posted Sun, 05/13/2012 - 08:31
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Switched to 25g this morning
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I have been a 23g guy for, well, forever. Creature of habit one might say. But on my last order I threw in an order of 25g needles for the hell of it. So this morning I drew 1cc with my ol' faithful, replaced the needle with a 25g and low and behold... FK'N BUTTER!
I was the same way with my ol' Shovelhead. The Brothers were nudging me towards an Evo for years (10 to be exact) but I was quite happy with my tried and true. Of course the day came when I finally gave in and I have never looked back : )
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ok, even with a 25g 2cc in the quad is a bit uncomfortable ((LOL))
...hoping the npp dilutes the prop (enough)
FrankieI remember back when i first started useing it was a 21g 1.5in right in the glute ...fuck that shit
i use a 1/2 in 27g now with warm oil and a small 1.5ml high psi slin pin ,works a treat :-)
Bah, you know you still love the ol Shovel!!
Anonbeen using 25g for years and mainly into quads.. Doc advised me to drop to 23g as it minimalised the risk of scaring and hard tissue build up... Not sure if there is any truth in it but gave it go... all good except takes a while to get 1.5ml of Tren A in!! ;o)
Anonoops.. meant 21g x 1.5.. moved to 23g x 1..
23 is bigger than 25, you'd think that 23's would give you more scarring and hard tissue buildup. Interesting...
Yeah, I think maybe he had a case of dyslexia there. Since he also said it took longer to inject as well
One poster on here has been doing great with insulin pins for prop shots. I'm gonna try that too! My last batch of Winny i was stuck using 23....quads were not happy at all. Lol
Yeah I forgot to mention I am gonna run some prop next time too. I guess maybe a 27g would work? Insulin pins are what?...idk off hand.
Yeah...I been lookin at this one place, cheap and plentiful in sizes!!
Yeah, that seems to be consensus...1.5". Thanks man!!
I use 25g 1.5", and I only stick it in about an inch. I'm pretty lean in the legs, but it works for me.
25's x 1.5" good for the glutes?
I have ghetto booty so must use 1.5" for glutes....but so far still use 23 for glutes. Makes ass sore if hormone is outside glutes....irritates. But quads with short 25 is rad. It takes longer but dont have needle pain.
HAHAHA...LOL, ghetto booty!! Okay, so I guess I can experiment with gauge just as long as the pins are 1.5", that's what my research has told me.
My butt is always last to drop fat :(. I saw on sources...the pins seller offered just the needles as well. Some guys use a 23 to withdraw oil....twist on a 25 for injection. I'd rather be patient and use only one. Contamination it too easy IMO.
You have a higher risk of contamination using the needle you draw with to pin rather than changing them, never mind the dulling of the point from drawing.
I draw with a 19 lol, pin with 23.
Lots of ways to pin. I just follow our hospitals procedures. As long as its sterile...it works.
Yeah man, just throwing my input there lol, long as it's sterile!
Keepin em sharp is good. Some docs do same switch methods. I'm glad its easier to get sources with this site. Use what works for each bodypart. And everyone shares technique.
Yep!! I ALWAYS switch needles.
I jus got a order of some 25x1inch great on the delts! Quads I'm not sure on? I also have 22x1.5 that I use on my glutes!
Anonwow.. I ordered those MONTHS ago.. love'em nothing else to say ...
Hmmm...funny this is a topic cause I was just going to order some new pins and was thinking of switching from 23 to 25! WTF...great minds think alike. From what I read below 25 is the way to go....23's have been killing my quads and delts too, at least for a few days my shit is all knotted up!!
Ya bro I'm like in the 23's nice and smooth in delts! Prolly not long enough for the glutes!
Yeah, my next cycle is test and deca and I wanna poke my cheeks, I was thinking I would need 1.5" since I kinda have some glutes, always have....a lifetime of soccer and skiing will do that to ya!!!
Lol man bro I only used to feel comfortable pinning the cheeks! But, I have a lot of scar tissue bac there and need to change it up! Like the delts but gettin some pip from my test and NPP! Lol maybe gonna take it south to the quads! Wish me luck! Lol
Damn man... I pin my delts, lats and quads...I hate doing my quads, always have brutal pip. I heard before the cheeks is the way to go...wishing U well broski!! LOL...
Lol thanks bro! U think 1inch is long enough on the quads?
Absolutely...I have monster legs though. I use a 23x1 all around right now. Works fine, I just feel it the most in my quads. U shouldn't have a problem w/ 1".
Ok bro did the quad!! Worked out nice lil pip this AM but its all good! Thanks for the info!
HAHA..no biggy bro, glad it worked out.
My quads don't have much sub q fat....i use a 25 x 5/8.
Another 1/8 should be fine. I never thought to use 5/8 at all.
The good part of big legs...thick quads. I'm sure either 5/8 or 1 works great. Check under sources. One store has all sizes and options. Not expensive at all. Im getting 23 x 1.5 for glutes and 25 for quads. Another person who posts a lot loves prop and says he uses slin pins since prop is so thin. I'm gonna give that a try this upcoming cycle.
Panhead still the prettiest ever, but the Blockhead was what motivated me to buy my first NEW one----'91 Fatboy (first year---silver).
I won't buy new anymore unless resales start going back up and I don't see that happening---HD is starting to hit a saturation point. When that takes hold, those old shovels are going to skyrocket.
Exactly why I'm building my chopper my way. Atlas coyote frame....blueprinted evo sporty engine. 6in stretch up and 3 out. Oldschool style.
25g for quads and delts for me.
Takes longer to inject thicker oils but much easier on my quads.
All I got is time bruthaman...
and I like that I'm taking my time now. I know "I" can get a bit impatient or even complacent and just "jab and push" sometimes and THEN I wonder where this Fk'n knot came from ((LOL))
To keep pin sterile yet help the oil flow....i heat vial under hot tap water til warm. Obviously alcohol rubber then draw. If vial is new i alcohol rubber n insert pin....let hot water on bottom of vial only. So theres no worry of rubber blowout when full.
Myobolix-PharmaI think the 25's even help with "plunger control" which is an added bonus IMO
Anoni use23 mostly but sometimes i use a 25..... hell at a certain hardware store you can get syringes and needles but the smalles they got is 22g and i have used those too.... its quick and easy....pip isnt bad at all
Recheck the sources....the one store has all the lengths for 23 and 25. Plus vaious insulin pins. Has great ratings too.
Myobolix-Pharma25g all the way for me
dbolzLove them as well did you go for 1" or 1.5"?
1.5" for "all purpose" ; )
dbolzThose are great a bit rare in the uk :(
Look under sources. Theres pin distributers that mail to ya. The other day an Aussie found a pin seller on ebay. Less tissue damage.
You can also get about any pin size you want off Amazon. Cheap, safe, and quick...