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Like Jarhead2 said, this has gone to comedy hour, nothing constructive here any longer.
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Like Jarhead2 said, this has gone to comedy hour, nothing constructive here any longer.
I see he’s banned now.... what did I miss? Lol I always miss it somehow :-/
AnonDidn't know when to just shut up an move on is my guess.
Prolly right!
You are a drain on the NHS
Judging by your profile pic I would say your Estrogen is a little high - take some Letrozole for a while and get back to us.
shirlsguyGot bloods this week, it is a 24-48 hour turnaround. I don't like to pump the orals unless I have a reading. It is not really hard to get full blood counts, just tell my doctor I am using AAS and they comply. My endo specialist does full profile, including liver yearly and the bloods are quarterly. I may talk trash, but I do believe in watching my ass. No matter how the talk is going, I don't like to mess without knowing why. I have never gone low estro, but I have heard that it can be way worse even than high. I hope to never know first hand. Thanks for the input, however.
Good reply. Where I live I can walk into any clinic/hospital lab and order any of the blood work that I like - no script needed - and it's relatively cheap for the normal stuff like liver and kidney profiles, Cholesterol and a full blood count. All that sets me back about $60. PSA and Thyroid are about $50 each. I get blood work every 3 months because of my heart condition and the subsequent effect of the meds on kidneys and liver. Because of that I avoid the orals completely - have a couple of hundred Winnys and about 150 Var sitting in the gear draw. I found that my one cycle on Tren E really had a serious effect on liver values across the whole profile - not only AST/ALT - so wont ever use that again. I have had low estrogen - the only thing I noticed was a lack of motivation to train or do anything - an overall general state of malaise and irritability.
shirlsguyThank you, and what you just put is the entire reason I am here. Anecdotal experience along with the science. I can read every book around and get the 'concept' of all this, but the societal belief that we all want to be monsters who will one day eat our babies has left real data scarce. One thing I find is that 'harm' from steroid abuse is rarely discovered until too late, a lot of heart valves and thickened walls. The lack of studies leaves the science at speculation and that makes anecdotal experience invaluable.
I am sorry to hear about the troubles you have, that must double up disappointment for a builder (your drawer jelly beans does not indicate that you hate the life).
In England, I don't even have to pony up for bloods, and because my TRT needs began before I had ever tried any type of AAS, it is monitored by a specialist. It is sometimes awkward saying that I want bloods because I am abusing my TRT, but they understand and seem to want to help. Best of luck with all the health.
P.S. that chest pic.... it is plain sub-q fat, that is right where alcohol goes. Sadly, it built up in just seven months, I was trim last December from a rigorous warehouse position. I was embarrassed to post the lat spread, there is so much fat there, where the lats are popping out again, it looks like a boob hanging off of them, really, the lat pops out nicely and it just squeezes that fat to the armpit and resembles a boob.
Actually mate - initially I was being facetious and referring to your avatar. I wouldn't criticise your posted pics - I'm no Adonis to start being critical of other people's physiques. You looked great in the recomp pics - that was 2013 - are you similar now?
shirlsguyHahahahahah, am I slow or what. Off to a busy day, but that clears a lot for me. Yeah, the missus has a pretty good pair!
No doubt your a lucky man.
RustyhookerFull blown rant.... then you post this cycle?!?!
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/nandrolone-cycle#comment-2831300
Addicted is just a tip of iceberg bro.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. We will still be here.
RustyhookerWhere exactly do you need assistance? Last forum you posted was an excess of drugs without thoughts on food and gym changes.
Your final words was that youre going natty and tightening up the regimine. What happened after that?
shirlsguyI am just going to address this question and then move on, as it is on point. The help has already made its first appearance. I posted the ideas I had on running Deca and contained within the blasting was enough advise to send me back to the drawing board.
I probably should have been more fair about natural lifting, that is my confusion too. The last time I got my body back together, I did it with T3/Clen, Tren/Test and a few other fat burners. While it achieved a 90-day recomp the likes of amazing, I do feel that I very unnecessarily used compounds for something I can do without.
When I need to shed 28-lb body fat, just to get to 14%, it is daunting, but a good diet can do it just as well, with cardio and workouts. So
1) posts in the 'What's for Dinner' thread help me a lot; especially when that is where I need advice helping me to go towards zero carbs in the evening.
2) As I mentioned, I was 'planning' a cycle and as the positive parts of the responses made clear, I am 'already on' cycle. That was another wakeup call.
