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+ 2 UC (ulcerative colitis) suffer since 2008 looking for help age 34

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Hello All,
I am new to this community and I am trying to learn more about HGH and Testosterone. Currently I am suffering on and off from UC and looking for some help. Trying to repair my gut lining between each flare has become impossible I read on a form that hgh can really help with this along with allowing a good nights sleep. I have not slept well in over 5 months. I am reaching out to doctors to help prescribe Anavar and HGH (Dont laugh I have read they have before in the past) but lately Doc's outside of TRT will not touch this stuff with a 10 foot pole. Currently I am unable to afford trt at 800-2300 a month so looking for a cheaper alternative. I have read that 2ui a day is the sweet spot can anyone shine some light on this. Especially if any fellow Chrons or UC are using hgh or test / Anavar

http://www.rajeun.net/crohns.html

necromega's picture

Everything fucks with my Crohn's. I basically live of off chicken rice, fish and veggies juice. Too much fiber sends me to the bathroom.

I have done several rounds of hgh and it help for a spell. The problem is as soon as I'm off the. It's creeps back in slowly.

Bcp is great if your source is good. I take mine orally and it's helped. Also glutamine will help repair your intestinal track.

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Yeah l glutamine is a must. I take it 2-3 time s a day. BPC-157 is a miracle drug as well. I have seen it stop bloody stools within a day as if I was taking heavy cortisone steroids. If u get off HGH the problem comes back you need to run at least 1-2 iu a day.

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Update I have started my first AAS cycle 5 weeks ago. Currently running Test C at 400mg a week split into 2 dosages pinning M and Th along with 60mg a day of Var and BPC-157 @ 50mcg along with my enema. So far the gains have been great and close to my goal weight

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CBBurrr's picture

var fucked with my gut, but I may try again and see what happens.\

recently discovered eggs fuck with me and gave them up too.

maybe now that im egg free the Var will be OK.

gluten free, dairy free, alcohol free, egg free.....

and my wife eats gluten so I cant even eat her ass anymore. I asked her to go gluten free for my birthday, just so I can eat dat ass for a few days.

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I agree with Juice Ass is Life

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Just following up on a spreading some information on a diet that has been good on my stomach. So if any other fellow UC suffers want to try it please be my guest.

The negatives is you will always be out of eggs.. Costco will be key I got from 160 lbs to 180 lbs in about a year. But cant get much past my current weight I have been flat lined for about 4 months.

Breakfast 9 egg whites and 1 whole egg scrambled with 1 teaspoon of coconut oil
Lunch 1 Beef 90% lean at 12oz
Lunch 2 Chicken breast 10 oz with veggies steamed 1 cup 1 teaspoon coconut oil
Dinner 1 Chicken Breast 10 oz 2 cups of cooked rice white or brown
Dinner 2 Turkey with 14 oz of sweet potato steamed. --. usually I am stuffed at this point

Macro break down is
300g of protein +/- 5%
275g of Carbs
85g of fat --> this number can change depending on % of fat in meat and added fat to git you goals

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ForrestG's picture

Just reading your post and I have a similar GI problem just wanted to let you know what works for me. Tianeptine sulfate has just about eliminated 95% of my symptoms. Before I would get sick and nauseous that would for sure screw up my gym time and intensity. Tianeptine sulfate is only treating the symptoms I know but I was very worried about being able to stay in shape when I came down with a GI disease. Im now back at 100% and making gains. I would be interested in seeing what peptides like BPC and TB500 can do but its expensive

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Hey ForrestG can you give a run down on the dosage timing etc? BPC-157 is expensive but it works. As soon as I see a drop of blood I run BPC-157 and over night it is gone. As far as Tianeptine sulfate seems to have an effect in your overall mood. I wonder if this causes a decrease in chemicals in the brain to cause a flare attack... interesting...

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I first started on the high end around 2-250 a day for the first month now im down to 100 EOD. The main reason why it works is because it slows down gut motility. So it gives your GI a break from having to process and move... Kinda paralyzes it allowing it to recouperate. You can find it on nootropics websites.

Whats your BPC dosage and timing? Where do you inject it?

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I put it into my masalamine enema and administer it via rectum. Dosage is about 100mcg to 80mcg. I know it can also be administered via orally but I figure best way is get it to the source of the issue. Timing for me is 2 hours before bed or when I know I wont be taking a trip to the bathroom for at least 6 hours.

