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VIKING EVOLUTION........

My very first post here I was torn a new asshole by Viking. I was pissed and insulted, and thought who the hell does this guy think he is? It's a good thing the hammer was in the shop having brain matter and singed hair removed from it, or I would have probably felt the wrath. After my post was done I started looking at the words on the screen I found motivation. The was the thing with Viking he could be hard on you, but if you could take you were going to come out stronger. He was one of those guys that when he was logged on and in the forums, most guys would click on every thread he was in just to see what was gonna happen. Whether it was a ban followed up with, knob rot, toss pot, mouth on a stick, cunt, or a polite Get To Fuck! Then he would drop a little piece of info that was golden. Under all that brawn was a guy who cared and wanted to see people find there inner self and succeed. If it sounds like I'm nut hugging, that's fine cause I am. I'll gladly swing from those old balls.

I have tried to put my notes together and things I remember him saying and put them in a post. He wiped all of his forum posts. I could tell at the end he was just tired of it, can't say that I blame him, but there is more out there than this internet world. Here are some things that I can think of. If anyone out there has anything else, please add it. I know some of you may not have liked him, and that's fine, but I want this post to be a place we can use to find the valuable information he left. Let's hope that someday he returns, but until then lets keep his words fresh and not buried in the relics.

Viking Mass Gaining Shake

500 ml of whole milk
1 cup of oatmeal
2 scoops of whey
2 tbs of almond butter
1 banana

Calories: 1,006 Protein: 84

Pussies Need Not Apply Shake

1 can of tuna and 1 can of your favorite soda

Blend together and down that bitch.

3 a day will give an extra 100 g of protein

Wanna Get Ripped?

Carb window 7 a.m. to 2 p.m.
After 2 p.m. NO carbs of any kind
This should only be done for about 4 weeks.
200 lb male should stay around 100 g of Carbs.

IM Protocol for Damaged Fascia

2ml in each delt head +2 = 12mls in total, all done with 27G slin pins.... ZERO intra-muscular damage and the whole body is still left for heavy rotation if need be.

Fascia stretching that i see mentioned below is from pinning too much oil and actually tearing the mitochondria.... this is THE most common mistake lots of people make and then complain that they have lost a pinning spot through scar tissue build-up....... if a muscle belly that refuses to take oil anymore from scar tissue build up it needs to be rested for something like 6/8wks and it WILL become supple again and ready to re-accept oil.

Intra-muscular scarring is not like the scar tissue we have on our external body.... IM scar tissue will and does self repair at a pretty fast rate.... high protein and high collagen intake turbocharges this repair process.

Heavy massaging after pinning is lethal for tissue damage..... refrain from this activity and watch the difference.... even if you get a little lump after pinning.... just leave it alone and do not be tempted to start rubbing it or doing the stupidest, most damaging thing i ever saw written on this board..... rolling the lump with a fkn paint roller lmfaooooo.

Other Viking Advice

I know you do brother.......... you are one of those guys that now utilises all these added tweaks and looses NOTHING during PCT whereas the ones i am aiming at are more or less dropping back to normal start weight pre-cycle?........ because they dont keep the PMA (positive mental attitude) or the high cal diet in place (if bulking)...... training turns belly up because interest and the well-being feeling of being "ON" is lost......... mental focus during PCT should be kept high by concentrating on either the creatine/BCAA cycle or even better if stacked with a PEPTIDE combo........... there is enough pinning to concentrate on in a PEP run to keep even the most hardcore ED roid pinner happy............... running like this there are ZERO downsides and only more SUCCESS because gains made on the roid run will NOT be lost and the up-side is that FURTHER gains are generally made with protocols like this........... so really at the end of the day the person should never have to fkn moan that he is "OFF CYCLE" because this this way of utilising compound, PEPS and supps (creatine/aminos) really means that we are NEVER OFF....... there are no breaks , the complete year can be utilised with 2 cycles and 2 SUPER CHARGED PCTs.

NOW!!........... if nobody finds this of interest i am totally wasting my fkn time here.............. doesnt matter the level of advancement...... Beginners, Intermediates, or Advanced (even TRT blast/cruise) can utilise this protocol to take massive leaps in enhancement using this method............. but the real magic is that it keeps us from hitting the deck with this "off cycle" phenomenon that wipes peoples focus out........ HIGH focus and HIGH concentration means we hit the gym in BEAST MODE every single fucking workout!... instead of just the poxy 12wks when we think thats the time to beast it just because we are "ON"

Get your asses in gear fuckers and try this............ come back and tell me it don't work....:/

I agree bro......... far better to have in the arsenal than ANY Generic GH............ far cheaper and far less chance of having broken amino chains with the relevant numbers all in place.

