posted Thu, 10/17/2024 - 13:24
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Will You be Getting the Covid Vaccine/Booster this winter?
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With Covid on the rise again along with various other things, will you be getting the Covid Booster or first Jab this winter?
Interested to see how many get immunised nowadays - Let Battle commence!!
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Uhh Ohh - Not so great news for people who have had this Brand of Vaccine like me LOL
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14915995/pfizer-covid-va...
Get ready baby - She's coming:
Shock Covid warning: Ultra-catchy 'Nimbus' variant could trigger summer wave amid 97 per cent infection surge
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14787409/Covid-warning-Nimbus...
Many people in the health care field don't really have an option in regards to this. I also highly recommend for elderly anyone with comorbidities to get the vaccine, as the reaction from Covid can cause an inflammatory response that exacerbates those other comorbidities. Always recommended for everyone, but you can't force it you know.
NAC / Lysine / Garlic / High dose Vitamin C / Glutathione
you will be an immune powerhouse
Liposomal D3 with K2 and Liposomal Vitamin C. Take NMN not Glutathione.
I won't but last year that bit me in the ass on vacation in the DR. Spent 5 of 7 days curled up in bed sick as hell
Did you get lungs full of thick mucus that you are permanently coughing up and choking on? I honestly found that worst part of many horrible symptoms, at times I was struggling to get food down as mucus was always coming up the other way lol
You have to get into fasting (water) or all citrus cleanse
I have had it three times, the first was the worst, the second was very mild but this third time last winter was almost as bad as the first time. I completely lost my voice for a day or two but the fever was the worst part. The coolest our room would get was probably 75 degrees and I was covered up and shivering painfully anyway lol. Then the night sweats and painful shits. It truly sucked and unlike Mexico where there is a pharmacia every couple hundred feet in the DR you have what you have
The part that got me was the aching turning spin feeling and fever that didn’t budge call we had in jail was alkasetltzer
I had covid twice very mild both times.. never even got the first covid vaccine. let my body build a natural immunity. I've been in direct contact with 2 people who have had it since then and i haven't gotten it again. I won't ever get that vaccine.
Plain and simple, we survived these but the vaccine has killed many. Enough said.
Yeah, yeah - you can be all blasé about it now but I remember you were crying like a Baby when you had Covid
Nah not me. It wasn’t great, but I’ve had colds that put me down harder.
I did both doses, plus the booster. It would have been a requirement for my job anyway. I won't be doing more though. They wanted me to vaccinate my kid at her pediatric appointment. It was a hard pass for me.
My vaccine is injected bi-weekly, 250mg at a time.
That dose isn't high enough to protect you LMAO
Lmao, touche’. You’re right. Child’s play.
It is if you add npp and masteron, to be sure 100% I’d add Dianabol for the first 4-5 weeks.
I’m a yes. I’m not overly concerned for myself but I am a residential construction contractor and meet with 15 - 20 clients a week in their homes. I would say at least 1/3 fall into some type of elevated to high risk category and I don’t want to risk unknowingly bringing something into their home that could kill them.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/TqfjXKQruRdJgvan/?
We may be better off without the masks, check your boxes lol
Link:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00768-4/fulltext
”This study showed that the impact of vaccination on community transmission of circulating variants of SARS-CoV-2 appeared to be not significantly different from the impact among unvaccinated people.”
I personally believe the vaccine has some positive uses and saved lives…..but “the unvaccinated is gunna kill grandma” was moreso fear mongering (propaganda) The Vaccinated could/can still spread the virus
Merriam-Webster revised its "vaccine" definition to replace "immunity" with "immune response." The change also addresses the new technology of mRNA vaccines in light of the COVID-19 pandemic.
In every study done by vaccine companies they came to the conclusion that you can't make a vaccine for any coronavirus. So any vaccine made for the flu, cold, or covid19 can't work because they're all a coronavirus. And the covid 19 vaccine removes antibodies. So if anything you're worse off getting the vaccine.
The only thing good about the vaccine is that it's mainly democrats who get it so they can all get sick and die for all I care.
This is so far from correct. Influena and Rhinovirus are not "a coronavirus." "Removes antibodies"??? What studies have you been reading?
It still mutates too quick for a vaccine and yes covid vaccine removes covid antibodies. That's why you couldn't donate antibodies if you've had the vaccine.
Thos vaccines have proven infective over the last 80 years, they're not going to magically start working now under an emergency act.
