+ 15 How to vote for a source?
Things to consider while voting. Your votes are for all us. They will truly differentiate where the sources are in ranks. you shouldn't just give 10s out because u received your gear or you got it for free.
There are four parts to it: Quality, service, pricing, and delivery
~Quality:
With quality we simply look for gear that is the right amount of mgs/mls . if you have been using gear for a long time , you should have a background of what kind of expectation you should get out of each vial. If you dont know what good gear should be like then dont vote for the quality part.
1) Overdosed Gear
When using say 500mg of test per week, like you always do with Al. however suddenly you feel itchy nipples. but you never felt itchy nipples before on 500mg of test w/ that amount of Al that u always use. Well the reason for this is that you got overdosed gear. Now some people will think this is a good thing, but what if instead of test e, its tren e, now your running around punching walls and dont know why. So why give that source a 10 for giving you the wrong amount of gear while it may have benefited you, it may harm others. i see it all the time. overdosed gear is not always a good thing.
2) Mediocre Gear
ok you got your diet&excerise in check, your making amazing gains then you switch to a different source's gear. Now your still making progress but not on the same pace as the your progress before. You have the right to assume (if nothing about diet/excerise or dose of gear has changed) that your gear might be a little underdosed but its still might be good. the source with mediocre gear does not deserve a 9 or 10 but rather a 8, 7 or even 5. So in closing, If your not getting the usual noticeable strength gains from an AAS compound then you should not give a rate that source with a high rating that says there gear is 100% excellent even if they gave the gear for free. some one else will buy their gear thinking that its excellent when in fact it might be a little under-dosed. if u start and take more dosage depending on how the gains/sideffects balance goes, your gear might be under-dosed. while its hard to determine how much your actually injecting, its still possible to tell if your gear is a little under-dosed. you should feel the difference if your only injecting 350mg of what ever compount instead of 500mg per week.
3) Under-dosed Gear
Its very easy to detect bunk or mislabeled gear. your not gaining any thing, and your getting fat. you ordered test e and suddenly u have deca dick. you got a blood test and your test levels are still at 700ng/dl. all those give the right to give that source a 1 to 4 depending on what you feel is fair.
Quality gear should give you noticeable strength ,size, and depending on your diet you should gain a specific amount of lbs. if your a new or a first time AAS user then you should not comment on the quality of the gear because you have no idea what to expect for you , unless its bunk or mislabeled which is pretty easy to discover then u can vote. if your new, and you only gain 10 lbs and was expecting 20lbs , still you shouldn't leave a bad review because we all respond differently to gear. maybe its not genetically possible for you to gain that 20lbs but 10lbs is your max, you dont know what to expect as a first time user. Once you have completed two or three cycles of the same compound then you have the right to go back and vote for the quality part because now you can compare.
~Service
Did The source answer all your questions and were they professional. were they a source that shipped you the right items. and if they wronged you in anyway, did they at-least try to make it right. if they did all of that then they deserve a 10. its really customer service and how you feel as a customer about the service. very self explanatory
~Pricing
Do you feel that the price and the quality match. I know some sources here are expensive but if they delivered you quality gear that you feel is fair then you should give them a 10. If they are cheap and they give you quality gear, they deserve a 10. if they are cheap and they give you mediocre gear then you should decide between a 9 and a 5 based on the level of quality if the price was fair or not. if they are expensive or cheap and handing out bunk gear then thats a 1 or 2.
~Delivery
If they delivered with in the promise T/A, you should give them a 10. if they delivered a week or two or three later then the promised T/A then they shouldn't get a 10, they should receive between a 9-6 . Sources with fast T/A shouldn't be looked upon as better then slower sources, but rather if they delivered with in that time frame they promised you. easy as that.
~the scale
10- perfect
9- almost excellent but not there yet
8-7 good enough but not the best
6 not meeting the requirement
5 and below . bunk and under-dosed and completely unfair
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Ditto that one, I'm confused and I'm not even blonde….. ;)
you get them by posting pics, writing posts that other people vote up.. contributing to the community and just being around you end up picking them up.. you use them to review but more importantly vote for your sources
Karma comes from giving good advice, self pics, gear pics and generally taking part in the community. You don't really need Karma except for giving SRC and gear reviews. I wouldn't make this about Karma though. Helping people safely use AAS and learning How to safely use AAS is why this forum exists! Heck I'm 37 and cycled gear all through my 20's. I thought I new a lot about gear.Now I'm learning new things daily!
Exactly. Good post.