GHRP-2 is 2nd Generation (Growth Hormone Release Peptide)... chosen for use when the massive appetite is NOT required i.e.. when cutting or lean maintenance is required (i refuse to say lean bulk because to me bulking is pure bulking)...... was designed purely to give GH pulse without the Ghrelin stimulation that promotes the notorious monster appetite that GHRP-6 creates.

I personally prefer GHRP-6 because i need fairly high calories even when aiming to get ripped ... when i drop calories too low my metabolism slows and the fat burning furnace eases off, so i very rarely drop below 3000 cals even in the latter stages of a prep diet....... high androgens and hefty dosages of MT2 at prep stage usually knocks the appetite to the deck so GHRP-6 comes in handy for some Ghrelin pulses and helps me to keep noshing the grub.

Brother you know i have run some serious monster stacks with all the "so called" soothing combos mixed in, you know deca/eq mix for ligaments and tendons etc..... no matter how much gear we run we must attack it with the relevant work load.

You nailed it when you mention using ALL the training principles! either straight forward or mix and match to keep the muscle guessing which angle you plan to attack it from... and get your head around the Tonnage principle, meaning add and keep adding volume to each and workout while the big stack or blast is in place.... make the mind take the body to a whole new realm of pain...... you must go balls out and aim to create DOMS that would make a fkn Bull limp lmao!............. no DOMS means we are NOT hitting our full work load potential and that should be the short term goal to strive for each and every time we visit the house of pain.

Go at it like a man possessed bro........... another tip is on exercises that require a lock out at the top of the movement i.e benching or pressing etc......... DO NOT hit the lock out, every time we lock out we momentarily take all tension out of the working muscle, try a few reps without lock out and slow controlled negative movement and come tell me that you dont feel the difference Smile

TRy to be ultra strict again... i.e try all deltoid head work sat down instead of standing to kill all body momentum.... all little tricks to enhance the stimulation of the working muscle and create mega micro cellular damage which is the name of the game Smile

"Best thing on ER for me is that i have met and made friends with some fantastic people who are also fully immersed into this way of life,we have BBs,Boxers and a mixture of other sporting backgrounds which for me when all this knowledge and experience is thrown into the pot makes for some powerfull info you cannot get anywhere else.
You could spend a lifetime trying to reap this kind of info,all it takes is for the member to sit and read then digest the info to better themselves in ways they thought impossible.
Real life experience is priceless i personally respect all members who have given and proceed to give freely. :)"

"I have said this 10 million times but im gonna say it again for new readers...... YOU CAN CRUNCH TABLETS AND PIN GEAR UNTIL IT RUNS OUT YOUR FKN EARHOLES..... YOU CAN BRAG TO ME THAT YOU USE MORE GEAR THAN 20 IFBB PROS!!..... BUT THE SIMPLE FACT REMAINS .... IF YOU CHOSE TO EAT LIKE A FKN BIRD YOU WILL LOOK LIKE A FKN BIRD...... CHOSE TO EAT LIKE A GNARLY FKN MONSTER!..... GUESS WHAT? THATS RIGHT.... YOU WILL BECOME THAT MONSTER IN YOUR DREAMS............ FOOD IS MAGIC GUYS!!........ NOT.. STEROIDS

LIKE A BOSS "Yeah i have a fridge fitted in the back of my Range Rover for food and PEPs when im out and about........"

"Dont bother with all the rubbish from the supp shops............ just use fresh pineapple.. the flesh is packed with Bromelain .. thats the most powerful digestive enzyme known to man (apart from hydrochloric acid lol )... eat 4/6ozs after each meal and notice the difference in your digestive capabilities within hours."

Vitamin C protocol - "On cycle you will see a noted increase in cuts and vascularity if you take 500mg 3 x daily.......... you must split doses because it is water soluble and if you hit it all first thing in the morning you will just piss it out and be void of C for most of the rest of the day.

Last 10 days of prep i hit 15,000mg ED with a little potassium supp to help balance things (dizziness through dehydration if not real careful)..... bananas look after my pott normally but they are out on preps."

