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A table of users with more than 8 reviews written in a running year
| User | Reviews | Status |
|---|---|---|
| Matthew4567 | 13 | Banned |
| asidphreak | 12 | Active |
| Milkshake7272 | 11 | Active |
| DelicateE | 11 | Active |
| haapinessgains | 10 | Active |
| TStark1 | 10 | Active |
| Trinitykiller69 | 10 | Banned |
| ThundaWunda | 10 | Active |
| Villa52 | 10 | Active |
| Tat2man | 9 | Active |
| 1waytickettogains | 9 | Active |
| Senshi47 | 9 | Active |
| Cloudy | 9 | Active |
| nails337 | 9 | Active |
| selfster19 | 9 | Active |
| bgonz174 | 9 | Active |
| carolinehernandez013 | 9 | Banned |
| TestingInProgress | 9 | Active |
| Dkoon211 | 9 | Banned |
| pocketaces | 9 | Active |
| Fra22 | 9 | Active |
| Roastbeast86 | 9 | Active |
| Goodfella1118 | 9 | Active |
| Treninator | 9 | Active |
| MEXVOL | 9 | Active |
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The rolling year he speaks of goes from Jan 22/2021 to Jan 21/2022, tomorrow it goes from Jan 23/2021 to Jan 22/2022, in other words it is exactly the full 12 months backwards from today, the only ones who seem to not get this are the promo whores ,..... and you.
Oh yes, one other thing,....-1
Oh wow -1 karma. Call your buddies keep subtracting you could of explained the rolling year instead of stealing karma no !!!!
AnonI've lost a lot of karma from posting names here and calling out fake accounts. BFG made a post about one event where 2 members were pussy negging me while I took on a guy who had an army of fake accounts pussy negging me. Those 2 members got temp banned and the fake account guy got 15 or 20 accounts he used for promos banned. The fake account guy would max out his negs on me (I think 20 in 24 hours) then log into another fake account and mass neg me again. I lost maybe 100 karma that day. I didn't get it back. That's just one day. BFG has since changed things so brand new accounts can not give or take Karma until they've earned a certain amount of Karma. I've exposed a lot of fake accounts and whores. And I been pussy negged a lot for it too, hundreds of times probaly. So what. At least these guys only hit you once and explained. You're well liked and in good standing around here so no worries.
Step back from the Tren. There was no justification for your snark even if you had been correct in your assumption.
Greg when I started writing reviews years ago the limit was 10 a year. I specifically asked about it. Even before I knew what a promo was I was using enough gear that I’ve had to count my reviews a time or 2. Now it’s 8 in a “rolling year” and 10 being your “hard limit” why did I automatically lose all my karma? That’s 8 years worth of honest reviews, IGF tests, sending gear to Jano to get tested, competing in the EBC, just gone for 1 review over your new limit, a rule you guys recently changed? I also didn’t take into consideration the rolling year aspect. I thought 2022 was a new year therefore we go back to zero. The current top 4 sources all messaged me several times within the last couple years asking if I wanted to join their promo. Some I accepted some I did not. A lot if not most of my reviews are for gear I bought. I spend thousands of dollars a year with the sources on here. Granted last year I lost my job because my position was dissolved by the new company that bought us when Covid was bad. It put in a huge bind and I’ve had to relocate, start a new job and basically start all over. I did accept more promos than I ever have last year but I also tried to abide by what I thought were the rules. Is this Promowhore label something set in stone or can you accept my apology and I take it a lesson learned? I’ve always done honest reviews and been straight up with you guys.
You're at nine now and if it wasn't for the six or so reviews you've done in the last two and a half months you might have been one of the exceptions.
After all the posts I've made about not creating Frankenstein cycles with promo gear you're going out and doing just that.
Come back to the forums, you'll make your karma back soon enough, it's not the end of the world. You can change your avatar at any time and only need to wait until a few reviews drop off.
There is no requirement that you review paid for orders, while you wait. No matter what the source asks of you.
The rolling year has always been the case, no changes there. The eight to ten count has always been there, but until the promo abuses there was little need to enforce it.
In your own admission, due to "circumstances beyond your control", you've been over doing it on the promos.
RustyhookerThis whole page explains a year...or rolling year. As the date rolls/changes, 1 review might drop off and person is in safe zone.