Thanks for the info it helped a lot I'm a newbie to Eroids so instead of asking every person u just answered almost all my Q
Thanks for this post... will vote on my sources after my first cycle!!
I like this post. Really helpful and gives more to think about when voting. Very nice!
Good post. Thanks
thank you :]
Thanks for the helpful information!
Definitely good info to know appreciate it!!
Very helpful. Being new to the sight I want to learn as much as possible from the people who know as much as possible. I just got my order in but some of the things were missing. So before I vote on anything im going to give them some time to correct the situation. Also what is the best way to build karma points? I am having difficulty finding any information on this.
BilMcbigballsSpot on beast! I just think too many people get so happy when they get there gear in the mail that they vote right away. Haven't even used the stuff yet. Sheez
Great post. Thanks for putting it together!
very informative dude!!
Perfect, good read brotha!!
Good info
Very good stuff Beast! +1
RustyhookerBump
here's an excerpt of mine on another thread after a false review was written out of gratitude for his free gear:
i'm not gonna flame the guy or put him out there for it, but this should serve as an example as to why we should leave honest reviews.
cycoYes,i seen the review,lol. Samples are nice,but it has got out of control. There is a group of guys,who been milking sources for freebies,and posting reviews almost everyday. If you look at there pics,%90 percent are all freebies. These guys will most likely never buy from the source again. I just seen a guy say he got more vascular in his arms,etc from 1 cc of Mtren which all of the sudden,is the magic steroid. I see these guys,and just laugh. Maybe there should be a FREE-BIE FREEZE,oh boy what will these guys do for gear:-)
Yeah brother. I've heard about this group. Freebies and plus one each other to death. Like you, I enjoyed when I was offered to sample and review for sources. But I always reviewed honestly and in due time. Even when I buy from a source and they bug me to review, I wait til I ran it long enough to leave an honest review. That's the way it should be.
I've heard from the grapevine that freebie promos are out the window. Can't wait to see our groups activity dwindle. Lol
cyco:-)
Welcome
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Stickied, stuck, pinned or whatever! Good post beast!
Greekmuscle1Xv always has something good to say +1
great post!!! +1 bud
Joosemanhow can people judge overdosed gear off of a "feeling." To generalize here without having any documents of mass spec tests, is wrong. So, technically a source could sell Test300 with a purity of 94%, which will give someone whom is prone to gyno - gyno at a very low dose. Perhaps their last cycle was bunk, placebo amps that they thought to be pharma which gave them no gyno ?
Agreed, although it seems peoples ties here and who they trust seems to play the biggest role in whos gear is "fire." Now n' days it seems like any lab that sells gear with boxes is a GMP certified lab.. smh for the record, it costs about 1k to have custom boxes done.. thats the printing design and about 10k boxes.. not justification for selling gear at 70-120 per vial because they took 14 seconds to fold it.
Pretty much dead on.. if you're pinning 500mg/week of test and your blood work comes back at 1262 - something ain't right!!!
service - dead on, this is still "buying steroids" which let me remind you all IS NOT LEGAL, so expecting customer service like amazon is nothing but pure asinine given the way people had to get gear before the internet scene! If the source goes out of their way to be honest, not LIE TO YOU and follow through on their word - thats all we can ask for!!
pricing I don't think this is something you can vote on.. how are you going to give a source less than a 10 for pricing? Maybe the source has 20 workers where the guy selling cheaper gear is operating out of his garage. Maybe the source is using real primo raws and the guy selling it at $70 a vial for 200mg/ml is using Bunk Chinese garage or just plain out selling you masteron. The source charging $25 for shipping might have multiple to reshippers to pay which benefits everyone. The source gets popped, and your information is now at the LE's disposal. bottom line, if you don't feel a sources prices are fair, there are 700+ other sources on here to choose from.. but buying then dropping them in rank because you thought their gear was too expensive is bullshit.
delivery cut and dry, if their TA states 7-14 days, you can't rate them lower than a 10 if it comes in 13. Why? because upon ordering you openly knew how long the stated TA was. On top of that, shit happens.. i've seen postal packs go misssing, express packs take 14 days, and normal mail get delivered to wrong states..
Great points!
Most people don't switch gear mid cycle or even get blood tests though
RustyhookerYess!!! Like this!
Beautiful post! Thanks Beast!
looks good and more on topic of the real problem id say, +3
Perfect!
Wow, nice post Xv. +1
sgtstedankoNice! +3
Unfortunately, most of your intended audience is illiterate : (
LMFAO!