Half Life Cleave. Learn the half lives of your compounds and follow it.

"anyone seriously considering using AAS should have already used ALL supps that are "suppossed" to build mass and know the effects of each,natural progression through the ranks of foodstuffs and supps usually when all are mastered AAS is/should be the next chapter,just my opinion on this one bro :)"

"Peanut butter is a good idea with any oral just to slow the release then we dont burn the gut which is what causes the problems... the cycling is only for drol because it is renowned for having the worst binding affinity of any steroid, so it platues quick in the body and results slow down or stop altogether!.. the cycling theory keeps the body accepting the hormone for short periods of time and in turn allowing the drol to work at 100% absorbtion... which is what we all want instead of pissing it out and over-taxing the liver unneccasarily.... all make sense when you think it through and know your binding affinities for different compounds brother."

" Expect none from either if you train heavy like me............ train nice and moderate and the best joint care is both EQ and deca together....... forget any type of soothing from either when you enter a leaning out phase because you will not hold the same amount of fluids in the Bursa sacs that protect the joints........... best way to have nice loose painless joints is to go on a full balls to the wall bulker with massive carb and fluids intake........ plenty of cod liver oil drank from the bottle neck is what helps me too, forget all this milligram business just neck it like water."

"Most folk are scared to death of bulking thinking that they will get really fat!..... if nutrition is within controlled ratios and most importantly get training intensity fkn spot on you wont lay down much fat......... very little is mentioned on this board about training!!... its like its the least important part of the whole gig to most folks, and should be the paramount part of any cycle/blast etc....... fuckers are not gaining on massive stacks with GH/slin and all other types of exotics purely because they have forgotton (or never known lol) how to fkn train correctly with proper intensity,volume,tonnage ete etc etc............ people hit me up in PM and ask for training tips then just discard the info and do there own thing and constantly fail to gain at speed... it bores me reading how they think they "know it all" but cannot come up with the goods and bomb the picture section to make my eyes bleed............ i get the feeling most eroiders just love using gear in large amounts and are happy to hang around 200lbs forever purely through self ignorance.............. everbody has this thing now that "you must use GH on every cycle" WTF all generic GH is bullshit anyway and is doing fiuck all for anybody except empty their fkn pockets imo.... they must run IGF-1and blah blah blah compound!!........ get the fuck outa here!! i built and maintained what i have without all this fkn shit..... proper eating and blood curdling fkn intensity is the key... long term not a fkn couple of months like these pricks believe.................. fuckin wimps!!!!!"

"Eat and train like a man possessed by the devil.............. you will be ok."

" Funny that you mention creatine............ i 100% truly believe and have witnessed it with my own eyes that when creatine and BCAAs are run correctly with a good diet the gains far outweigh those made with the basic 500mg 12wk test cycle............ i actually have a picture of my own son (27) who has just completed the above and looks fkn awesome........ 216lbs @6% BF........... never touched a single steroid in his life yet."

Read this entire post (http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/switching-compounds-so-...)

"Slow controlled negatives are the king for growth.....PERIOD"

"growth starts in the kitchen micro trauma to muscle cells happens in the gym then you must return to the kitchen to feed them and repair them, then you must keep doing this over and over consistantly to produce and hold further gains AAS used correctly will help and speed up this process but believe me when i tell you this brother THE KITCHEN is the start the middle and the end game if you want to proceed any further with your goal."

"Optimal amount of protein on a daily basis bro for ultimate growth and recovery is 2.2 grams pr lb of bodyweight.. this has to be monitered and recalculated weekly depending how much weight you gain, get a calculater pop in 2.2 multipled by your bodyweight ..that is your answer.. for me i say optimal even on the juice as anymore will be wasted, be sure to spread out this daily amount so that when the receptors are in pick-up mode your bloodstream is ALWAYS flooded with high quality proteins and amino acids,these are the building blocks then we have collagen which is the bodies glue which holds all this matter together which in turn forms larger muscles ok."

"Fact is people want to run before they can walk! ultra complicated cycle plans with very little experience can only lead to one thing! FAILURE and some saddo with his head up his arse complaining the gear was bunk! WTF happened to steady progression......"

This is what I got for now. If I think of more I will add. If there are things you guys remember post it and I will add it to the main body. We at least owe this to him.

jansen's picture

Woah head did i miss...... where's v?