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Found a interesting read on a UC sufferer and a bodybuilder. I completely relate to his story. The summary of the article would be Doc's don't know how to properly diagnose UC. He almost bleeds out and needs to be hospitalized. He is put on cortisone and losses all his gains in about 2 weeks time and feels like shit.

http://www.ihaveuc.com/it-may-not-seem-like-it-but-there-will-be-better-...

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I was just curious has anyone heard that Igf lr3 and bcp 157 might help with flare ups I've read in a few places it works. I guess there is only one way to find out.

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Hey Max did you every try BPC-157 or lgf lr3? I recommend that you put 80-100mcgs of BPC into your enema and administrator it that way every other night for a few weeks and see if your situation improves. I have had fantastic luck with bpc-157 with this protocol.

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I am running straight HGH at 4iu a day in the am, and I have seen great results stacked with mesalamine and BPC-157 in the pm. I would think if you could get good IGF lr3 it would be worth a try.

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I have either crohns or uc the GI doesn't seem to know. This seems like a common problem people can't get a straight answer. I'm just starting to look for anything that can help me. I just had a flare up that lasted two months and it was horrible. I couldn't do anything because I was on the toilet every other 5 mins.

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The Gastro docs seem to be guessing a lot.A team of them had diagnosed my wife with IBS/crohns,after many trips to hospital with vomiting and diarrhea.We even had a few try to put her on mood stabilizers and tell her it may be psychosomatic.Eventually a Doctor from Columbia decided to take another look, and diagnosed her with c-dif.One month of Flagyl and she was cured.She was eighty five pounds by that time.

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The GI docs seem to be lost in the sauce I can never seem to get a straight answer.

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I am very happy to hear that your wife got over her c dif. I had the misfortune of contracting c dif while at the hospital for a flare of UC. it became a double whammy. I agree with you as you can probably already tell with my previous posts that these doc's are guessing at best based on what I have seen.

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Manshit's picture

Unfortunately that seems to be the case with pretty much all auto immune disease.It was about a three year nightmare for us though.I find a lot of doctors have trouble thinking outside of their fields.I had a case of chronic hives,for almost two years,I was being treated by an allergist,who was convinced it was idiopathic.It turned out though that I had a an infected hernia.A different doctor figured it out,put me on an antibiotic,did the repair and no more hives.

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Wow glad you got that solved man. Yeah Auto Immune diseases is just natures way of trying to thin out the herd imo. The cause could be due to the chemical additives in our foods or the chem trial spraying or the vaccines they keep injecting. In all honesty I really don't have the answers as to why but it's a epidemic without a doubt. My advice is due your own research and listen to your body.

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Hello Unrated
Yeah as you already know we have to learn from trial and error. My first GI doc was a broken record he kept insisting that diet has nothing to do with UC... However joining UC forms I learned a lot diet and carbs and decided it would be best to lower them. I have also heard that blood-type plays a role as well.

On a side note I will take your recommendation Unrated

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CBBurrr's picture

Guys with UC and Crohn's make me feel lucky to have a simple case of celiac disease. I feel mostly normal by avoiding all gluten, dairy and most grains in general.

I'f I get carried away with gluten free grains I feel like shit. Allergy season seems to exacerbate the problems.

I cant break down alcohol either :( 2 shots and I get a hangover.

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Hey CBBurrr,
I have great news on BPC-157. It has completely stopped my UC issues. I have been running 100 mcg with enema at night and have had great success. So far my stools have dropped to 1 a day and look normal ( no more yellow snot like stuff coming out. Really impressed so far. I am planning to have scope done in a few months interesting to see if the tissue inside is healing as well as I am feeling.

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This is EXACTLY what I'm like.

Does fresh salad cause you any pain???

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Not sure about celiac disease but for UC its like putting your colon on the crap table and throwing the dice.

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I feel normal sometimes when i am flare free but when I dont feel good it really sucks. On a side note my parents and grand parents did not have to deal with all the GI/Auto immune diseases that myself and cousins are dealing with. . My generation seems to be screwed with Gi/Autoimmune issues etc. I don't want to sound like Alex Jones but... We are being lied too daily on the plastics and preservatives in our foods and the effects they are having on our bodies.

