What's your favorite test dose?
ok lots of guys run trt doses, some guys stick to 500-600mg and many hit 750
I've noticed I hold a lot more size when test gets in the 1000mg range. So I wanted to know anyone who have hit super high test doses how were the gains? What point did side effects become too much and gains level out?
I've heard 1250-1500 is nice and sides aren't as bad but past that and sides start getting pretty rough. So what's your favorite test dose? I've found out I do better on a high test dose. Even on tren I feel better more aggressive, energetic and good sense of well being when test is high. My recovery is fast when test is high also. Which I do not notice on trt doses.
just interested in hearing what your favorite dose is and why you prefer it over a higher or lower dose
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this is dependent on what other compounds i am running with test. ideally 300-500mg per week, unless i am running decca, then i will up that dose a little bit. like joose said below, when running gh you utilize the test that much more, so more isn't always better, unless you want more sides. right now i am actually on short esters and only using 75mg of prop eod and feel like a million bucks.
GearofWarAny fuk'n dose I can get get my greezy mitts on, of course!
Lol jooseman. More test is equal to more gains... 500mg test e3d and Then magic starts big time. Just needed some letro cauz or headaches Form high BP caused by high Walter retention from estro.
All was pharma and 500mg e5d compared to 500mg e3d is completely different! Gains werde Better Than with The most bunk tren`s. Vascularity went crazy after 2 months also.
Although when it comes to test difference between pharma and good ugl isnt that huge. Compared To Hgh where pharma is a completely different level than some China kigtropin etc
And as The threadopener stated Regeneration was highly increased compared to some useless 300mg/Week.
Thanks for your response. Thats a pretty big dose 500 e3d. I see letro helped you control estro at that dose. Good to know.
As for kigs, that's no comparison because kigs aren't even real HGH!!
Man I don't know who you are but honestly you couldn't have picked a worse person to call out! jooseman is to steroids as John Pemberton is to Coke-Cola lol.
Joosemanyou sir are a dumbfuck. I wasn't going to be arrogant, but since you felt the need to mock my comment and talk out of your ass.
I understand you disagree jooseman but he did talk about what I wanted to know from this post. 500 e3d would equate to 1100-1200mg per week. Massive difference compared to 300-400/wk. Also at 1100mg letro is likely to not knock out estrogen completely considering the high amount of aromatase conversion from test.
AnonCan you smeeeeellll what the Joosemans cookin ????? (psst Time to raise one eyebrow joose )
Time to lay the smack down on some candy ass lolololol
Sorry I was always entertained by the rock ;)
I love the Rock he came over before on a USO tour and met with us he was hysterical!
Jooseman300-400mg of pharma, all day.
message for those running several GRAMS of test - this is SO counterproductive, its stupid. Your body and axis can only "use" for lack of better words a certain amount.. the rest is going to waste. However, judging by the recent total tests of guys who have been posting lab work saying their sources gear is fire - you'd need about 6 grams a week to get to that point lol.
Yeah pharma seems to be the way to go. I'll be sure to get some human grade amps, If only EQ and Tren were pharma grade !!
I have some 60ml vet grade equi... cant buy it on here i get from a local gym... its golden like tren ace.
Nice! Sounds like fun. Perfect for cutting pip too
I bet that's awesome! How many mg's/ml?
its only 150mg/ml bro but its the real deal ... like we compare 500mg of pharma test to a gram of UGL this will be the same... i will stick a piccie up sometime let you have a look at it ok
Appreciate it brother
I ran a trt dose of test for just over a month now so long ago and just felt like utter shit! So ive been cruising on around 420-450 for a few weeks and my whole worlds changed! I felt depressed and low libido and my head felt like it was full of fog :/ its prob due to it being ugl and underdosed but honestly why cruise on trt if you could run a bit more and 'feel' much better.. Lifes about being happy right so fuk trt lol ;p blast that shit!!
agreed I switched my test from 250 to 400-500 and feel Way better. I get those exact same feelings like head is cloudy and depressed and libido drops with low dose
Well...... ive just dropped back from 2Gs of UGL test down to just 500mg of pharma and i feel fkn superb!... gaining like FK again :).... not sure just yet if its the 4iu of HGH or my beloved parabolan thats sparked this growth spurt off or the synergy of all 3 together???..... but i must admit this is the best working stack ive put together for a while.
Tiny stack for me totalling 1.1 grams of oil.... zero orals..... hopped on the scale just before i wrote this 235lbs in training pants and socks... slight water over abs but still very vascular everywhere and BF as usual still 10 or below i would estimate.... so im pretty fkn happy right now,another 7lbs and still in this condition i will be over the fkn moon.
500mg pharma test, hgh and parabolan! wow sounds like you are enjoying yourself right now!
If you don't mind telling which amps are you using? I like the Organon sust amps but haven't tried any other human grade amps
I'll be on hgh real soon here I been saving up money. I might as well pick up some pharma test while I'm at it =)
Bayer... testoviron brother, and if you check in my profile gear pics you will see which brand parabolan... mixed in the same barrel for a real sweet pin.... its that smooth you can put it anywhere bro
Nice yeah I'll have to try those out. Never used tren hex I'll grab some of those as well
JoosemanHGH allows the feedback axis to "use" more test, making that 500mg (although its pharma) probably feel like you're running a gram of (pharma)
good stuff VIKE! BOOM!
That's good news considering I'm going to be starting HGH soon!
yeah thats what i learned from the HGH thread so i thought .. right lets test the theory out right now!.... so i have and its working like magic.... seriously i feel like i am on my first ever cycle all over again which we all know is like the most productive one ever even with our heads stuck up our asse,s about real nutritional practices.
