while and could use some advice on duration looking for maybe 2 months, could also use some advice on dosing.
being on HRT, i get a blood test about avery 6 months or so. Last test was 1300 for total testosterone but had shit energy and felt lousy while using it.
I want to be able to control the amount of testosterone i have in my system before a blood work like that so was planning to switch to Sustanon and instead use the SuperTest 150 for building.
Also taking finasteride-5mg daily and Synthroid-50mcg daily.
Here is the gear i have on hand and on order soon to be delivered;
I am currently using:
Winstrol-150mg/ml (about 5 cc's left) 50mg-injection EOD
Test Cyp,-200mg/ml _4-1cc vials; 100mg/ 2X week.
Oral Proviron 60ml-25mg/ml- 25mg daily
Turinabol-60ml-50mg/ml- 50mg daily.
Also running HGH-2 iu/day 5 days on, 2 days off.
Gear on order..
Clomid-50mg X 50 tabs
SuperTest-150 X 10 ml
Sustanon-250 X 10 ml
HCG, 5000iu X2 vials
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
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If you are on TRT you never have to worry about pct. When you are done with your blast all you have to do is revert to your original dose. Pct is basically for those that aren't on trt to restart themselves. Now if your Dr. proscribed you 100mg test a week and you are taking 200 a week, you really need to get your E2 levels checked. And when you do make sure its the "sensitive male assay" test and not the other one. Having your E2 levels will definitely make you sluggish. Also you said you've been on trt for about a year. Have you checked your hematocrit levels? Test basically thickens the hell out of your blood with red blood cells. which will also make you feel sluggish. Easy fix for that is to just donate blood a couple times a year. That will take care of it. Make sure you check soon if you haven't because if its too high the blood banks won't take it, then you will have to have a Dr. give you a therapeutic blood draw to lower your hematocrit levels. Cheers hope i was helpful
let me get this straight... you are cruising right now or want to?
You didn't get much from cyp? please explain why you think sust is going to be different ?
hrt doses are not run while you are on "blast" ...
Thanks for your response. I want to switch out and go on a blast with Sustanon, Supertest-Proviron-Tbol. I have ordered and will soon have clomid and HCG for aftercare.
I want to switch out my test-CYp-200/mg/week, to sustanon+supertest instead and keep the Tbol and Proviron running for the next 12 weeks. I want some good gains and leaner physique. Dump a bunch of fat and lose all the water. I would guess on blast/cruise, i would be wanting to start on a blast.. With HRT/TRT i am always on a very low level cruise. Have been on test replacement for over a year. Last levels came back at 1300.
I want to use the sustanon, as a base and use the SuperTest, as a blast while doing so. Adding HCG somewhere after..
This isn't my first stack.. I have run quite a few but stopped after having a really bad allergic reaction to the Deca from TTokkyo a little over 5 years ago. Wound up in the hospital for a 8 days on methylprednisolone. Sorry if i came of as a retard with a bunch of cash and no idea what he's doing...
That's totally wrong... i don't have that much cash...
So my goals are to drop fat, gain back my physique and increase my, "oh my god, look at that guy"-Potential.
All honorable intentions in my book.
So.. I will not be running the CYP while pushing Sustanon and Supertest. I am very interested in any and all advice for my ideas... Except "you suck, loser asshole..".. as i already get my full quota of that from my ex-wife... Thanks..
ok..lol.. I m not your ex so you don't have to worry about me calling you names..
first off the oh my god, look at that guy comes from diet combined with as simple a cycle as you can manage.... along with rest and training
a. don't cruise while you are blasting so what ever you plan to cruise on .. save it.
b. get yourself a good diet.. if you need help with that get yourself into the diet group there are quite a few good ones posted up and if you still need help after that you can pm me and I ll personally help you with the diet.
c. adding hcg "somewhere" eeeeeeehhhhnnntttt wrong answer. You need a definite plan for it or don't bother with it..
d. where is your ai? did I miss it?
e. diet .. diet ...diet.. the gear is a tool the diet and training are the means... when is the last time you changed up your training ?
