posted Fri, 06/06/2014 - 08:40
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Accutane, Your results of use?
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I have some very persistent bacne, and shoulder acne. And before you say, scrub your body, take more showers, or tan(cover up). I've tried those and it isn't working.
So the question is just wondering how many have used Accutane? What the results were? What negative effect did you have? Does it get rid of the deep cystic zits under the skin with no heads? (I have a few on my back that are DEEP)
If I run a cycle of Accutane, should I do it before a AAS cycle, after, or at the same time?
How long do you run a Accutane cycle for?
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Dude, what steroids are you guys taking to get this horrible acne? Or did you guys always have bad acne and juice made it worse?
Feel bad for you guys though. The most I get even on the most notorious acne producing steroids is the occasional zit on my shoulder.
In my previous post I stated oil + bacteria is the cause.... Well... now that I have wrote this... It finally makes sense. Why do you use special soap for your scalp? Because it produces oil and hair needs oil. Disturbing that oil production in a manner which makes it overly dry creates an imbalance such as PCT does to get your hpta system to start up producing Lh+Fsh... Using powerful body soap's etc will achieve this. How often do you get zits on your head vs the rest of your body.
Reason being your hair absorbs excess oil and that oil help nourish your hair. I know this for sure because of all my girlfriends with nice hair saying "DONT WASH YOUR HAIR EVERYDAY"
The same thing goes for ratchet looking women who die there hair extreme colors. It turns there hair into brittle dry w.e.
I cannot grow a beard .... but I did notice after I started to shave random areas of my body I started to grow thicker hair and a few new hairs started to pop up. For example on my chest I use to get HUGE zits which actually now that I think about it where more like ingrown hairs then a zit.
My point is look at a hairy homeless man... Think about how little he washes his face or body.
Look at how little acne he gets. And he lives in a constant environment of filth.
Look at a young teen going through puberty with peach fuzz.... If they don't wash face there will be pimple hell.
Maybe this whole epidemic has something to do with hair follicles and or pores being that pores are what accutane reduces/shutting down oil production.
So can shaving be the cure?
Some of the things you are saying are a bit true. All the girlfriends I have had with nice hair only wash once in a while. While conditioning their hair every day, Or every other day.
That being said as for myself, I NEVER had body acne (not even when I was a teen) until after I stopped using the TEST E cycle I was on (this was inject-able over 9 weeks). I did have a few zits on my scalp while on cycle, but who cares it was covered by hair.
It's been about 5 months sense the first body acne has shown up. And although it has calmed down significantly. I still have some. I want it gone. The GF I currently have has been scrubbing my shoulders, and back with acid (lvl 1) to soften up the skin and kill everything, about once a week. This has helped dramatically. But I want it ALL GONE like before I did my first cycle!!!!!! I'm going to keep this regiment up for another month. If it does not work I will seek a Dermatologist advice, in accutane.
I can NOT grow facial hair other then a few stragglers. My body is virtually hair free. (check out my pic)
Then I am very very convinced it isn't due to imbalance its due to the fact that test makes you grow new hair.
I haven't given it deep enough thought but I know this when I was growing hair in my chest. Every little spot that was measly hair growth had red dots around follicule. Aka pimple
before they grew in Id get mad black heads that would pop on my chest like crazy deep rooted pimples but they would not be red. Completely normal to eye black spot only but 1000's of em...
SHAVING IS GOING TO BE YOUR ANSWER. Dont shave acne break out shave around pimples. But get those hairs to grow. YOu have to have a few hairs on your body. Literally just shave your chest every day for a month and stop and tell me you dont start noticing hair. Your body is covered in hair. Its just super fuzzzy wuzzy baby hair and now that baby hair is either Sitting in a mans pore allowing more oil in and not pushing it out or w.e. who cares .... I promise this will work I am to my shoulder area and am noticing hair on my shoulders and bottom side of arms....
2 years ago I had no body hair at all . 15% to what I have now
I thought you were going to say "Can homelessness be a cure." ;-)
Mind blown but still theory stands that every hmeless person is acne free but hiv postive etc.
Bro I keep hearing all kinds of negative stuff about accutane right along with steroids... I'm not suffering from this goddamn affliction any longer... I have some in the mail bro.
Its the same theory. If you take accutane wrong- Along with taking gear wrong
Bad shit will happen.
That's good to know bro... I'm up to my eyelids on info surrounding accutane.. and its seems like it was made for ME
AnonGo see a derm. Do Not take accutane without being under the care of a doctor. Do not take accutane while you cycle. In fact, if you are really concerned enough to do it, plan on setting 5-6 months aside. You will need to eat clean, especially while on because it will jack up your triglycerides and cholesterol profiles....blood work has to be done monthly, but not by yourself. This is way to serious of a medication to just manage on your own. Just my opinion.
It does work. And very well. No way to entirely predict sides, because accutane actually works down at the genetic level. It reformulates skin cells but not indiscriminately. Other bodily systems can be affected as noted below by many others. Ibs, chrones, depression (by affecting dopamine receptors) could all be potential unintended outcomes. Best to play it safe. Go get a doc to manage if you are certain this is the route you want to go.