I calculated my alcohol 'clean' date and it is May 19th that I took my last drink of alcohol. Using the principal lying of addicts I think as a rule, that makes 1-drink six, a few drinks a bottle, and a few days a week. Relate this to AAS and the wakeup call was certainly warranted. So, the reality I have is that I am actually loaded for a full blown cycle, albeit currently at a reasonable level. I have been putting together a real chart of just where I am at and I will post it for review. In the end, it is not bad, pretty decent ratio and level of a Deca/Test, but my thinking process was heading me for another round of BP going out of control.
3 The largest thing from this site that I am after is the pier support and helpful criticism. As a rule of thumb, many of us have ego, narcism and other neurological (sp) issues so I understand the self-serving people on the forum, and if riding my ass helps their program, fine. I don't have it together right now, not by a long shot.
My life is just crossing the 'dry' life to a 'sober' one and like I have said before, the past three years have been mired down in trying to bring my wife to the sober side with me. Two drunks getting sober together is tough. Situations dictated me to really give her a choice, one that we have argued over for 11-years, but this time it was different. I had to actually put her out of her own home and away from her own children (I am a step-father of 14-years with 18-years in their lives). She chose to come home and not drink and by the grace of god, she is adopting the belief that a sober life is a great life.
I have found that putting my faults out in the open gives me a greater accountability and in a 90-day plan of action, that can really lead to a lot of changes, on way more levels than physical. So, I use this forum for:
1) Advice on AAS
2) Advice on Diet
3) Spiritual Drive
4) Accountability
5) Friendship
6) Random Ideas on the Wierdest Shit ever Discussed
7) New Drug Laws, News, Scares and Breakthroughs
9) A laugh
10 Inspiring Pictures, Hot pictures, nasty pictures..... just pictures as a whole
I have no doubt that the site has already saved me from doubling my Deca Cycle and thus several issues that I did not want to experience. So life saving advice may already be on the table.
The criticism pushed me to sit down and do a real assessment of my physical stature. That led to many bonuses. For #1, my son bought a caliper set two weeks ago and has been waiting for me to show him how to use them. It is just the plastic pinch set, designed for the single fold method, but it does the trick. We Googled multi-fold charts and even got mum involved. So we spend the next two hours measuring BF, body measurements in inches, and charting out a goal. We logged it all into a book, put the kit in a box and we will all return for a second set in 01 September. It gave me a huge wakeup personally and it put three of us on realistic and healthy goals.
I got a couple new friends. Turns out I am not the only one thinks a couple of these guys are not half as popular as they think. My pm's exploded and turns out many are happy to see a couple 'fuck-offs' flying about. And, yes, some of the comments are about people, being bullied, hating this site, so if my willingness to put myself out there a bit helps them, then that is giving back to the community.
Let's keep one thing real, and rep points mean a lot to most members. If I get negged a bunch for failing to bow humbly at a god of the site, then they are points well lost. I have been negged plenty, hell, I think the Big Guy himself has negged me in the past. I have been negged by the likes of Viking, Roid Noid, you name it, but in the end, I have a pretty decent reputation. I learn from my mistakes and I make it happen, what we are all after.
This time, i want to come to the end of this tunnel with the healthy and fit body I am after and keep the spirit that goes with it.
Forgive all the typos, I just unbandaged a smashed finger and it hurts like hell on the keyboard, I don't have the energy to go back over this.
RustyhookerYou have been here a long time which is why i asked. If memory serves i answered your questions on ebc etc long ago.
The chase for the body is a lifetime of ups and downs. Its never been an immediate. And the realistic crappy part is its all a solo event. Theres no cheer squad. No helpers. Its just you and your dreams. Im not currently lean. I just got off a health scare that no phd could figure out. Records show im internally healthier than 25 year olds.
If you have issues with booze, it is best to do your meetings. And choose health over a new chemical dependency. Im not telling you what you already know. Plus in a house of double trouble. Sorry but whats best for the kids bro? Same deal id tell my own homies. And have told em. They chose wrong and in prison or dead. Facts of life.
But theres also the folks i know that stuck to it. Keep up on meetings and steps and doing good for their kids. Your choice. You are at a threshold in life. What you do does matter to someone.
shirlsguyThanks, yes I recognised the handle. I think the reality for me here is that I have, like the last time, inadvertently loaded myself already. I put what is already in my system into a cycle of 12-week length, as I am already into the 5th week of this cycle. I do feel, looking at the chart, that I have done this in a very poorly planned method and irresponsible to a high degree, but I think that with some guidance, i can still come out of this with a very good result.
The first problem I see is the use of Nebido for loading. It really makes for an unreliable free test calculation outside of actual blood testing. The upside is that I know it came from pharmacy and will be quality free test, the downside is that 'ideal' ester breakdown is quite far from reality.
