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NSA Spying program

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Frankly I am discussed that America, land of the "free" has turned into such a Orwellian utopia. We should all be up in arms about this NSA spying scandal but yet again nothing will be done and it will be swept under the rug just like everything else. They might as well burn the constitution. What is it going to take to wake the people up and demand action. We need to hold these people responsable for their unconstitutional actions.

If you feel like I do please go to the link below and tell your representatives.

https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=9260

ezmacc's picture

Because people let the media determine how they should think and feel. People don't realize that the "news" they are watching is mostly bias, spun bullshit and it almost always has an agenda.

ezmacc's picture

Looks like people are starting to wake up to the police state we are living in. Sales of George Orwell's 1984 is up 69% on amazon lol

http://washingtonexaminer.com/sales-of-orwells-1984-up-69-percent-on-ama...

TeaBody's picture

yea... and some religions breed and advocate violence, and we all know which ones those are.. I say abolish those from America and Europe as well, but that will never happen.

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alayna's picture

me too! bin laden has been dead since 2001 funny enough!

Engineereddisaster's picture

No bro. I only gave you that label because Obama could piss in your mouth and you'd continue to fellate the worthless bastard. Doesn't matter what he does, doesn't matter what he says, you'll blindly follow him, have his back on every decision, and rub his wiener whenever it's sore.

TeaBody's picture

Actually Biden was a huge endorser of banning gear...steroids wasnt a democrat or republicican issue

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ezmacc's picture

True story sir.

TeaBody's picture

But christsianity has evolved just like Wesern Society, muslims still living like animals, they haven't evolved since the crusades... I personally hate all organized religion, but if I had to choose one to rule my country the answer would be simple... You obviously never been or seen an islamist country, and how they treat their women, children and livestock..its disgusting. So once you have experienced it, then come and talk to me.. I don't see Christians beheading people in the streets of England, maybe 500 years ago but not in todays age.

These discussions never lead anywhere positive so Im done responding... I have a lot of blood, sweat and tears put into this topic, so everyone is entitled to their opinion..

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Darktide's picture

I am with I hate organized religion as well. That being said just for historical balance the Bosnian Genocide from 1992-1995 was just that a slaughtering of Muslims by Orthodox Christians. I seem to be on both sides of the argument playing the devil's advocate for each lol. Earlier today elsewhere I was defending true Christianity if this keeps up I am going to have a real identity crisis and I am not even religious.

The one thing for certain is a lot of killing is done in the name of religion.

TeaBody's picture

You got that right..

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ezmacc's picture

In a perfect world that would work, but it is a slippery slope in the real world. You cannot ban or outlaw ideologies or beliefs now matter how crazy. Now if someone makes a specific threat or creates a crime that would be different. I strongly believe in our constitution and highly oppose those who try to change or damage it.

TeaBody's picture

Im glad they spying on us, not like they give a fuck about the average joe like ourselves...They looking for terrorists, and threats to national security, ie ) terrorist cells, extremist groups, crime syndicates etc...Its funny the same people that complain about the govt spying on us are first people to start bitching when something goes wrong and asks why the govt didn't do anything... Spy away NSA, if they worried about some steroid user we would all be in jail already..

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ezmacc's picture

You have a lot of faith in our government my friend... And you are missing the who point. What they are doing is no different than if the government was taking the mail out of your mail box and photocopying it so they can have it on record. Is this the kind of world that makes you feel safe? How much freedom are you willing to sacrifice in the name of the government keeping you "safe". Fuck that shit with a aids dick bro, that shit makes my blood boil.

TeaBody's picture

Well what country would you rather live in? I don't see any better options... All European countries have cameras at every intersection, always being watched, Asia has more corrupt governments then the US and Africa has no governments at all...... the 'secret' govt agencies are going to do what they want, always have, nothing we can do about it..so might as well accept it.