I remember seeing my first GI doctor back in 2008 and laying down in pain with tears telling him that I never smoked never did drugs hardly ever drank alcohol why was this happening to me ?..And his reply still is in my mind he asked me "Do you have any friends that are healthy your age?" I said "yes I have a few" .. he replied "They won't be healthy for much longer so don't worry about it' I was like WTF

Having UC has and being in and out of hospitals has really opened my eyes to the medical establishment. I trust ugl and postings of UC patients on form boards more than Doctors with white coats. Just my 2 cents

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I read an article by Michael Francios,in which he told of how ulcerative colitis ruined his body building carrier.To the point where he had part of his colon removed.He mentioned in the article that some people have an auto immune response to certain foods and in his case it was canola oil,or so he believed.The high levels of conjugated linolenic acid and lenoleic acid is the culprit,according to the article.

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I have not had canola oil in my food for years and still I get flares. . I remember when I was diagnosed back in 2008 it seemed like it was somewhat uncommon, However lately I have seen several TV ad's for UC/Crohn's so that tells you that the number of patients is increasing.

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I agree, the medical industry is a big mess and we are being poisoned daily.
There are so many new health problems it's impossible to pinpoint the source.

so many GI issues, so many kids with autism, and the pharma industry getting filthy rich off of us.

I've got a few Dr's I trust, but still have to get meds as chap as I can. UGL, over seas etc.

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Speaking of Filthy Rich what is up with the TRT clinics...The prices they charge are criminal. 250.00 a month for 20 dollars worth of test and 1400.00 a month for 260.00 dollars worth of HGH. I am all for TRT but these prices should piss off everyone.

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Go raw vegan see how you feel

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If you shop on here you can certainly find your supplies for a lot less than 800 to 2300 a month,maybe even close to that for the year.One other thing I wanted to mention to you is the fact that some people will develop ulcerative colitis from certain oils.CLA is one that often gets overlooked.If you cook with canola/rapeseed oil,stop.This can be the culprit.It has high levels of both conjugated lenoleic acid and conjugated lenolinic acid,for some reason this combo will send some peoples immune system into attack mode.

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I just recently spent a 36hr vacation in the hospital. Woke up Sunday morning in the worst pain I had ever experienced. Dr. ran x-rays a ultrasound and the next morning they ran a CAT scan on my stomach on top of numerous numerous tubes of blood. My liver inzimes where 300 and something can't find my paper work right this or id give the exact number. My Colin was inflamed and I had acute pancreatitis and gastrictitis my spelling is off I know. I was curled like a baby in tears.. I dont drink no drugs other than aas's. Was taken some orals/ dbol and just switched over to anapolon and had been taken it for 3/4 days at 50mgs split throughout the day. Im thinking these orals may have contributed to this flare. Up. I have an appointment with a gastricendo tomorrow to run some more blood and possibly and MRI. I would love to know how hgh could possibly help with my situation as well.

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Certainly stop all orals and switch to a ultra low fat diet for now.High protein and high fat diets put stress on the pancreas.That plus alcohol are the main two causes,besides genetics.Lay off the red meat and veggies are a great idea.Drink some smoothies made with pineapple juice,blueberries,raspberries,blackberries,strawberries,and whey.This should help you maintain weight plus detox some.
note:blend and strain through mesh unless you like seeds,then put back in blender add ice and whey and blend .

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I do not recommend seeds for people with UC. Interesting concept on the Fat/Protein. I have found that high protein and fats to be helpful while reducing carbs for me. Veggies are fine as long as they are cooked/steamed for me.

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I agree which is why I added the note.The fat/protein comment was mainly about the pancreas.Pancreatitis is usually caused by alcohol or gal stones.High fat diets are murder on gal stones and the gal bladder in general.

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I think I would avoid orals.when it comes down to it, even a plain test cycle gives results. Good luck bro.

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Yea ive put all the orals down and just cruising on a low dose of test for now.

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Shaun My bro I have been there before I know how u are feeling. Keep a positive attitude they may be loading you with cortisol steroids. It is a long shot but see if u can grab a prescription for HGH or Anavar to help since cortisol will eat your muscle gains . I am looking to try bpc-157 peptide. I also recommend 3iu a day of HGH somce nice sources around if u cant get a prescription This will help with sleep. Sleep is so key right now your inflamed Colin can not heal if u are not getting 9+ sleep a day. Also load up L-glutamine and drink it for breakfast lunch and dinner. Also Do intermediate fasting to give your colon a break.