Ha..
Thanks for you sense of humor..
I have dropped about 8-9 lbs over the last week and a half from titrating up my Tbol and Proviron (to 50/25mg each)carb/fat restriction. I am VERY disciplined on my diet (lately anyway) 50 grams of complex carbs-ONLY and the rest is lean protein 70%, veggies 20% (complex carbs 10%). I am prescribed 100mg/week of test CYP-i can take up to 200 as we are trying to get my testosterone level to 7-900 (dr.'s idea/900-1100 my idea).. So: Here is my plan.. Please feel free to critique and point out what i should also be doing. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE it. Thanks...
Here is my blast.
1-12 Tbol-50 mg/day+Proviron 25 mg/day. Sustanon 125/week+ Muta's Super Test 2x a week (150mg/ml-weekly dosage=1ml). Also already on Finasteride 5 mg and Synthroid 50mcg.
I will add HCG 2x a week after adding the dust and super test. Starting next week. and finishing up after 14 weeks with Clomid and HCG. Should i add Arimidex?
As far as training, i have been lifting since 1990-ex-military, served in G-1, G-2, iraq G-3 and Afghanistan G-4.
I got out in 2003 and haven't been the same since.
Body went to shit and i am finally climbing out of it..
Any advice is appreciated.
Here is my plan.
Hold Test Cyp for the blast... i think this is what you are recommending.
Start Sustanon, 125mg a week (monday)
Super test- 150 1/2 CC 2x/week.
Proviron+Tbol daily (25mg/50mg)
HCG, Monday+ Wednesday
Clomid 25mg daily starting after week 8 when my gains from t-bol slow down.
If you have any advice, i would greatly appreciate it!
Thanks...
And i am on a rocking diet... No CARBS!!! pretty simple.. lol
Thanks!!!!
Your tbol dosage is pretty low so running it the entire time while not optimal for an oral is "most likely" not going to be a problem but have you had your liver values checked lately?
You are blasting and cruising so no clomid.. if you are going to run a pct and come off completely then yes clomid/nolva/aromasin (there is a post on it by sexymexy-carlos danger??) on how to run it .. yes for ai during cycle even though you are on provi it compliments aromasin quite nicely ...
good for the diet .. when was the last time you changed your training routine?
Hello again, Hardbody.
I will admit that my training routine hasn't changed much over the past. I have been wanting to change it and was "given a great deal on some personal training sessions". I am thinking of going with the Escalating Density Training. Something i haven't done before. In that i am supposed to do the last 2 of 7 sets to failure. 1st week is 70% of original max- X 7 sets. 3rd week is 80% of original max, 7 sets, last 2 to fail. 5th week 90% of max, last 2 to fail. I want to try that.. What do you think? Do you have abetter training routine you might recommend? I did get suckered into a personal trainer when i signed up for LA Fitness in my area. I bought 20 sessions and am using them pretty well. Try to use 2 a week for the 3 last month for pushing through the wall.. I have just bought a bunch of clomid from A/N, so i don't real need it? Shit! should i keep the Tbol where it is for at least another 2 weeks or bring it up? I'm already starting to gain more muscle and lose water! I'm pumped! Seriously, you have no idea how good it feels to see definition again!!! lol... . i had a full blood workup done 2 days ago. Everything is normal, but i will have another set done in about another month. My Doc is NOT a fan of my doing what i am with AAS other than what he prescribes. Well, on that one we have to agree to disagree.
As far as Ai, do you recommend aromasin? How does it work well with proviron? skip the Clomid altogether? Ok on aromasin... I will get some.. is there a dose you recommend>?