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ezmacc's picture

I don't want to live in another country, I want our country to stay like our founding fathers intended it to be. We are slipping more and more away from that every day. I dont want the US to turn in to a police state with cameras on every corner like the EU. I am tired of Americans just bending over and saying "nothing we can do about it..so might as well accept it." The truth is there is plenty we can do about it but at what point are we going to say enough is enough? We already have TSA strip searching us and feeling our wife's and kids in the name of keeping us "safe". The biggest illusion is the lie that the government can keep you safe. The next thing they will say is they need our guns because they are just keeping us "Safe". Will you just say "Oh well, nothing we can do about it..so might as well accept it."? Wake up sheep, the police state is here, the only question is are you going to help do something about getting rid of it?

TeaBody's picture

Oh no, I got your point on the TSA and gun control...we now talking about a whole different subject, NSA listening to my phone calls and emails is one thing but taking away gun is much different. Im a huge gun supporter and I despise the TSA, but with the liberal laws of 'no racial profiling' is fucking ridicules...Theres too much money tied into Guns for the Govt. to take them away...yet. Theres more liberals in the country than there are conservatives.. So the democrats will win most of the elections from here on out, everyone nowadays wants a free handout. And as the liberlas win more votes, they will slowly take away more rights..away with guns, money earned, values and morals..Im a conservative my heart, but Im a realistist not an idealist like most americans.

So dont confuse my personal policies on the NSA with gun control and the other things you mentioned... I do my part, Im a lifetime member of the NRA, VRW, American Legion and I vote... nothing else I can do except armed rebellion, and not sure if you knew but the Dept of Homeland Secuirty has MRAPs now, and millions of rounds so thats a losing battle...just let America fall from within, Ill take up hiding in the moutains

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ezmacc's picture

Would it be fair to say that you are a huge suporter of the second amendment but when it comes to the fourth amendment not so much?

TeaBody's picture

so since you have it all figured out...what can you do to stop the NSA from looking at emails? what are you going to do to change the way America is? because emailing my congressmen really going to change it....The NSA is going to continue to look at whatever they want, no congressional hearing or protest going to change that, just like the CIA starting wars in foreign countries for the interest of the US...

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ezmacc's picture

Its frustrating I know and honestly I don't know what to do or what it would take. But as Americans regardless of if you are on the left or right we need to come together and realize that the government that should be working for us and should be in control of the American people has gotten to large. They think they can just get away with anything they want because they know that we will just sit here and say "there is nothing we can do about it". Maybe you are right, maybe there is nothing we can do except sit back and wach America fall.

Darktide's picture

Actually Americans don't have to come together. Most are to content to be sheep and not have their current way of life undisturbed. Another thing if you are pissed at what you already know that the NSA is doing then you would really be over the edge about what you don't know. Do realize that certain agencies are now allow to do things because of the Patriot Act without presidential or congressional oversight all under the guise of National Security. And even more so the politicians don't want to know so that they can have maximum denial. I understand your disgust brother and right you are to have it but being indignant will not change anything unless put into fervent action.

ezmacc's picture

You're 100% my brother. If I posted all the things that chaps my ass this would be a very large post. I just posted about the NSA Spying because it was most recent and thought maybe it would get some people to wake up and ask themselves if this is the world that they want to live in. I don't know what we can do to stop this machine but I will bet my last dollar that one day we will all wake up and wish we found a way. It amazes me how many people think we are so free when we are all being watched by big brother. Most of us are in debt up to our necks and the ones who are not are struggling to make ends meet. We are all slaves to the banks who loaned us the money. We are like hamsters on a wheel, we don't even have time to fight the fight because we are too busy trying to feed our family. It was never ment to be like this. This might be one of the few truths to come from the mainstream media. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FLrK9NmfM4

Darktide's picture

Well you have proven at least you are not asleep or naive! That is way ahead of most in this country. So keep sounding the horn.

ezmacc's picture

A wise man once said "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.".