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Have never heard of bpc-157 ill have to look it up and research it. Doubt the Dr's around here would hook me up with hgh and even if they did I eave no insurance id have to go through a source around. Sleep is something I only day dream of. Like you I may only get 4 to 5hrs a night if lucky usually have to have a sleep aid to get good sleep the kind my body needs but that a double edge sword because it interns kills my stomach. As soon as I can get off this pudding and yogurt diet im going to kill some greens. Its going to damn hard to stay away from fryed foods and a few others. I got to get this under control. Mine has only been short term so I truly feel for all you guys who have had to live with this for years I really do. Just going to stay the hell away from oral aas's for a long long time and other meds and try to live and eat healthier. I really got to do some serious research on all of this to be able to do my part to get better. Hope you find some relief as well my friend.

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What ever questions you have Shaun let me know. As far as AAS orals are probably not a good choice except for Anavar which is not really liver toxic (Although Some people have issues with it) inject-table is the way to go but please do your own research on that. I was prescribed sleeping aid drugs but after I looked up the number of deaths due to overdosing these drugs and all the liver issues with toxicity even compared to ASS I was like no thanks :-) Mk677 Might also be a good choice but I found that it takes months for it to build up and work. You can get some quality HGH that works better for a comparable price at 1-2 dollars a iu if you look around cough cough Godt240 cough cough .. BPC-157 I have not taken it. it was manufactured for people with GI issues. I believe you simply drink it and it starts to heal your stomach. IDK but I am looking for sources on it now. A little reading https://examine.com/supplements/BPC-157/

My thought on Dr's can be summed up to this. They don't know shitttttt. As a society we trust them because of the white lab-coat but if you have witnessed the crap that I have you would lose all trust. I rather self medicate and get the stuff that actually heals me makes me feel great and look great :-) I had a dcotor

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Your right about the Dr's not knowing shit I really just feel like their fishing some times for answers just hoping for a bite. The second Dr on call that night came in while he was making his rounds looked at the i guess my chart online seen my liver enzymes high looked over at me and saw all my tats and the first thing out of that bastards mouth was do you have hepC did you get those tats in a clean place or in prison holly Fuck I almost came unglued if I wouldn't have been in so much pain I would have came of that bed and shoved his little scope thing up his ass. My only answer to him was "really". No I dont have hepC no ive never been to prison and yes I got all my tats in a clean studio. They are so quick to judge and right people off without even putting in the time to check out the real situation. Fucking prick the Dr I mean.im going to research them peptides and a affordable hgh source because this is no way to live. The pain and discomfort not being able to eat what and how I want makes for a rough time. Ive almost quit smoking ive gone from a pack a day to 4 cigarettes a day. My mom always told me that one day all that hard living you done when you are young will catch up with you as an adult Man was she right.

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I would have been mad too Shaun but lets face it these GI doctors are like plumbers with hammers and all us patients look like nails ready to be slammed. The more research you do the more you realize this fact.
Yes this is no way to live my friend Thank-god for sites like this that give us a options in life.

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I'll tell ya what works for me...and believe me, I've been on the serious end of things...I could tell you horror stories of diverticulitis on top of uc that just about killed me.
Get Canasa...it's expensive...and a suppository (so you have to yell no homo every time you take one)
Fast for two days..Only liquid diet..take Canasa. After you take a shit, take another Canasa. They say one a day is enough...I don't believe that it is. You have to take a Canasa after every shit . The fasting will reduce the number of shits you take even during a really bad flare up...but you have to keep that Canasa in your system..so take it every day after every shit for at least a week. This should settle things down to where you only need one Canasa per day. Try to get your shit on in the mornings and take the Canasa after the shit.
This procedure usually gets me back into remission after every flare up. If you can't afford the Canasa, you can purchase mesalamine enemas that work, they are just a little more uncomfortable. You still have to say "no homo" after the enema.
Hope that helps.

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Does canasa do anything for diverticulitis? Just had 8" of my colon removed because of that shit.

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No. Not that I'm aware of. Sorry bro. In fact I think They told me to avoid the Canasa with diverticulitis.