PIN_CUSHION's picture

MIA. I think he put his time in and was done. Sucks, but I get it. Hopefully he drops back by sometime.

jansen's picture

Well shit! Im actually bummed out about this shit! I sure am glad i wrote down a few things before he left!

Greg's picture

In time we'll uncover the lost scrolls and have a more complete view of this god of a man we called Viking.

Until then we'll need to rely on this bit of text and oral tradition

Pale's picture

True story, the first time I used tren ace I sent Viking a pm and apologized. I was that worried about disappointing a man I have never meant in person.. Crazy but true. lol

Engineereddisaster's picture

Man I love big Vike, no homo.
Especially the days when he was in the trenches. Holy shit I had a good time with that guy. That monster taught me a lot.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

It's an easy way to get the extra protein. You blend the two together so you can drink it as opposed to eating tuna.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

There's some out there that get you 33 per serving.

Pale's picture

It actually tastes alright. Diet pepsi, one can of tuna and a dash of cinnamon, blend it up and serve.

aronl's picture

I hope he comes back. He's bigger loss than Muta. Beyond the knowledge and experience he was just a great guy. Closest thing to a training big brother. I still dont completely understand some tactics he told but they always worked.

robb's picture

Yeah i really miss Viking, not in the least way ashamed to say it. He was the life n soul of this place imo. Think I'll just leave it at that.

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Mag the Mighty's picture

The Viking mass gain shake was
-500ml whole milk, 1 & 1/4 cups ground oats, 2 scoops whey protein, and 4tbsp of almond butter. I make a scaled down version of it still twice a day. When I started downing these twice a day is when I learned the true power of food for making gains.

Fearless's picture

Tuna and soda lol badass

DBG's picture

Sad losing very important members like him. Guess that's what happened...this place turned into a daycare with adult sized man babies bringing about a Facebook curse and Vike had to cut his ties

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Sad but true.

DBG's picture

Vike was one of the first members I talked to. I said some shit about nutrition and training and he's like 'drop me a line, we could build something here'

PIN_CUSHION's picture

I know the Wanna Get Ripped program worked for you.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

I remember you summarized all his answers in one post, that's all I'm trying to do. Make his info readily available.

Pale's picture

I believe it was even heavier than that on the vitamin c

PIN_CUSHION's picture

I'm thinking it was around 3,000-5,000 daily. I know Catalyst has exp with this.

Pale's picture

I do at least a 1000 every day and it seems to help keep water bloat down especially if using orals.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

From what I've read you can't have to much Vitamin C, and it's pretty harmless until you get into the amounts Viking was referring to(10,000+), which most people wouldn't even think of.

SL's picture

Vike!!!!!!

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vhman's picture

Thanks for posting this. I know he took down most of what he posted over the years.
Vike always had a settling effect on the site. I think that is missed greatly. Sometimes folks don't appreciate what they have until it's gone... Hopefully he'll be back.

Makwa's picture

You have been taking some pretty good notes. You have everything that I have and more!

Pale's picture

Excellent Pin Cushion. I owe that man more than I can say. He inspired me, he helped me and was patient with me. I learned so much from him and his words.

Maybe if we all PM him he will hear us and pop in?

LOL, I hope he don't get mad at me for that idea.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

I sent him one a while back, no reply :(

Pale's picture

Me too. But I bet he is still getting notifications, lol. Could be wrong but it is all we have.

cry_havoc's picture

Vike was the shit no doubt! I hate that he left.

konig's picture

He is the best... can't believe he wiped all of his posts.. what a fucking shame.. +1 brother thanks for posting this!

stretch_95's picture

Those post were there just the other day, because I looked at some of them.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

He's had his forum posts wiped for some time now. Comments he's made on other posts are still there, just not the forums he created.

Makwa's picture

I'll try and dig up some of the nuggets I saved from him to add to this.

MONK's picture

Awesome man, nice work! It's never nut hugging when it comes to paying homage to one of the realist, baddest brothers who ever graced these lands Biggrin
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PIN_CUSHION's picture

You got that right.

fusebox's picture

I'm just like you evrytime he was on I would follow him in the shadows and every time I saw him post something I would immediately have to go read it.

Thanks for posting this info. It's nice to have it all on one place.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

It's far from all of it, but hopefully others post what they remeber and the list keeps growing.

fusebox's picture

I think this might have to be sticky material. That way it's on top right where Vike should be