Nice post mate an often overlooked factor which goes hand in hand when using AAS and also when training o'naturale also...its common sence to eat helthy and to be eating the sufficient amounts of the rite foods especially protein, complexed carbs of sufficient amounts, veg, salad, fruit then all your vitamins and supplements and so on obviously in portions and proportions to fit your personal cycle needs, body weight, aesthetical aims, goals and training reigeime it is obviously key to sucess 50/50 and eat regular force metabolic rate up!
I know a guy that was dedicated in his training, rigourous and intense often turning heads because of his drive to smash the gym he had been for a couple of year bodybuilding naturally just quality protein and such and gaining mass nicely and form gradually.... go forth some time and then he's running an amount of test (money money money) which gave him a massive chemical advantage over his natural test output/ ability to build muscle mass dramatically if done proerly!
However his diet was compromised for money was an issue at this particular time for him and basically he obviously gained while he was on his 12 wk cycle and he was dosing with quality gear aswel in the end he looked cut nicely lost all bodyfat and gained a notable amount of muscle mass looking good... however he gained i reckon half of what he could have potentially gained, he kicked himself after that course because he recognised where he had faultered and learned the hard way, he is well into his nutrition and fueling the beast properly now and so will always get the most out of whatever compounds he uses in future cycles.
read read read then eat eat eat lol

Good post..points..I was goin to post something similar but i wanted to back it up with ebc progress..but you beat me to it.

Now time to eat again..ha,ha

I gained a whole new perspective after using AAS when it comes to people who look at someone and say, "Teh, that guy is definitely juicing." I know it too, I simply could not gain a single pound until I figured out how to eat. Someone told me at the beginning of my cycle on this board, EAT LIKE A HORSE! I wish I would have all the way through. Good post bro.

Yeah, J I actually went and made a Big Whey shake in the middle of that post! Every 2-3Hrs eat eat eat!My schedule has just been so busy plus quality of food available has been shit so I have been missing 1 to 2 meals a day and telling my stomach to shut up. Starting this Monday my Diet/protien/calories or gonna change everything else is going low priority Cycle/training /diet no1.Seems Im just wasting the Gear with out the Proper Diet like JH said.

Wow bro perfect post! I could not agree with ya more on this one! When I did my 1st run w aas I thought I would juice and lift and get big! No not at all! The fucked up thing is 90% of the noobs I talk at the gym have this stuck into there heads! Since joing eroids I have learned ALOT actually me and the wifey both have learned a lot! The diet is a lot harder then the training I keep it pretty strict but I do cheat here and there!:( lol Jhendo since I saw the transformation u did in the 1st EBC U def are doing it rite! Hope the ankle doesn't keep u from training but, saw your pic u just put and and still looking ripped! So what's up bro can ya share that diet with me!? Lol

Since Jan of this year I've been on a mission to lose weight and become as lean as I can in hope of lengthening my life but seeing if I could change my physique from the dirty bulk look to a completely different shredded look. You almost have to know my story tomreally understand how I got to be happy with that look. I ruptured a couple of discs in my neck and got them replaced and fused. After the surgery I could even physically protect myself let alone lift weight. Bro I could even hold my arms up laterally for more than 5 seconds at a time. Shit was brutal. So finally after a year of TRT I was back in the gym and lifting hard. All I wanted was to be strong again. When ur strength is taken from u you'll do almost anything to get it back. Lots of test lots of adrol and dbol. Lots of deca and tren. I got huge and strong as fuck. But one thing is being strong and another is being shredded. So I started adhering to a strict caloric intake. No more than 2600 calories a day. No more than 160g of carbs a day. Eat at least 300g and little to zero fat. Just healthy fats like avocado or cottage cheese or yogurt. No carbs at all after 4 pm at first and lately I've tried cutting it off after 2pm. No more red meat. Fish and chicken only. A little bit o turkey. Kale spinach asparagus broccoli green beans. That's my choices of food and man have I really taken off. On Tuesday I was down 40lbs total from January and without food and figuring out how to eat and when to eat None of this would be possible for me.
Not a single steroid made this happen for me. Food did. Food will get u to ur goals regardless of what they are. Whether u want to get big or trim down. It's the only true way to make the changes lasting and permanent. I hope this relates to ur post Jhendo cuz I couldn't agree with you more.

food is the most important part of training you need food more than aas!

AMEN!

Bingo!! Diet change at 20yo and put on 18lbs while droppin bf all natty.....scored me three big sponsors.

Man, couldn't agree more! You can do battle every day in the gym, but the war is won in the kitchen!

Great post!! Learning this now...the hard way haha

great post brother. x2

Good post jhendo have great Gear this run but weight has not go up as fast as last cycle?! Did some thinking and Diet is the only thing that has been off. Gonna make some changes on that im sure progress is gonna be alot better.