Common ground, saddle up and lets storm Washington, I'll bring the bathsalts! Lol..i hear ya on the smart phones too. Hell I think we agree mostly brother and its hard to find comparisons to this shit, I have been ass hammered on alcohol many more tims than I care to count and never woke up to find out I ate anyone, well, not the sort of ate we're referring to anyway.

I think we're getting somewhere..lol. look brother, I'm the most conservative guy you'll meet, I raise my kids by the book and have a soft touch but a firm hand if needed, I don't want my kids doing this shit so I teach them not to. if they F up and end up doing this or worse they knew better but I don't think a law will prevent it or anything else. Look at the effects of alcohol on society. It is by far worse on mankind than ALL OTHER DRUGS COMBINED. it was legal, then illegal then. Legal again, nothing ever changed except the gov had more control over citizens when it was illegal. More laws is not the answer to these things IMO, we have too many laws now to the degree we are less of a "free people". Not saying we're more free with drugs just saying laws take away more freedom than originally intended. We could focus on good laws we have now that we don't enforce rather than handing more power to the gov every time we turn around if that makes sense. Its history for me, history has proven the gov has screwed up every single thing they have ever been in charge of so why repeat that history and the gov has never banned anything that it was effective so why keep repeating that history. If we don't know our history we are doomed to repeat it comes to mind. Put it this way as to your anology, I'm a very reasonable person and I don't do meth right now and if it were legal I would not do it either. I make decisions based on my thoughts not whether or not something is legal. Look at the one we are making here, I would be no more or less inclined to use juice if it were legal, it would just make me happy that the gov is acting by the constitution given they don't have the right to protect me from myself as per those documents. i see you point trust me and we just have to agree to disagree because I don't have the confidence in the gov that you do. They have literally not done one thing in even. One single dept of the gov that is either helpful or beneficial and sure as hell don't do any of it in an appropriate way when it comes to the budgets they set which are way to high to begin with. The DEA is a failure brother, they have never fixed a problem in society with any drug , ever. The more shit we put on their plate the more money we have to throw at them and the more shit they can fail at. If making this shit illegal was going to keep people from using it and the gov could manage that restriction and keep kids safe as a result of it, I'm with you maybe. They just can't manage what they have and at some point society has to use its common sense or it will implode. Again, legal or illegal is not where my decision came down when I opted not to use heroine. If people want to use it they will, law or no law. I see your point though 100% I just see 100 yrs of history proving it won't make even a mild difference. Weed is illegal and I know more people maybe that use or have used weed than not, the legal system never played into the decision. I go back to "you can't stop stupid", hell I wish you could as much as you do trust me.

I'm just glad meth was banned, nobody uses it anymore, sweet! Brother you can't ba n anything, ever, period, you only drive up the desire to get it and creat an underground market for it and drive the price up. You can't ban stupid, make sense?

Gotta tell you guys, I have no patience with people who have to use drugs in order to cope with their existence. I understand having an occasional beer, or smoking while watching a really tripy movie, but when you can't go a day without getting drunk or high... Well I believe that's a really sad existence.

People are doing them because its undetectable in a drug test

I got into those for like a month when they first came out. They made me feel awesome and they were alot of fun until it was gone! The crash was a mindfuck from hell. Horrible horrible stuff man and i cant believe i was dumb enough to do that shit. I hope they ban the stuff.