I'd love to see the study that the COVID vaccine reduces the antibodies acquired from infection. Not calling you a liar. I'd genuinely like to read it. I assume those are the antibodies you're referring to. The mutation of the virus was/is irrelevant to the efficacy of the vaccine. mRNA carries information from DNA to ribosomes to synthesize proteins.
The idea with the vaccine is that the protein synthesized is the "spike protein" that allows COVID to gain entry to the host cell. By the vaccine producing said spike protein you (in theory) develop the antibodies without the infection. How it has been proven ineffective over the last 80 years is intriguing considering it was the first of its kind and the science doesn't even go back 80 years.
To my recollection it was the media that said the vaccine would make you immune and people (mostly Democrats) ran with it. We were told it would reduce our chances of hospitalization, not result in immunity. As time went on, I realized my demographic was highly unlikely to be hospitalized anyway. The vaccine does lack long-term study and therefore I will not be getting it again because the risk outweighs the reward. Studies still show that it does, however, result in the production of antibodies. It's level of efficacy?!?! PubMed says it is, but idk...
Like many vaccines the COVID vaccine triggers an autoimmune response. That was/is the only time/reason you could not donate blood post vaccination to my understanding. The therapuetic antibodies used for treatment of COVID were/are monoclonal antibodies and lab-made. That's why the therapy was limited in the heart of the pandemic. Unless I'm mistaken (which I may be), none were acquired/harvested from blood transfusions of those previously infected with the virus.
Conflating the flu and the common cold with COVID is pretty far off. I don't believe vaccine mandates. I think people have a right to choose. The Influenza vaccine is indeed only roughly 40%-60% effective (according to the last CDC report I've saw which was awile back) based on mutation of the virus. The pneumococcal vaccine and influenza vaccine, even with that variance in efficacy legit save lives when looking at our elderly and immune compromised populations.
I'll bow out to the COVID vaccine, but the fall out from it has led to a lot of anti-vaccine bullshit. Look at the average lifespan prior to the development of vaccines. I'm not trying to stir shit up with you brother. It is just one of my pet peeves. Misinformation spread as fact is dangerous. If I'm coming off as condescending, my apologies. I feel strong on the subject and I am not trying to be insulting. Text loses context and inflection.
This is a fair perspective, but I think the correlation between life span & vaccines is tenuous at best. There have been so many advancements in knowledge & lifestyle in the past many decades that it wouldn’t be possible or even responsible to attribute that to the ever increasing vaccine schedule. This is the very reason autism has yet to be accepted as a result of a heavy vaccination program (although the data is pretty clear, from where I’m at. I believe in the next couple years, more will come to light about the role of improper vaccination protocols).
You seem to be very Pro vaccine. When they first started pushing vaccines on the public they kept getting sued from vaccine injuries and they weren't doing very well. They had to get special protections that Ronald Reagan gave them so that they have a different classification. So if you wanted to sue a company you had to go to a court controlled by them and it was actually very hard to prove after Reagan gave them protection. If a product needs special protections like that and also if you say anything negative about it online it gets removed it's probably a piece of shit.
I may not be big on the COVID vaccine, but yes, I am otherwise very pro-vaccine. I think it's naive to not be. With that said skepticism is a good thing. We should always make informed decisions and question/consider what we put in our bodies. Today, vaccine injuries are extremely rare, but they do indeed still exist. Again, comes to risk v. reward for that specific individual. I do think SOME protections should be in place. I equate it to good samaritan laws. Intent should be considered. However, studies should be unbiased, vetted, and scrutinized far more before release for human use.
Pharmaceutical companies should definitely be held accountable when they're knowingly releasing pharmaceuticals to the public that they know to be harmful. I won't argue that our system is flawed and certain things get swept under the rug for profit. I'm going to have to look more into the research behind the idea of the mRNA flu vaccine. ...but, current Influenza vaccines are not mRNA vaccines and if you dive into it further you'll understand why they're not 100% effective, but to say they're not effective at all is mistaken. But hey, if you're healthy and don't think you need it all the power to you. I'm not hating on that.
Lets take the influenza and COVID vaccines off the table though. To be anti-vaccine?? If you step on a rusty nail you're not going to get a tetanus shot? You randomly get bit by a feral rodent you're not going to get a rabies shot? That's literally the basis for fuck around and find out. I'll tell you I've seen a handful of anti-vaxx parents in cases that their children contracted an illness that could have been avoided with vaccination, they've ALL, from my recollection, wished they would have done it after the fact.
