posted Fri, 06/11/2021 - 07:45
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questions about a first time cycle and pct
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im looking to start my first cycle and understand that it needs to be planned and researched. i am going to do a 12 week cycle of test c at 500mg/week. my questions are: what length of pin is necessary for pinning gluts? im fairly low body fat 14 or 15%, and is clomid, nolvadex and aromisin necessary for a first time cycle, if all it could do is help me and not hurt me, im game. thank you in advance.
edit: 5'10" 190lbs 15%bf 33 years old, healthy beside my 4500calorie diet consisting of mainly butter and ice cream --
been doing non competitive power lifting for 2 years, gains are moving at a snails pace these days, tried resets and changing workout, hoping some gear will break this rut im in.
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AnonAll i know, is im not fit to carry their bags...literally, being built like Halsey more than wheels, without the ponytail and that big queer streak down the middle of course.
These guys out work EVERYBODY EVERYDAY. That is why they are great. Anything else is just details.
I liked the "being built like Halsey". The literal translation to this is "skinny as fuck, lb for lb strong as fuck, healthy and more heart and lunges than a horse". Lol
Once again, to each their own. To be healthy, I have to keep my weight down. There has got to be a balance.
Rustyhookerlungs
Lol, lungs! Tuesdays are 1200m of walking lunges though! Got to keep my ass popping too bro.
RustyhookerOh snaps! Thats way outta my cardio range.
applause
Larry wheels is another Boston loyd, he is on more steroids than 5 guys together here. Give some better examples of you're going to try and bash me.
AnonWait. What? Larry Wheels takes steroids?! ...and Eddie Hall?! NO!
Do you guys take steroids? Mack? Press? Moli? Tbone? WTF?! Say it ain't so!
My whole world is fucking spinning right now. I don't even know which way is up!!!!
Goddammit...here i was trying my hardest and following the words of our lord and savior:
CHRIST ON THE FUCKIN' CROSS, MAN!
Come on! Quit fuckin around.
Still carrying around that towel? You might need to start growing a moustache to hide those stretchmarks Pal.
AnonHmmmm. I don't get it. No frame of reference to anything.
Do better.
You really are such a Negative guy, always have been. Always trying to put others down despite their huge accomplishments. We are talking about diet and Bodyfat levels, now you are making it about how much gear people take. Larry is the person that should have a Big ego - not you. Constantly talking down to others telling them how it is, you also said you would be no longer giving out any advice on here a while ago - that didn't last long did it.
You think I would leave and let you guys parrot and pretend your way through every post? I'm negative when I see bullshit. I am seeing more and more of it lately then I ever have before. I was a powerlifter with trophies to prove it but what do I know right? I used to have so much positive but some of you guys have made me not want to post science anymore or anything worthy because it doesnt fit your parrot narratives. You have hated me ever since I told you to stop wasting money on useless supplements and gave you science to back it up, Fuck Mack and his proof it doesnt fit my narrative.
I was a state champion football player, I've won 5ks, finished in top 1% in spartan races. Trophies dont mean much unless your at the top of the food chain.
I'm not great on giving advice to others, but I do know what works for me. The best advice I could ever give to anyone is "to learn your own body and mind". I'm seriously here to help learn and to help other people, like me, on their journey maybe with something I've learned along the way.
Wrong - I've hated you ever since you started giving me shit on every comment I've made on here which started 4 years ago. You are basically a Bully in nature, I've seen you do it towards countless people on here but yet you think you are some kind of stand up guy. Then you went through the phase of picking on me together with rusty and 3 other members all taking it in turn. I know what you are and what you stand for. When it comes to the competitions and numbers you claim I don't believe a word of it, you'll say anything to look better than other people.
RustyhookerViking the guru and others? You held a grudge 4 years, posred no pix and remain negstive? Wow...how MONK like. Christian bells ringing....
Rather than be helpful you hold a grudge...cool....i get it. I am sbove that level of bullshit thievery. I was there bro....