Usually youre a chill cat but im sensing tren biting your ass. Relax bro.
Anonhttps://www.eroids.com/users/lunatic1987
8 reviews for 7 different sources in the last 6 months. All his reviews are for promos. All his gear pics are for promos. And he is currently trying to join another promo.
Rustyhooker12?
https://www.eroids.com/users/boa
Actually it's 13,.......... with short stature comes short fingers, quite understandable. Carry on.
RustyhookerWifey moved the phone book and now seeing over the keyboard sucks....
OMFG LMFAO
RustyhookerStruggle is real....haha
Rustyhooker@Nenedemoda if youre gonna keep trolling and negging then things here will get funky really quickly
Thumbs upping and re-thumbs upping your promo whore reviews just draws more negative attention.
AnonHe pussy negged my newest review still mad about me posting his name in here. Then I tagged him in comments under the review calling him out. He responded claiming it was a mistake and talking shit. A fake account also commented under my review saying I was going to be murdered while walking to my car. Mod or Admin cleaned up the comments and it looks like they stripped Nenedemoda of his karma again since he was using it to pussy neg. Now some other brand new fake account made tonight is talking shit under my review.
It's all good. When you write an honest bad review, help expose fake accounts and get them banned, and post whore names in here that then lose all Karma...well when you do that, you can expect some hate.
RustyhookerCat n mouse.
There are some interesting suggestions here for sure.
I wonder why guys with less than 7 karma can thumbs up or down. They need to have alittle karma first cause apparently spme cant handle the responsibility to do things right
It is like the participation trophy, in kids sports.
People sometimes need to be told they suck
Single white male here, 31 years of age, some women have said I resemble a second cousin of Nicolas cage not to toot my own horn or anything. Just been real tense lately and looking for a release. Got a long dick and eat ass. Hmu
Edit: ermm.. think I misunderstood the title. Wrong forum. Carry on
RustyhookerHahaha
Anon8 reviews in less than 12 months and trying to join 3 currently ongoing promos.
https://www.eroids.com/users/joeyv
Anon@JoeyV now trying for 4 promos. And flipped out when I politely gave him a heads up on the newest promo he's trying to get.
8 + 4 = 12 reviews. And his last 3 reviews since Oct 2021 are for 3 diffrent sources and say promo in the first sentence.
Anon@JoeyV is now @Maximus13
And trolling for a month solid. He hasn't admitted he was wrong or apologized. He just blames me for what Admin or Mod did to him.
I think its clear he as addiction to being a whore
If you all want to rediscuss the limits, I'm open to suggestions.
Many years ago... (gather close children as I tell you a tale of a time that happened long, long ago, before promos).
Excessive reviews were skewing the ranking system. On the back end, BFG set a policy where votes drop after 6 months. On the front end all who were members at the time had a voice on how to limit reviews to prevent rouge members pumping a source.
eRoids is not about cruising and unhealthy choices.
Looking at short and long cycles, plus time off for proper PCT, the question was, how many cycles can safely be done each year? Two, three? four really short cycles? So, let's say four and double that.
Eight reviews per year. That should cover the cycles and have plenty more for one off's that a source might not carry such as PCT gear, HGH, men's health meds. That is (or was) a very generous allotment to help keep our review process from being overly manipulated.
I'm old and may not remember so well but that's what I recall as being the limit. It may surprise you, but we don't have written SOPs in the back office or tucked away in the eRoids van's glove box. As time passes and fewer of us are around from those days, I find myself putting to print, the oral tradition lest it be lost forever.
Enter promos. Should they matter? If promos were done the way intended, you still have the same number of cycles per year. Review count should be basically the same. There was a considerable amount of review leeway already built in. Ok, (members did not have much or any input on this), If the reviews were mostly paid for, mostly solid, and a "one off" case can be made for some of them, why not grace someone with one or two "over limit" reviews. I.e., Ten.
Now you have a backstory from which to build. What say you all? What should the review limit be and why? We can increase the count or decrease it. I'm willing to comply with whatever the member consensus is.
My opinion? limited free promos per member. When you have members here putting themselves on every promo and every one of their reviews is those freebies that shows the abuse. No more must have karma of 10 or below. no more new members joining promos. Although they sure would find a way around that with reviewing fake orders. Its a pretty steep curve to try and overcome to be fair and strict at the same time.