5'10 currently at 225-230, about 25% Body fat. Feel much better after starting. was at a bit over 230 at the start..
thanks!
first read this if you are going to run a pct... otherwise, no you don't need the clomid.. give to a buddy or something .. .. http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-and-aromasin
run your aromasin 1/2 tab 12.5mg every other day ... the aromasin and proviron are complimentary ..
keep your tbol where it is ... patience is key this is the race the turtle wins not the hare.
if you are looking for something a bit different try a push day alternated with a pull day one muscle group per day take rest days as needed.. your body will tell you when you need to rest.. and google FST 7 training ... it stretches the muscle fascia for growth.. it is not necessary to use synthol with it .. however due to the intensity you should only use this on a push pull routine with one muscle group per day
Thank you!
I will. Push versus pull. I can easily work that in, chest/tri's Vs. Back/Bi's - pretty much my old routine.
I will look up FST training. I see a physical therapist anyway, so he can help me stretch fascia.
I will run aromasin 12.5 eod, Proviron, and Tbol will stay where they are. 20 weeks of fun reinventing myself. Is hcg ok here? I saw a Burst post that suggested 500iu/ weekly for the entire cycle. I am presently pushing as much as i can, with the help of the physical therapist and personal trainer i have pretty structured workouts and can have them work in the aspects you're recommending.
Diet and exercise, will be on point, that i can promise you.
So, Sustanon, 250- starting at 125/mg/week.
Super Test-150 2x week
Hcg 250iu, 2x a week
aromasin 12.5, eod.
Proviron-25mg. daily
T-bol-50mg/daily
Milk Thistle-e-day
NO Clomid- Dang. I could have used that for some aromasin lol.
and of course, pristine diet and exercise and rest.
Thanks...
hcg may be the difference in you feeling not so good and feeling better.. run it without first and see if it isn't necessary save it ..
i must sound like a total tool
ok so i don't absolutely have to start aromasin right away. I will order some and start with the HCG first. I will probably get the sustanon and Super test sometime next week so i have time to order and add aromasin. the Hcg is being delivered with the Sust and Super T. Until the delivery i am on the orals, T-bol and Pro-V, and the test-Cyp. I'll let you know how it goes. Or are you talking about not running the HCG first. I kind of wanted to run the HCG. Thought it would be the right way to go.
do what feels right .. how about that .. hcg is not a necessary.. you will live without the aromasin right away .. hcg gets over used for the wrong reasons however, if your fsh is low the hcg makes all the difference in the world .... low fsh mimicks estrogen issues.. I've been discussing it with someone else. I said don't start the hcg immediately because it would be nice to see how you do without it.
That's exactly what I neede to hear. Would a week separating adding arimidex, and then adding hcg be sufficient, or should I push it out to 2 do you think?
Hcg was something I was planning on running anyway but I think your idea might be better. I will keep you posted. Thanks...
wait at least two weeks
Holy cow fst-7 training sounds exactly like what I need! Thanks hardbody! I am going to start using it right away!
excellent ;-)
well, finished my first set of FST-7. At the end i couldn't lift more than 5 pounds and this was an upper body toning set.
You weren't kidding. Thanks for the Tip!
Do you have an AI?Such as arimidex or aromasin.
i have proviron, clomid, and Hcg. I'm also running permanently on Test.
Should i use an AI as well?
Yes.High estrogen could be the reason you are not feeling all that great on your hrt.Did you feel pretty good the first month or so of your hrt and then started feeling no better than before starting hrt?
when i was just using the Testosterone with the doc, i wasn't running any ai, or pct. The doc didn't feel it needed. Lately with the proviron and Tbol, i feel much better.
You wouldn't do pct on hrt.Have your estrogen levels been tested?The proviron and tbol don't aromatize and they both reduce shbg binding freeing up testosterone.
My doc did check estradiol and said it was within tolerances... I am looking to tune up and do.a.blast with the sustanon and super test.
I would definitely get an AI if your going to do a blast.
thanks... Arimidex? Nolvadex?
Sorry for the late response.I prefer aromasin.
Hey bro,
So i ordered aromasin, will be taking it eod at a 12.5 in addition to the t-bol and proviron once it shows up, maybe in another 4 days. I'm going to have a full blood workup soon. Excited to see the results. Thanks for your help!