What are you talking about you FAT Redneck Turd - I was Good Pals with VIKING you thick, uneducated 5'4 Midget LMAO
Rather than be Helpful??? My Karma is made up from Helpful comments - Yours is made up of 8 years of TROLLING people. I wonder just how many thousands of your comments are made up of Abuse, Trolling, Your Karma Jerk group you were banned for running, the list is never ending.
StevebHe's 5'3" and at least 54 years old
Hey press, I'm a redneck! Lol
No, I am for real.
RustyhookerAnd you? No pix...no trophies....just 20 plus promo reviews.
Sincerely
Hal
Or you meant when you got fired as a mod trainee for bracing sources? Go monk go!!
Nobody here has any Trophies - What are you talking about??!
When you learn to read properly, as I realise you didn't go to school being a poor trailor park Inbred - You'll see half of those are for paid orders. You are the guy that for years were taking promo's from sources and not honouring their reviews, they were calling you out publicly!! You are another fraud who pretends you don't do them but in reality you do many.
Thinking about it you probably have many Trophies for being Burger King's No.1 customer - Chomp Chomp fatty fatty bum bum
Are you going round the bend too? I was a Mod trainee was I? LMAO This is great entertainment .....
You need to answer something Tubby - You've just had a full year off training using the fact your gym was closed as an excuse, when in reality its because you are a Lazy Git who barely ever trains at all. Even before you've started training again you are smashing in Tren which we all know you can't handle as you are mentally weak and paranoid. How can you therefore preach to others about running more than basic test when they are just starting training again? Yet you do way worse!!!!
You are the Irresponsible one constantly giving out horrific advice which you cannot even manage to do yourself, diets specifically.
Have you ever even been less than 30% Bodyfat in your entire life LMAO I bet you were hideous as a kid too.
Why is my karma lower than yours then? Because YOU and your girlfriend's say anything to look better, I would rather be hated by talking the truth then loved for pretending to be someone I'm not . I'm the same way outside of any forum I'm a member of. What you see is what you get.
My Girlfriends? You mean Decent, helpful, Good, honest people. Not nasty little depressed men ....
Molinin302A better example than someone who broke Eddie Halls record in 2020? Set multiple other world records? I don't think he was bashing you bro, I see it as sometimes short fat guys who take drugs and have some strength call themselves powerlifrers in order to excuse themselves looking like they're made out of dough. There's a guy at my gym that's around 6'4" and thinly built. Strong as a effing whip. All he does is powerlift. It's not my area of expertise, but I don't think one has to carry 40% bodyfat and be a former semi-pro soccor player to be involved in the sport.
Molin, record breaking doesnt count if its not in a tournament or recorded on youtube. I saw guys that crushed weights in my gym; I actually go to the powerlifting meets whenever they come to my state and they are here almost all the time. You have untested and tested. The untested is pretty much not even fair lol. But the tested is where the true powerhouses shine. There was a 16 year old boy that benched 850 RAW he was 5 foot 9 I believe and weighed 230, and he wasnt 10% bodyfat. He was a fat fuck. You take wheels and those other guys and put them on trt and then ask them to lift those massive numbers and watch them choke to death on 350 pounds. I train with guys still that off season and off cycle struggle with heavy weights, but during training and on point they could pick me up with one hand, and they are my height and weight. Halo and tren are motherfuckers for strength but its not a switch, it turns off. One dude just joined our gym that is all natty; he is 5 10 245 pounds and raw benched 900 twice, fucking twice. He doesnt have abs; he has a dad bod. He refuses to compete; he just likes being strong. He follows old school lifting and thats why he is at our gym. Bodybuilding and powerlifting are not the same in the sense that bodybuilding is about how big can you be and with low bodyfat, powerlifting is about how strong can you be no matter how fat you are. Of course that also depend on your class. I fucked up once and went in with the heavyweights because I gained too much weight; I slipped 3 discs in my back during a deadlift release. I let my ego get the nest of me and kept gaining size so I could lift heavier and paid a bad price.
