@Juicin14 yeah i know vali's can be quite bad but if you go to the doctor's here in the uk,they would'nt give you anything to come off other than the suboxone's/subutex (the last is'nt really prescribed anymore due to abuse).i did go to them and got scripted subs, but stopped them and went complete cold turkey,for me it's all i wanted to do.i neither smoke weed,do benzo's,opiates or even drink.i just don't wanna quit ciggarette's.if your a psychologist you'll know more than me bud,but what was available to me i used.it was probably the hardest thing i've ever done but man it was worth it,nice to see someone else who done the run,good help bud

i am a psychologist now, but 7 years ago i was addicted to oxycontin and roxicodone for 2 years, i had to go to rehab to get off of the stuff, while there i did attend the Na meetings, and once i got out i attended some meetings but not the 90 in 90, mainly because the fact that the people in the meetings were also still using(dont know how, my conscious would have killed me), but as months went by i had to get on suboxone because the cravings became unbearable. making a geographical change will not cure a addiction, drugs are in every state in every town, but it does help, i moved 2 hours away. but the suboxone is also hard to come off of, methadone can be even worse to some people than detoxing off of heroin or oxys, because the half life of methadone is so long. suboxone is the same way, but its a little easier to come off of because of the 2 compounds within it. but when you do come off i would not suggest turning to weed, or benzos, you can actually have a seizure while detoxing and taking benzos. i would go to the doctor who rx's them or if you get them off the street then still go to a doc and tell them whats going on, they should prescribe you clonodine, phenobarbitol, and a anti-anxiety medication like buspar or vistaril, or whatever is needed. also remember PAWS post acute withdrawel symptoms, meaning that even after you are clean for up to a month you can still have feelings of withdrawel, they usually come around day, 14,21,28 etc. but this doesnt last forever, it will be hard but you are capable of getting it done. good luck with this, i know how hard it can be, the withdrawels are horrible, the sweats, the kicks, the shits, and the feeling of flim stuck in your throat, i know how it feels and its not fun whatsoever. good luck man

@ej rich No prob's bud and any ?'s just ask I'll try and answer them best I can,good luck with everything i know you need it lol,yeah keep posted

@ej rich Hey pal...yeah oxy's are nap's (oxymetholone),I like em a lot but you gotta train hard on em.Don't take test with them use it after you've finished em,there kinda strange in the way that the cause oeastrogen related side's.They themselve's don't cause aromatisation in the same way that running test will,they can be bad for sides but running them alongside test will increase the chance of high oeastrogen level's,look into it it's kinda strange.Unfortunatley due to order problem's I had to wait for more sent out so I started my juice and now I'm running test alongside the naps,very good but I'll be getting anti-e's.I take 1 a day for 7 day's then start taking 2,1 in the morning and 1 about 5o'clock.I take test400 twice a week also,lixus.First time trying these lot and seem g2g,but yeah nap's are good there very potent,drink plenty on em

@ej rich Ohh and in answer to your question I'd get some nap's and test,enthate or cyp.Theres a lot of different ways to go,maybe get prop and enthate even,front load the prop eod til the enthates working well and have a ball...idk but i do like nap's,just make sure you've got plenty of test for after them or most of it will be bye byes

@7gothic 'I don't care if you have to live in the forrest and eat sqirrels. GET OUT OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD',funny man made me lol but its true 100%...@ej rich he's right bud moving would help you a lot,anyone you know who's on that stuff does not give a TOSS about anything but there next one.You will struggle to clean up if your around em,even if you can't move just fuck em off.train and as time goes by shit'll get better man,get sorted and get outta there

A lot of good advice here...and I'll give mine::: GET THE FUCK OUT OF WHATEVER TOWN YOU LIVE IN, AND DON'T COME BACK. Don't fuck with ANYBODY who uses that shit. My town is so bad for this shit, that it has been featured on national T.V. several times, and it's a SMALL country town with 60K people.
Untill you change your environment and the people you're around, there isn't a steroid on the planet that can help you. But if I had to pick just one, it would be testosterone PROPIANATE. It's the fastest acting, and will give you the most "feel Good".
I don't care if you have to live in the forrest and eat sqirrels. GET OUT OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. Living in the forrest is better than dying in the nicest city.
Holy shit...when I was a kid, guys who worked out didn't do shit except maybe smoke weed and drink a little.
Everything's flipped around now. Peachers molest kids, and "bikers" are yuppy lawyers and doctors who whould faint at the site of a needle.
WHAT DA FUCK....I'm moving to Venus.

@ej rich You need to get yourself a bag of weed and plenty of ciggies,two strips of valium and go into your bedroom and shut the door,your body is addicted to opiate's and while mentally your gonna struggle.Physically your gonna shake so bad your gonna struggle to roll up that weed,but night time take 3 vali's and 30mins later roll a j.MJ is a catalyst for valium and other benzo's,it'll mellow you down really well (well cosidering the situation your in,it's the best you can do while avoiding all opiate's),and hopefully help you drift over to sleep a little at daft o'clock.Personally I would'nt go for the subutex/suboxone pal because it is a opiate and your only stepping down a level,it is a lot better though but it fuck's people up if they get at taste for it and are no good with self control.Once a week goes by and you feel a little better get yourself eating properly and doing light exercise's,once you have been eating well for a month and traning get to the gym and starting really training (then think about roid's bud,find something else in life and start building yourself up),you need to lose whoever your hanging with cos there a problem.Unfortunatley i know all this because 6 year's ago i had to do it,now I don't even smoke weed tho I can't and honestly don't want to kick cigarettes...good luck pal cos your in for a ride,oh and do it the hard way and use no other opiate's,it's harder but believe me a lot better end result

ej check into subutex/suboxone i myself was on H for over 10 years and been to many rehabs as well as tried methadone as a replacement and this is the only thing i have found to work. Only certain doctors can prescribe it and you will have to go through a small amount of withdraws before you start it but you should really check into it. I get your pain and if you want more info on how i went about it plz pm me. I currently still take a small dose of subutex and found i have no issue with test and deca and they actually seem to help with the joint pain. Also if you were iv user get checked for hep c before you use any roids just my thoughts good luck.

(Correcting Jacob) Find God, Then pray to god over and over and over!...
You could try tapering down but might find that hard to do.

In your weakest moments you'll do anything to get more. You must "burn your bridges" i.e., Make it impossible for yourself to re-supply.

I know you posted looking for an easy solution. I'm not aware of one. And you probably already know substituting one addiction for another still leaves you addicted.

Get used to the fetal position and just do it. It'll be over before you know it.

clonidine will help, too... the only way to get through it is to go through it, bro. once ur through the worst of it and "ready" to hit the stacks AAS can (likely) help you with a sense of well being (plus getting huge does wonders for the self-esteem) but be sure there's a price to pay for that too... even with proper PCT I (personally) deal with mild depression coming off

You're in for a seriously shitty week or more, depends how much you're taking and how long you been hooked. You really need to tapper it off slowly. At 20mg/day I didn't sleep for days and was hugging the toilet more than i was standing on my feet, and that was coming off by 2-4mg per day.

Can't say for aas (didn't do aas back then), but valium and tramadol helped.
Good luck!