No it's actually the opposite. It's not normal for this many kids to have heart problems or blood clots. I don't know anyone who died of COVID but I know a few that did from the vaccine and many others who were injured.
But they are not held accountable at all
Most vaccines are not very effective and the covid vaccine harmed people and prevented nothing other than common sense.
Well then any day now Amish and Mennonites communites are all going to drop dead right because they never get vaccines? Actually no, they suffer the least from pretty much all disease and their rate of autism is ZERO. Can vaccines work? Yes when they are made from the same antibodies from people who survived the disease, but too bad none are made that way.
I'm surprised you did not bring up the polio vaccine being great and ignore all the kids that were actually getting sick from DDT pesticides being sprayed on them at the time. Or the fact that polio and many other vaccines were and are contaminated from SV40 and gave cancer to a lot.
You can't use the COVID vaccine as a comparison for all other vaccines. Blanket statements are often the result of either ignorance or unfounded bias. Until the COVID vaccine, yes, vaccine injuries are/were extremely rare. I'm not denying that there appears to be a clear correlation between vaccine related complications resulting from the COVID vaccine. That is why I won't be getting it. The risk outweighs the reward. My argument is that vaccines (for the sake of our conflicting argument, we will say OTHER vaccines), in general, are effective and even the COVID vaccine DOES result in antibody and temporary resistance (not immunity) to the virus. I'm sure you can look up the studies yourself that support this. There are many.
I like the strawman with the whole Amish, Mennonite, and Polio thing. I'll save those for another day. Although many vaccines are derived through the process you're roughly referring to, many are not, and still extremely effective. Again, you can't make blanket statements based on personal bias. I do believe you should have a choice for yourself and your kids. You don't want them, don't get them. There are plenty exemptions out there. I just think you should make an educated decision. There are plenty of vaccines I dont think my kid needs and there are many I have no hesitancy getting. The same goes for me. To each their own, but to compartmentalize all vaccines due to one is irrational.
The flu vaccine has been around at least 80 years and they've been trying to produce an mRNA vaccine for about 60 years and the MRNA vaccine has failed all its trials every time they tried to bring it to market. They only came out with mRNA vaccine this time through emergency use. So to think that the MRNA vaccine now has a 100% effective rate like they claimed after being a piece of shit for so many decades is very laughable. Like yeah this time it works when it's an emergency use and had no testing before it was released to the public.
I seen so many fat and unhealthy people who do zero exercise and take no vitamins and eat like shit get multiple covid vaccines. It's like yeah that's not going to help you get healthier.
I don't know what the presumptive MOA for an mRNA influenza vaccine would be. For the COVID vaccine it was specific to the "spike protein," which is not a characteristic of the flu virus. The flu and COVID viruses are not structured the same. So, just because an mRNA vaccine was less effective with one virus, doesn't mean it would be equally less effective with another. I need to read more on the research and development of a flu mRNA vaccine. My biggest concern and skepticism with mRNA vaccines in humans is more focused on the potential long-term complications; opposed to thier efficacy (or lack thereof).
Read more research?
Imagine defending a product that is so shitty it requested special protection from the government so it would not be held liable for all the harm it causes. And its also such a big piece of shit that people have to be coerced into taking it or else their kids can't go to school and they can lose their jobs. And if you have anything negative to say about that product in a negative way you will be censored.
My kid is not required to take the flu shot to go to school. I don't know of anyone's kids are. On that same note, I don't know anyone who's kid was required to get the COVID shot to go to school either. You keep conflating influena with COVID-19. You're comparing apples to oranges. Again, I'm not condoning government mandates.
They just require about 300 other vaccines
Actually when I say vaccines, I'm talking about vaccines. And you keep defending something that would not even exist if it were not for it's special protections. Drugs don't have the protections vaccines have so they can't be as terrible as most vaccines or else they get pulled. The same way other countries have pulled vaccines we still use here in the USA.
My bad, I must have misunderstood. I thought you were referring specifically to the COVID vaccine because you had stated that vaccines can work and then on the other hand stated they're all bullshit. Well, regardless, I'm not going to sway you brother. As strongly as I feel on the subject, I know people on the other side feel just as strong. Hopefully people do their own research and make their own informed decision whatever it may be.
If I look at groups of people who are vaccinated vs groups who are not vaccinated. I'd rather have the health and non neurological side effects of the groups who aren't vaccinated.