OK as far as I have read no body answered with what I am going to say. If you want to skip the research I have done and go straight to the dosing of the isotrentinon... So be it but I wouldn't listen to anyone who doesn't know what they are talking about.
Accutane is by far one of the strongest compounds you can put in your body. I Do not know how it effects the bowels creating ibs chrons etc... I assume it makes your insides drier as it does on the outside.
I do know it causes your body to shutdown oil. No oil means no wet bacteria. Wet bacteria on your skin sitting dormant festers into new bacteria and its done under your pores being that oil is absorbed back into pores such as water when you are done showering.
Acne is both hormonal and Bacteria related. Its mostly one or the other. In the situation when its both that is because your so oily (caused by Genetics which regulate hormones) That bacteria is more prominent thus leaving you with pimples.
In my situation... Due to having a genetic related hormone issue and being plagued with an ethnicity that has greasy skin. Why does my body produce more grease? Genetics. I need boat loads of sun and high humidity to really go clear while managing my hormones. I would scrub 3 times daily be on truck loads of protocols- Then I got aggressive.
I researched accutane and the most effective way to take it without fucking myself up. There are these problems you hear about because "Dr's" where writing 120 mg daily doses to people. Now I took 80 mg daily when I was a teen which lead me to adulthood accutane use... Except when I used accutane as an adult My lips only sorta peeled and didn't peel the fuck off bleeding ...
SO. . . you want to use accutane but you dont want to get fucked up.
Hit 2 weeks 10 mg daily
Then hit the next 2 weeks 10 mg e3d
Stay on 10 mg e3d or if you are satisfied with the results maintain 10 mg every 7 days.
You need a weekly dose of 10 mg to keep the pores from acting back up in the begin stages. The first 2 weeks are to shut down your oil and then allow them to bounce back a little to the point where they produce less then the average person with great looking skin. Keep that protocol or jump to 7 day 10 mg for 6 months and then go every 14 days for another 6 months. I haven't done any maintenance doses after 3 months because my acne got so much better that It didn't even bother me.
Do not fucking up a dose past 10 mg or double dose. If you want to be super conservative double the length of time and drop the dose to 5mg. It will still do wonders compared to anything and everything you will take or have taken.
Tips= Keep a lot of really good lip balm on hand and do not use benzyl peroxide. Keep your face washed every other day with gentle soap first 2 weeks ... If you are really sweaty then wash but if not just use water. While your waiting for acutane try washing your face with dove moisturizing soap bar ... Just soap the fuck out of your face. Get your ears neckline neck collar bone underchin etc. Be thorough. Under eyes under nose. I promise that alone will kick ass.
Are you on cycle? Have you check your estro? Tanning doesn't cover it up by the way it treats and prevents it by uv rays
My first/ last cycle was last winter finishing up the end of DEC 13, the Acne started around 2 weeks into PCT. And has been persistent up until this point.
I have not checked my estro levels but, I'm guessing they were/are crazy out of whack that's why the I got the acne in the first place?
Think. More testo more esto more oilio
You got the acne because what ever it is that is out of balance is causing more oil.
You think a closer watched PCT, would help recover better so Acne wouldn't show up?
yes and no your using clomid (NOLEDEX IS SUPERIOR FOR THIS REASON) to create more lh and fsh by blocking the ability to accept estrogen in the brain. Clomid also makes estrogen.... thats why you get so emotional on it.
Lh and fsh convert to testosterone as a result of being increased and your levels during pct are flucuating pretty bad depending on your cycle. Pct can't be perfect for 80% of the people out there.
Imagine starting a car with a dead battery depending on how bad that battery is it might not even kick over.
When you put the charging cables on it ... boom it starts or charges for a little and then starts. Sometimes if the battery is damaged or old it will end up going dead again being unable to prodcue h20+acid in the battery or the cells are dry etc.
Either way you add a little water to that battery and it starts to run again... Well that whole time your trying to get it to run while its dry is the same idea. |
There is something you need to add zinc 50mg / vitamin b / not washing enough/ pct dose not spot on... While you will eventually go insane trying to get that car battery to work your going to have to post stats. Whats your pct ?
Accutane works, but it has lots of serious side effects. I wouldn't take it unless prescribed by a doctor. You should have your blood/liver checked monthly on accutane. It can also cause IBS and chrones, plus it has been linked to several other persistent ailments.
Never take it if you're taking an oral steroid. You'll fry your liver. Go to a doctor and go from there. It's no joke.
true that but taking it in 10mg dose is equal to nsaid.
You have what evidence to back this claim up? I've known people who have had serious side effects at similarly low doses. Low does not mean safe.
Wondering if anyone had taken Accutane, and gotten IBS, or Chrones? That is what I am really concerned with. I would never take oral, only PIN for me.
My Sister-in-law has IBS from Accutane. She was very skinny and working at McDonalds so the manager let her eat all the fry's she wanted. The doctor told her she had to stop eating fatty foods but forgot to tell her that she had to eat fatty foods like peanut butter with each dose. The pill was not absorbed in her stomach so it caused damage to her bowels. Hope this helps.
I've taken it and many of my family has and we we're find, but we were all in our teens. My wife's friend took it and now has ibs. Just like any strong medicine, it has potential side effects. It can really mess up your liver values. Be careful and get monthly tests.