posted Wed, 04/24/2013 - 16:59
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Just curious as to whether anyone had gotten their bloodwork done while using other steroids but still only on their prescribed dose test and if your Dr could tell?
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I was running Proviron, Test no ester, and Tren A over the top of my prescribed 200 mg every 2 week Test C. I cut out the TNE the day before my blood test, kept running the proviron and tren and the doctor did not find anything but test.
Interestingly, my total test was low, but free test was in the high end of "normal." Thank you Proviron!
This was Kaiser, and they never run any extra tests unless they absolutely have to, so they don't check E2 or prolactin when checking Test levels. A less "cost conscious" organization might though.
I've been on TRT for years and get bloods 2X/yr. If I do run long esters, I do it right after bloods, but usually run fast esters that way you can clean out in under 2 weeks. If you learn the half-life on esters it is easy to manipulate the blood work. I've done that to get my TRT dose upped. Matter of fact I have some of my labs posted on my profile, trust me bro, the baselines are all manipulated.
what region of the US are you in i am looking for a lab locally and am also looking to get into an endo my gp does my trt now and he is less than enthusiastic i started at a 38 and he got me to a 280 and said that looks good ... LOL i started buying gear and self treating and its amazing the difference in how i feel i would just rather get the treatment i should from my insurance ... so i am looking for a local lab or a mail order lab to do the bloods so i can track me and plan my dr visits at the low points without guessing if i am gonna get found out .. i am in midwest near Chicago
How's it coming with finding a lab bro? I've been doing a little research and there are quite a few (seem reputable) mail order labs online that are registered with the BBB.
I just friend requested you PM me n ill get w/ next time i log on bro!
just a question but how old was u when u started your trt
38 bro.
I started when I was 28 I had very low t 186 I just wondered if u might have been like me. The age you started seems normal but I guess that's just the way it is for me then lol. thanks bro for responding back
Yeah bro I figure I should have gotten on at around 34, but with the VA you have to be under 300 which is 100 ng/dl lower than any other dr. I hovered right above 300 for years, good old tren ace shut me down low enough that my dr. was forced to do something.
I don't know what shut me down. I never took gear until I was found to have low test. I then said hell if im already low I might as well run cycles lol. I have heard people say on here that 19 nors can mess ur test up for life even if you do a good pct.
Anything's possible brutha, everybody metabolizes things differently. I'm lucky enough not to get bad sides from 19nors, but it will definitely shut you down temporarily enough to show low T.
I'm on trt test cyp. I took tren and my doctor flamed me after blood work. He told me not to come to his office for two months. They can tell some will care and some will shrug it off. You should be worried about the doc that shrugs it off. Remember your doc is a partner in health. Tell him to keep your conversations between you too. Not to tell the insurance etc
Assuming you are in the USA, you cannot expect that level of confidentiality from your MD. Your MD is free to communicate with, and is many cases required to divulge information to everyone on the "Treatment Team." This includes nurses, consultants, billing clerks, Quality Assurance staff, and YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY to name a few.
If you read all the fine print in your insurance policy, and in the HIPPA "Privacy Statement" from your MD's office that you no doubt signed, you will find that you gave permission, or at least understand these limits on confidentiality and do not object.
great question!! I've been wondering about this myself! I'm a new TRT guy. I am only 33...new to the game!! lol
Best to get off everything for a month or so before the bloodwork so the doc's wont suspect anything. Doc's can be very picky when perscribing test, and if your E2 numbers are off they are goign to want to put you on a low dose so not toraise your E2
Another option is to pay $50 for a privatemd bloodwork so you can be sure there is nothing suspect in your bloodwork.
If you are not looking for a scrip be totally honest with your doc with what you are on.
testaholicI guess i should've specified. I already have my script. He knows I'm into body building and that I fucked myself by staying in too long and that's why he writes for me.
I just don't want my shit to be crazy high when I get new bloodwork. I haven't heard much about other steroids effecting your levels....
If you are already on trt then the only thing that might show other substances than test would be progesterone and or prolactin. Not likely he will test for that. The trt will already shut down your natural test production so your LH and FSH will be low anyways and not alarm him that you are shut down.
Prami/ caber can fix the prog/prol levels if they are raised
testaholicThanks bro. This is the response I was looking for
I would assume that a doctor would not know because they only test for estrogen, test, thyroid etc, they do not test for other anabolic steroids. They may speculate that you are using another steroid from your test/e2 ratio though. Too high e2 can indicate aromatisation from increased testosterone, too little testosterone can indicate a suppression perhaps due to the use of other steroids. I hope this makes some sense to you, bro.