It's not even close, groups who aren't vaccinated are way less fucked up health wise.
Alright man. I'll bite. I'm not that hard headed. I find it hard to believe thay they were able to acquire that information and find a positive correlation to vaccines specifically. I feel a lot of the stuff you've mentioned is the result of the poison they call food these days that's outlawed in most first world nations. Regardless, I think we're friends on here. If you have some time and want to DM me some credible sources supporting your statement, I am willing to read them with an open mind.
The stupidest thing vaccine companies say is that their vaccines have a safe level of mercury and aluminum in them. There is no safe level of aluminum and Mercury especially when you inject it into your bloodstream and you're not just eating a can of tuna. Also you're not just getting one vaccine throughout your life I'm not entirely sure but kids get dozens of vaccines by the time they're adults. And aluminum Mercury do not leave your body easily or without help.
Look man, we're not going to agree on this. Not all vaccines use asjuvants. However, you consume more aluminum salts in your diet than what is in vaccines... by a hefty amount in fact. I can argue your point of it still being worse because it is injected "into your bloodstream," but why bother at this point?!
Thimerosal has been pretty much fazed out for sometime now, but again, you've probably consumed more mercury eating sushi. I'll bend the knee that it would be ideal to rid vaccines of these types of adjuvants all together. Hopefully the science gets there one day.
Vaccines can work, but the ones they make and require everyone else to take are crap. And the covid vaccine is actually the worst one ever brought out and given to the public.
You must live in a red state
Yes, thankfully.
Well the flu vaccine is not effective at all and the covid 19 vaccine has negative effects so you're worse off getting it.
"Since the emergence of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant, multiple observational studies have reported negative vaccine effectiveness (VE) against infection, symptomatic infection, and even severity (hospitalization), potentially leading to an interpretation that vaccines were facilitating infection and disease."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10040347/
You’re spot on with everything and you’ve obviously done your research. You won’t get anywhere going back n forth with brainwashed people. It typically takes something drastic that happens to them personally for them to open their eyes. The whole vaccine/covid topic has so much information out there supporting what you’re saying so people can educate themselves if they care enough too. It’s painful to listen to someone repeat the lies we have been told our whole life especially when they won’t even listen to an ounce of truth and start to question anything. Thankfully Covid did break many free from the trance they were in but clearly many are still stuck.
Cherry picking out of literally thousands of studies; both foreign and domestic studies for that matter. The science is there man, but it's cool, I'm the brainwashed one just because I can be a skeptic without wearing a tinfoil hat at the same time. I'm all for people who don't want them to not get them. I feel most still will. My word sure isnt't the gold standard. People can do the research themselves and either agree or disagree. You do you...
lol the science is there man…. I mean yes absolutely if you’re saying science supporting what 87 and myself are saying. Literally all it is is lack of time researching. Maybe it’s because you don’t want to face the truth or simply don’t care enough. You saying the things you are clearly shows you have more reading to do. I can understand those vaxxed and boosted not wanting to seek the truth because then you will live in fear of turbo cancers, myocarditis, blood clots the list is very long actually. It’s scary to face and I 100% understand . The many things our government had to walk back about the vaccine didn’t make you question it at all? You weren’t like huh why did they lie about that and then lie about other things.. that doesn’t make you question anything?
....okay, guy. It's a worldwide conspiracy. It's not my government or big pharma I trust, it's the thousands of doctors and scientists that I trust. Every amount of research you hit me with, I guarantee there are hundreds refuting it. I'm sure you'll say they're ALL sponsored by big pharma. Hey, you're right though. They're all in on it. First world problems... people turning anti-vaxx and people line up in other countries hoping there is enough for them. It's cool though. We're all the dumb ones.
I'm not arguing the cases of myocarditis and blood clots thing with the COVID vaccine btw. Again, lack of research into a vaccine that is the first of its kinds to be released to humans for emergency use. I got it initially because of my job and I partially fell into the fear mongering that it would somwhat allow the society to go back to normal. I won't be getting it again. Risk vs. Reward. My point about the COVID vaccine was not dismissing the potential complications caused by it. To say vaccines are bullshit though??? ...I'll take my chances.
For every thousand doctors and scientists supporting what you say, there are a thousand doctors and scientists going against what you say. Using that argument is the actual cherry picking. You get info from the sources that tell you what you want to believe and label anything going against that as bullshit.