posted Mon, 08/27/2012 - 08:39
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Do i need AI on sus 250 and d-bol course
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Years ago when i was in my 20s i used to use AS which consisted of d-bol sus,all the injectables and never did pct or anything like that.Now im older and maybe wiser i will be doing a sus and debol cycle.could you tell me if i need to take anything whilst on the cycle and what pct i would need after cycle is finished.I ran a course of T bullets 6 months ago with no issues,apart fro feeling a bit rough, after the cycle i used esto suppress which the gym owner said would be ok.
cheers mick
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You should def play with the levels your own body is good with. For ex: I know I run more than 600 mg sust and my body starts an estrogen conversion. I no this cuz my nipples enlarge and I get emotional and cry on a damn mc Donald's commercial. If I just brace myself for a week, drop the levels the conversion subsides. On deca I've run it up high and own low and saw no strength improve at high levels so I stay low where I see the improvements. The first time I ran sust alone I did no pct, came off abruptly, then after 10 days did 100mg pin, I was fine. I don't think I'm the norm tho.
I may get eaten alive for this but I run sust/deca or sust alone and have never run a PCT. I taper the sust and only run about 600mg tops, my natural unsupplmented state is an above normal test, maye that's why I've never crashed. I subscribe to less is better so if you can get by with no PCT then that's what I do. Having said that I always have clomid or a little test to pin up.
Gotta be responsible to the readers sir. This forum is read by everyone. Your case is very rare.
Yes Sir You need AI while on a steroid cycle. Dbol highly converts to estro. Preach/Live responsibly
Fast48, I think if you read my post I noted I am not the norm. I think it important to understand the norm and the extreme datapoints, I think I also said you need to play with your own body to see how it responds. I believe that was all entirely responsible and therefore your comment was unncessary.
Sorry bud but this page is open to thousands of readers daily. Advising that no ai or pct is used for the normal person isnt responsible to anyone. TRT guy dont need the clomid but they still use either adex or aromasin to maintain their muscles and not hard crash with an estrogen spike.
Hello massive48 i realise i need clomid and nolva im just wondering if HCG is need,
cheers
Why WOULDNT YOU BRO?!?!
Look Research and then do some more research, OH &then do some MORE RESEARCH and you will see why u will always need an AI&post cycle therapy when ur running any steroid compounds!
sorry yeh its prescription only,ill try sort some.
cheers
You really should NOT cycle til you've researched enough to know exactly why this post and your replies suck! You're gonna hurt yourself.
STATS? AGE? CYCLES....like that even applies here....
I understand what you are saying,have AS changed from when i did them 20 years ago.I understand the need for pct,i just need some advice thats why i have asked the question.Im 5.11 200 pounds been back at the gym for about a year im 43 and have done As before but this was 20 years ago.Im just asking for a bit of advice.
Go thru all the forums and read up. Lots of good changes.
why do you use HCG,do i need to use it.Are the doses of pct every day over a period of 4 weeks.Can Aromasin be bought of the net or from same place i got AS.
thanks for the replies
Serious??
Sorry yes back in the day stuff like liver support and pct didnt exist not for me anyway,Ill have a search
Yes anytime dbol is in the picture you will need an AI at one point. You prolly should never be without it at least stashed away. Easier to prevent sides than it is to reverse them. Aromasin 6.25 eod is a starting point. U gauge the symptoms after a wk or two and adjust the dosage. For me i need a higher daily dose but essentially u want to run the lowest possible dose that works for u. PCT is a standard clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. HCG either on cycle or PCT. On cycle would be 250iu 2x a week or PCT hcg use would be @ 1000iu eod foe the first two weeks.