+ 13 Weight restricted AAS users
There has been a lot of debate and discussion about AAS use and guys in weight restricted sports getting flamed because they're not "training to their natty potential before using aas." That is always a bodybuilder who says it. It's ignorant and narrow minded unless you know for certain that the guy is a bodybuilder. This site is an AAS site, not a bodybuilding site (I don't care who's tired of hearing that). You guys don't seem to grasp the concept. Some of you anyway. I'm just going to give you a glimpse into the physical punishment a weight restricted athlete goes through to maintain and make weight before their event. They train hard and use aas to intensify that training. They do NOT want to pack on weight which is why 9x out of 10 there is no test base. As absurd as you may think that sounds, they understand the risks they take and just like bodybuilding is your passion and you take risks to achieve your goals, so do they. Are you better than them? I don't think so! I lived it and I know the pain I endured to keep and make weight. This is a clip from a recently aired show following a fighter 2 days pre-fight. The physical and mental challenges they endure. Not to mention the money they stand to lose if they come in over weight even by a half pound. The way they weaken their body and mind to keep weight. My hope is it will give you a better perspective into their world and even a little compassion along with the respect they deserve. This is Mikey Garcia shedding excess weight 2 days pre fight to weight in at the light weight limit. Horrible to watch. Even worse to go through.
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I wrestled way back in high school about 10 years ago and cutting weight was not out of the ordinary. I did it. Everyone on the team did. I've always had a lot of respect for what these fighters put themselves through. This is a great reminder for everyone to be more open minded and less harsh in their judgements of others. Video was a great example to get an idea of what these guys go through.
I agree with all of this but I am biased, because I have and always will consider myself a wrestler/Thai Fighter more than a bodybuilder. I have had to start making weight for wrestling all the way from my freshman year in high school up through 4 years of college. Then I had to do the same for another 6 years of profession Thai Boxing bouts.
Take a look at our ED who had to cut a load of muscle weight recently to compete in the Greco Roman Wrestling that he won. At his age that is no small feat. I like post like this because they are not about fighting or bodybuilding but instead about the real common bond here which is steroid use for are betterment and goals. I can go on about how for a fact if I had not gotten into aas usage and doing it the right way through the guidance of my endo & eroids I would have had to retire right now.
I believe the real strength of the brotherhood and sisterhood that is shared here is based on the unity on what this site is about which is AAS usage for all realms of goals and activities. Because of the large amount of help that I have received from bodybuilders here is really why I came to respect bodybuilding. Because the bodybuilders that helped me didn't shun me because I was more interested as an athlete, TRT , and fighter.
This part that Nitti posted is dead on for the MMA guys that I know that use. Also guys in the special forces do to the need of endurance and stamina. I will also say that I have done no test cycles getting ready for an extended stay in the certain regions of the world and I was more than good. Also my bloods confirming this. It doesn't mean I would always do this but I have done it with success in order to give me the edge I needed for certain environments.
I believe what makes Eroids the largest success is because unlike other sites that really are about bodybuilding alone this place is about knowledge and no bullshit for every aspect of aas usage.
If only more members backed me up and helped support these guys when they pop up on the board, we wouldn't have so much of an issue with it.
I have not seen one issue with this believe it or not so I don't know where the hell my eyes are. Please if you see something give me the link because I agree this can so easily and amicably be put to rest.
ClassyChassisPeople always see the world from their perspective. And since a large number of people use AAS because they're insecure about their size, the underlying assumption is that is the sole reason for their use.
I think it's obvious that fighters are more athletes than bodybuilders. How is standing on stage in your underwear making faces like you're constipated even considered a sport? But as far as who is better? We're all going to die, and that makes us all 100% equal.
You do bring up an important point that we are all individuals and have individuals goals and reasons. That's why I don't usually advise people in what they should do period. I'm not in their skin.
I agree with everything above except in aspect of bodybuilding not being a sport. In my ignorance of BB before I would of said that isn't a sport just like I wouldn't think golf is a sport.
But by the truest definition of the word sport they both are
Sport- noun:1an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/sport
They just have a different set of rules and exertions that are put forth. But this below what you wrote could not be said better imo!
You do bring up an important point that we are all individuals and have individuals goals and reasons. That's why I don't usually advise people in what they should do period. I'm not in their skin.
Great perspective. Without bashing bodybuilding and calling them non-althletes, I especially like the first paragraph because those guys who have insecurity issues (and tend to be younger) are the ones who seem to do the shit slinging. It's always the recreational users that have the most to say.
ClassyChassisYeah, I wasn't trying to bash anyone, just interjecting a little levity. I've gone through comp prep and standing onstage in my underwear making faces, which is probably why I can appreciate the humor. But it's actually quite grueling and not easy by any means. I just think it's more of a beauty pageant than a sport if you think about it.
AnonI always love the fighter vs. bodybuilder references you make bro: "what are you gonna do, lift him?" lol! preach, brother!
Sometimes they think they're bad ass cuz they're bigger! The one that comes to mind is something I said to a guy in a real life encounter. "What do you think I'm Gona stand here and let you lift me muthafucker?" after being talked to like I had no chance. THat was fun! It's always entertaining to see the look on a bigger guys face when he is looking up at me from te seat of his pants In shock from a nasty lightning quick straight left.
AnonThe scariest guys are the ones who move in silence. Who can make a call, say a word, and shit hits you when you're least expecting it. Intelligence.
Only a fool goes into another man's area of expertise and boasts about being better them him. It is always good to know the world has no shortage of fools
Anonso I guess our 10 mile race with 60 pounds of gear strapped to us is a no-go? LOL
ClassyChassisIt's like a boxer expecting me to stand their and trade head shots with him. What I'll probably do instead is drop to one knee and fire a dozen shots into his groin before he knows what's happening. I don't box a boxer, I don't grapple with a grappler, I don't challenge a powerlifter to a deadlift competition. If someone gets in my space I intend to prevail obviously, but I never make assumptions and neither should they.
Me either I just swim really fast!
ClassyChassisHa ha