In the end, I have a very solid 750mg test in my system and it will not decline for about four weeks. No way I can call that a natti program.
Giving some credit to the howling crowd, there is some reality to promo whoring in that a promotion with NPP was very attractive. I was going to load with Deca with meds on hand and the offer of a nice NPP was very attractive. I have to be completely honest and say that I paid no attention to the fact that a very high percentage of the blend was undecanoate and not until charting up my meds did I really implicate just how much of the long ester I am pumping in. 'Blends' have historically been very underdosed in my opinion, specifically with one lab that was coming out strong five years ago. In this case, the promotion came through with a very effective Tri Blend and it is very clear that I am loaded up. I'm just being open here as no one can help a liar, and it is clear to me that I was not completely honest with myself until I started getting blasted in the face.
So, I put what the cycle is like up for criticism and I put a chest shot on too. I will keep this log updated monthly, along with a few more photos. Anything that is positive, I am more than open to.
What happened was a new promo poped up.
RustyhookerThe root of evil some days...
I understand the rant, but this post isn’t accomplishing anything & if I were you I’d just delete it & move on. Positivity is powerful & I just try to stay positive regardless of what’s going on around me.
Interesting how it’s always the people who don’t tell the truth here, are the ones who complain the loudest about being called out. It’s always the “bullies” or idiots fault, but never their own. Instead of resolving the issue, they post more topics on how Eroids is driving people away, is full of bullies and needs to be more accepting. Time to look in the mirror, but I highly doubt that will happen...
Then again, Flash’s new anti-bullying program shows promise!
Yep Lying scumbags are amongst us - Its the ones with multiple accounts that are the most fun to expose..
Bullys beware. Lol
Lol
shirlsguyNot a clue who Flash is, but just 'cause someone is a bully does not mean I have been pressed anywhere. I am as tough as they come, so people can talk all the shit they want. All this did for me was turn a plausible 'off day' into a arms day and add two miles of cardio on top of the walk with my family. Bully away, no one is going to cry for long. I had my rant about it, and now I just put money where the mouth is.
This site is for development and education. The only stupid question is the one not asked. If people are assholes about the answer, no problem, I still got education for the cost of my time only. Now if someone wants to just jump on a wagon of insults, they earned about one good 'fuck you' and then I need to get on.
Just taking a quicklook at the ranking in this whole post, I have the attention I am after. If you don't like me, fuck all to me. Nice to be liked, but not necessary. I'm getting the information I need and I am putting it together well.
At best, people get an 'attempted bullying' with me, I don't run for shit!
Good. I for one would rather see you stick around. You are a long term member here, and you are 'one of us' regardless of what forums you peruse. Meaning; you are an AAS user and a weightlifter/bodybuilder, a part of the community`- and the community generally doesnt want to see people hurt themselves, repeat past mistakes, or worse yet die from bad plans.
But with that in mind, beyond wanting you to hang around, better again would be to actually listen to some of the advice and take it onboard. Our health is our wealth afterall, not some silly photos of us doing sh1t flexing! Stick around, Ive no doubt you will... but lose the fkn ego, just a little and focus on health 1st. You can become a lean diabetic, a lean heart attack in waiting, a lean big left ventricle, a lean corpse.
Health first.
Best wishes.
Don’t know you. Don’t care either way. I was just responding to what I read here and what others have posted.
You didn’t actally respond to the content of my post, but that didn’t surprise me. I’d actally like to see all this go away and for the drama to fade. We can all wish...
Lol Im not bullying you. Im just stateing the facts. You posted a rediculous cycle and when you got called out you changed it to natural training. Then you immediately asked to receive a promo... your correct your not running I would call it duck and cover or even trying to pull the wool over someones eyes... your on all of the free promo pages.
Oh another bullying situation. I'd suggest getting ahold of flash for some character building practice
shirlsguyAs above, who the fuck is Flash, and who the fuck cares?
RustyhookerCheck your estro bruh....jeezuz
Flash is a well respected long time member. Dont be disrespectful.
shirlsguyUnderstood
He's also the biggest mouth on twig bully on this site.
Posts a going natural thread and then joins a promo. Lol
shirlsguy • Fri, Jul 27th, '18 17:47 • 15 replies, 145 views
shirlsguyTRT is still natural when you count is naturally low for a 70-year old man. Prescribed test comes about 25% short of a balanced result and mayn will state that supplementing via UGL beats begging at the doctor's any day. In addition, any sides that result as taking TRT say double what is prescribed, the doctors really get harsh about prescribing. They want to cut the meds altogether, so again, those are easier to just get with UGL than to go begging to a doctor just to have your script cut off.