Keep it the same but every member that goes over gets a harsher penalty. blacklist avatar along with the appropriate karma reduction. In the short term/long it could be mod taxing to have to police this rule. Then again we have members like @shred777 that has a fkn bloodhound's nose at sniffing the shit out.
Shred is definitely a bloodhound tracking them down.
Here is another thought. How about setting a scale for the number of reviews a person can do based upon their review Karma or could just go with overall karma. For example:
0-5 Review Karma = 1 review
6-10 Review Karma = 2 reviews
11-15 Review Karma = 3 reviews
etc.
OR
5-25 karma = 2 reviews
26-50 karma = 4 reviews
51-75 Karma = 6 reviews
76-100 Karma = 8 reviews
101+ Karma = 10 reviews
200+ karma = 12
1000+, Guro or pro tag = unlimited
Obviously, the numbers can be played with, but I think basing number of reviews on karma gives some incentive to be active on the site. Would keep alot of these new accounts from just coming on here to promo whore until no end. I hate to say it, but I put little trust into reviews I see from brand new members reviewing a promo or from a 7-year-old sleeper account with their only activity being a promo review. I put much more credit into a review i see from members with higher karma and members that are active on the site. However much you may dislike Karma; it does have its place.
I also think some sort of code could be built into the site by @BFG so you wouldn't even be able to write more reviews until you reached the next karma limit. Would save a lot of time and effort for everyone and @Greg trying to keep track of peoples review count.
This is a great idea, it definitely should be related to overall activity and input on the site. There is no reason why someone who gives zero input and time into the site an ability to do 8 promo's in a year. Karma is always related to time spent on here and interaction with members plus knowledge, don't get me wrong I have seen members with A+ knowledge on only 200 points but generally the reason is because they don't invest much time on here or they purely put their knowledge into their sources SI page and not the site in general.
AnonInteresting ideas.
I don't like the unlimited review cap for high karma members. Some sources private msg high Karma members to let them know about their new promo. Not everyone has a price but most do, and some will surely sell out. And that's why I don't like the idea of an unlimited review cap for any member. Some grandfathered in high Karma shill would abuse it. And rumors and comments about Eroids having a bias review system that lets only certain members unlimited reviews or more reviews wouldn't be good.
"26-50 karma = 4 reviews"
I would like to talk about this amount of karma that you mentioned.
I have 2 points.
1, Around this level of karma is where I see and catch many fake accounts and whores. It's not hard for them to reach this level of karma. It's not hard because they can and do devote a lot of time and effort. And often have experience gaming the system, thus making it even easier to get this much Karma. I don't think that will stop many fake accounts, I think it will only delay them some.
2, I also see members around this level of Karma who typographically articulate themselves with the best of them. Intelligent, experienced, honest...they just simply don't care or have the time to earn much Karma. But they still provide honest and comprehensive reviews and ratings; and imo should not be fettered from doing so by excessive website Karma restrictions. Just because some guy doesn't want to be on here that often or cant because: children, work, training, wife, hobbies, more family stuff...etc it's a reality for many men. And those men are not going to put their lives on the back burner to jump through hoops on here to earn enough Karma just to share their honest experience about some gear they ordered.
I see it as a double edged sword brother.
What I think should ideally happen is that if you write out a well detailed review is that it should be upvoted and enough karma should be obtained pretty much on your reviews knocking you into the next tier without devoting your life to eroids. Four well-articulated reviews could probably get 40+ total karma from them. Look at the well written reviews, albeit few and far between, and they get significantly, at least they better be, more karma than the 3 sentence GTG reviews. Those are just arbitrary tiers I put in for discussion's sake which will hopefully get more discussion. I would also think as you rank up in review tiers that your reviews gain more credibility. Could almost implement a new tag based on reviews, Tier 1 reviewer, Tier 2 Reviewer, etc.
AnonThat is a good idea. And you have a good point about well written reviews getting more upvotes/Karma.
We should encourage members to spend more time reading the newest source reviews and voting on them. I already know you do this, I see you in the pulse regularly voting on new reviews. Maybe another forum post encouraging the community to read new reviews and vote on them. I think we need more members checking new reviews and upvoting the ones that are the most useful. Also calling out guys who upvote ones that don't even meet review standards helps the community.