I need to speak to you in PM but not until friday bro..... one of my girls has picked up some" tren base"... i saw it last week but need to take a piccie..... its in pharma packaging.. boxed amps!... i never seen that shit before and i need your opinion brother whether its kosher or not... i cant fully remember but i think its dosed at 80mg/ml ??...... anyways wait till i get that piccie then lets have some expert opinion please my man.
Joosemansounds like good ol' alpha if I had to make a 10 second guess lol.. PM me whenever boss and we'll discuss it.
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Viking is not a man but a Nordic god so please kiddies do not try to do this at home as it will not make you a god but it could cost you lots of money! Lmao!!!!
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Hey pank.. you tried that mushroom room trick yet brother... you are the only one on here i have shared that with and im keeping it that way, im sick of my stuff being robbed and bastardized..... you run the protocol bro then hit some pics up then NOBODY can claim my tricks are theirs.. because that trick is unknown on these boards.. thats a fact.
Damn now you got me googling mushrooms and weight gain haha! ;p ps hows it going big vike! Have you been watching the ashes ;p
Oz oz oz!! OI OI OI!
Look into it brother and pick Viking's brain you won't believe the results
I eat them quite a bit actually bro i love em ;p theres nothing better than a good ol butter mushroom sauce over a nice thick rump!
Im thinkin the weight gains could have something to do with the salt? (Without knowin what vikes methods are ;p ) cause they hold a massive amount of salt if cooked in butter or whatever.. And obviously salt holds water eh?! Or is it something to do with the shear amounts yous eat? Theyre digested very quickly so nutrient uptake would also
Be fast..?!
Yes that is what he said! and I noticed that in training not having that heavy feeling like with other carbs. That is interesting about the salt I will keep an eye out on that because salt bloats me easily. So far I actually have come out grainy.
I love mushrooms!! This sounds like a great idea
Hey I love mushrooms!!!! Did you find these magic mushrooms under a cow turd??? Lol!
I did I was in Dubai so I had the chef of a client prepare a tray load for me and it worked exactly as you said I had energy through the roof and muscle fullness blew away any carb loading I have ever done. All my guys the next day were like WTF it looks like you gained 15lbs over night so they are eating mushrooms like a mutha f*ker! As always brother your sharing is priceless and I am super grateful that you share with me these things that I would never have known in a million years.
Everything you teach brother turns to gold!!!!
750 Test E or 525 Test P =)
I'm assuming that's Pharma Test E =]
Bayer Testoviron. You know me too well by now LOL
the highest dose of test i have ran is 1800mgs a week of test e alone, i bloated up alot and held alot of water, my face went all squinty and i had chinese eyes and double chin, i was running nolvadex at 20mgs a day with letro every 2nd day @ 2.5 mgs from weeks 8-12, i gained around 11kgs on that run and kept 8.5 after pct, i ran pct for 5 weeks, i think in reality 750 is a sweet spot for any cycle (not beginners), im a big fan of test only cycles and they do work and you feel great all the time, my strength went through the roof!!!
Really I loved Organon sust. Oh well it's not for everyone. Prop doesn't give me pip at all It just gets old injecting daily.
Thanks I might try out 1000mg Pharma test E cycle with low dose deca 250-400 and see how I feel. Hopefully no libido issues when i ran test/deca at 650/400
yep!!! viking wrote the best brand of pharma for test e above!!! love the shit!!!! it cost more but is worth it, am i allowed to say the brand name??
1800 wow! Have you ran doses from 1000 to 1250? How does that compare to 750?
yes ive ran a gram a week of pharma grade sustanon(oragon) (spelling), was not a fan!! I just don't like sust, I believe I do notice a difference between 750 and a thousand, in strength and size, but then again it was sust and I think I grew bigger of 600mgs of test e, you see I ran a lot of test only cycles, before I went onto deca etc, I don't like sust and I don't like prop, prop gives me severe pip, and for some reason I don't respond well with sust, ( to any beginners or younger guys- do not run these doses)
I've ran 2 grams of test e before with a lower dose of NPP. For me it was awesome, I had to use letro 1.25 mg e3d to control estro and used it with proviron. Sides were low, good feeling throughout, aggression was perfect and gains were very good. This was in a shic style blast for 6 weeks though.
Awesome! Thanks for the input. If I ever go past 1250 I'll be sure to use letro
Well I always used 250-750.. right now I'm on 1000 and yes there is a difference but I don't think it is anything crazy.. I will say I had to up my AI
750 for trt year round seems a bit excessive.. I always wondered about a low dose of tren with a trt test cruise like vind is talking about below me.. Sides for me on tren were very minor compared to the horror stories I've heard
I'm with you on that I don't get bad sides on tren. 750 trt... interesting lol Idk about that haha
I have to say i think you would really like it my sides with tren are also very minor i'm keeping it simple 225mg of test pp and 360mgs on tren ace a week started with 300mg even ...upped it a little my 4th week ... very lean gains cutting fat ..strength is through the roof but i'm taking it easy on massive weight shoulder started hurting with the increase of weight i was pushing let that power go to my head rookie mistake
I ran my tren high with trt dosed test for a cycle and had great results.. I've just never known any one who cruised with tren and test.. So you're cruising with those short esters or is this a cycle?
that I am and i feel great and even better since i started pinning ED witch i thought id hate but it's not so bad .. right, left glut ...right, left delt ... right, left quad but my next run will be test e and tren e an maybe jump the dose of tren up and see what kind of results that yields but all and all me personally i'm getting the bang for my buck... results 10 --- sides 1 doesn't get much better then that my friend
it's a cycle with the tren cutting it off around the 10 to 12week mark an keep the trt dose of test rolling to 14weeks or so