I have maintained safe bloods for the past four years with a very reputable source, domestic UK and that source tanked over the past six months, thus I have been searching out a new domestic source. There have been about five great promotions that fit the bill of Domestic UK and a great reputation, so if I like the idea of trying out their packing, shipping, delivery and attitude before dumping a future order of size, then I don't feel that I am out of pocket here.
The two test-e vials on the way from a promotion hardly represent a massive cycle, so this is a bit harsh. There are also 'theraputic' medicines, which again, the doctors don't like to prescribe. If I keep a level of Nandrolone in my system because it provides immeasurable joint benefits, then that is also a long ways from a blast. After two matching reports from MRI scans, and unrewarding physio, I found that the properties of the medicine make movement bearable. It is not weight lifting that caused the defect, and it does not exacerbate the condition, it was getting hit be a flipping car backing out of its drive during a sports competition when I was on my bicycle. It is a pin-point hole in the cartilage (osteomitochndrial tear) and it cannot heal, but it does not increase either. Just sleeping on it can be painful if I don't lay right, so it makes weight lifting above 80kg in any manner unbearable.
Surgery has been offered and I consider it often. I am, in fact, due to see the GP for a specialist referral on the 9th of this month, but I still doubt that I will let someone cut my shoulder open when I can feel just fine.
Natural..... that was taken from me 'naturally' when my system just tanked without reason or explanation at the age of 40+. My test levels were that of a 70-year old man. Lifting without pain was taken when someone backed their car into me on a roped off road. Now I can cry about it or do something about it. Do I have all the experience I need to do it right? Not always, and that is why I am here.
It is the 21st century and I just don't have to deal with naturally occurring problems maintaining an erection or a shoulder that hurts doing dishes. It is the legislatures who believe that anyone who puts an AAS into their system is a freak that needs to be locked away, and some of the attention headed this way is coming close to adopting that concept.
Yes, I am trying promotions with domestic shipping and I think that I am damned smart to do so with my drive to ultimately do a great size producing cycle. I have been dependant upon one source for too long and now that there is so much buzz about the site, I would be an idiot to not read a warning sign.
I am a bit more than disappointed to be the target of fun, and it is not inspiring of confidence in the guidance. You guys had a great laugh and great investigative work Sam, but it is a bit unnerving to have that kind of focus, which was, to me, not designed to help what I have clearly shown this week to be a lacking confidence.
So. Are you 70 or 51 as your profile says - or maybe you are just full of shit any way you want to stack it.
I didn't read that whole book you just wrote but here's the deal. Your a promo whore. Your on every free promo page that pops up. Yesterday you had some ridiculous cycle posted. When you got negative feedback you changed it. When I called you out for promo whoreing (which you absolutely are) you changed it again.Your shady af...
shirlsguythe saying goes.....'take what advice you can use, ignore what you cannot'. I have no idea what has given you the hard on for me, but I don't swing that way. Good luck with whatever it is you expect to gain from bashing someone looking to improve themselves. Neg me, put me on the promo whore page, whatever. You clearly have nothing for me, and as such you just do not matter. It would be nice if you would just find your own path to follow and not troll me, but if you must, by all means, it is an open forum.
Me, I have the gym to hit, dogs to walk and a beautiful sunny day to enjoy with my wife and kids. Troll on, Baby, troll on.
All I said was you posted a going natural thread and then within an hour joined another freebie promo. This is a fact. Then you write a book to try and rationalize it. Who's the troll here...
shirlsguyI still got my workout, and I still ate the right foods. Spent quality family time, this whole plan will come together. You don't have to be sweet to me, Respect is earned. So I made an ass of myself a few times here in as many days.... today's page 1 is tomorrow's page 20. From the time I started back in this forum to today, I have been four times around on body part workouts and I am down 2kg fatty tissue. Just keep fucking with me another 26-weeks and I will be fit again! It works for me!
Ignorance is bliss
You constantly catch this stuff man. It’s awesome. Lol. Those track and stream buttons are a bitch.
I still have not figured out track and stream.
shirlsguyAs above, not constructive when you don't know why.
We all know why. free...
OMG You are right!....
shirlsguyNo, he assumes that a promotion might somehow provide a stock to 'blast' when it also has the ability to prove source quality and reliability. In fact, promotions are just that, proving reliability, not supply. Perhaps people just see promotions as free gear and not the promotional purpose it is meant for. Very poor support ganging up on someone in my state of mind, luckily I am a bit more aged than to pout all day, but this does hurt, man, it really can.
As far as reliability goes your top notch. We can always depend on you to be on every promo page..