Unfortunately I am negging more than I am upvoting. It is obvious they don't even read the window that pops up when you go to write a review. Even the people who have been around for awhile are half-assing it alot.
AnonI know. Some days I report several at a time. Bottom right corner is a flag to report reviews that do not meet review standards. They can come back and edit after it's been flagged.
Another good idea - Gives more weight to the review.
I like where your going with this, aslong as karma whoring is kept in check. Basically, once they reach their limit they can wear a tag or be locked out.
@BFG. @Greg.
Also, how about everyone wearing a tag on how many reviews they have in a rolling year? Can't really hide that from anyone.
I can see where you're going with this and I don't disagree, but we would probably be trading promo whores for karma whores with a promo whore bent. Maybe an "active time on site" equation would work better. Active being a minimum of 3 post per month each on separate days, totaling a minimum 25 post a year and 8 active months/year to count as an active year. Obviously the number values could be different. If it could even be written in to a program.
To bad it cant be more like voting.
The fake reviews are soo bad lately that they bring the community down with guys looking for a free handout
And you cant trust them.
But some sources to blame also. And this stupid owes a review tag. If they don’t deserve the review why should it be given
Its like justvgive them one even if they dont deserve it. Its wierd
If you paid for gear, or the promo/order is over six months old you do not owe a review. If that's the case get GB to remove your tag. If you owe a promo review as part of the promo understanding and you think he did poorly, give him a critical review.
I was given 2 but i added 3 more at crap high prices to the order. I just dont think i should have that stupid tag
Cause i used 1 bottle and will never openthe other bottles just gona toss them
It would be interesting to see what the Sources say about this and what they would like to see it at, you could put this question up in the private sources member area. They are ultimately more important than the members in terms of this discussion - they foot the bills for the gear together with the labs they represent in the promo's, and their subs fee's are a key part of everything too. I am never too sure what their view is on this topic
It has been repeatedly. You've got the site upside down Members at the top, sources at the bottom. They are not important, members banding together in the review process has leveled the playing field. Sources cannot be here and selective scam, sell bunk, have poor customer service, tell you to fuck off if you piss them off. Members are in control.
BFG at first didn't collect a dime. He then wrestled with the idea of becoming a paid for site (members pay). Ultimately, with member input, he decided that sources can pay to interact with members on this site. Members can still add a sources website which may never be claimed by the source, (I.e., no paid interaction.) In other words, sources can be reviewed whether they like it or not, or whether they participate or not.
AnonSo you don't think the Sources are the most important part of the site then?
You hate promo's together with the people that enter them so your view is hardly going to reflect the majority of members is it.
No, sources are not the most important part of the site. Quality members and honest reviews are. Source interaction came later as eRoids grew in popularity.
https://www.eroids.com/src-rules
Okay, fair enough. I did not realise that sources had statements like this written in their rules on the other side of the coin. Most of us do not see that side. My personal opinion though is that I feel that the sources are more important than us and I think they should be, we as members are ten a penny and ultimately we do rely on these guys sticking their neck on the line every time they send a parcel to us. I know they are making money out of us all but I am still very appreciative of what they do.
Sure you are... now.
eRoids and the power of its collective market has leveled the playing field. We not only put a light on trustworthy sources, but by example may have created a few as well.
This whole "promo whore" review witch hunt is eRoids culture trying to protect each other and reliable sources from being defrauded and taken advantage of. Protecting your own is not a bad thing.
RustyhookerEroids is like the BBB over here. Members are to make reviews to safeguard or thumbs up so otger members dont get screwed like before eroids.
Promos are great! Intended to get newer folks trying out gear theyve wanted to try.
But to abuse the system with 1bottle here...1 there...oh ya, then find provi etc and somehow correctly make up a freebie 4 source review? Lmao!
Sources more or less important? Theyre drug dealers in most parts. If youre not buying or promoting tgey give 2shits bout bootlickers
Or we all just run amuck extorting sources?
AnonHere we go again.
Correct. Without clientele they can not even exist. And the forums alone hold great value. Ad revenue can and does support many forums. The forums (where I've learned a lot) and real members posting honest source reviews (which helps me find good gear) are the most valuable parts of this site to me.
I'm just gonna neg you for making an assumption about me and asserting it as a fact.