OMFG!!! You talk so much shit do you even know what you are saying??!! LMFAO
A 16 year old boy that benched 850 RAW and weighed 230 - So in other words this kid is way stronger than Julius Maddox who weighs in at 400lbs Plus and holds the world record. Seriously STOP, just stop.
An all natty who RAW benches 900 twice - Are you drinking or something?
Fuck now I looked like an asshole because I can't find the 16 year old. It's gone. As far as the guy in my gym, don't give a rats ass if you believe it. It was equipped so maybe raw doesnt count
How Ironic - The video of the 16 year old is gone. How surprising ....
Well yeah - The is a Huge difference between equipped with a massive elastic band on and lifting it by yourself.
And you claim to have competed? You don't even know the difference between RAW and Equipped numbers!!! This gets even funnier.
I know right? I never competed unless you are talking about who got to bang your mom first after she got drunk. Lets bring it you bitter person that is still but hurt about being picked on. Ate a lot of sand as a child at the beach huh?
Uh oh I hear it now.....
Press1, drop the skittles and get away form the swingset, we have you surrounded.....
Go find something else to do you little fuck. Muddied up this post with zero advice but just asshurting.
You talk as if Bullying people is tough and something to be proud of.
Insulting my mother now - what an awful little man.
Still at least you are showing your true colours.
Yawn, I'm done with you.
Molinin302Pretty impressive numbers...
I'm gonna have to leave this page now - that crap nearly gave me a hernia I was laughing that hard.
AnonDid you place/win?
Nope. I didnt stand a chance.
AnonWell shit.
RustyhookerAnd tall fat guys call themselves what exactly? Tall powerlifters? Lol!
But as you said its not your area of expertise. So you should just sit and learn. Adv tag but cant run anavar....
Molinin302Lmao! Fat tub of shit and giving guys that are learning diet advice. You said you felt good on this tren cycle. "Felt" not "feel", so you're at finished product? Close to it? Show the guy that you're telling how to eat what you look like. And yes, I don't claim to know everything about the drugs, thankfully this a place where I can consult with those that do. I stay in my lane and respect others. Post pic up. Tubby. Front, no shirt. No close up of your kneecap lol
AnonI need you to be more appropriate in these modern times. Fat POS or gobass, among friends, are acceptable. Have a little class about you Moli.
Molinin302Duly noted.
RustyhookerSee! We have tons in common. Both fat powerlifters! LmFAo!
But its not your area of expertise do....theres that....
Edit...fat was involved
For the PIN's I would recommend for you either a 25g 1" or 1.25" Blue. Things is Bud is I noticed at 25 test levels were defo on the decline when I was still natty. Now you are 33 this is why you have plateaued probably. Sure there are many methods to explore that could still possibly give you the increases you are after but it will take way longer and will be NOWHERE near your first cycle gains!!
Let me tell you baby LOL The first cycle I did completely blew me away - Just as an example my squat was always weak as shit and that was hitting it hard regularly week in week out. Could not get past 137kg (embarrassing) BUT within 6 weeks I could do 140kg x 6 reps and it just kept on increasing! In fact you'll be pissed you waited for so long in all honesty and even more exciting are all the other compounds that work so well in powerlifting - DBol, Adrol, Tren, Deca, SDrol, M1T, Halo - Now do not go anywhere these mothers at first but when you do once your tendons are matching your muscle strength thats when it really gets Fun!!!
ok, thank you
Welcome. Yes all those are necessary. Sounds like you need to do a little more research if you are wondering about that.
BigCactusTo add to this, get pre, mid cycle and post pct bloodwork done to see where you are at hormone wise.
For pinning glutes 1inch minimum 25G should be fine. I advise to cut down to 12% bodyfat atleast before starting a cycle. 15% is not low bodyfat...