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Strange cycle problem

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Ok before I even start "Yes" this is actually about a bro of mine "Not" myself, I know how you cornholes are about making shit up - Lol!

I have a friend that has been cycling (not bicycles either) with me for the past couple cycles. So the cycle b4 this current cycle we both was doing a sust/bold cycle(mine was disappointing btw, turns out I had other issues tho - thx to a chat with Tread I got bloodwork & got it figured out)Anyways a few weeks into our sust/eq cycles my boy started getting horrid pip (I had some but not like this). The site would turn red, swell up, get a knot & spread.
He changed out pins, started wiping down the vials and started warming it up b4 pinning (never changed gear - we both running same ugl gear). Well he fucked his shoulder up & decided to cut the cycle short. Fast forward to about 3 weeks ago, I had recently started my current cycle & he decided to run a Sust/ proviron cycle with total new gear from a diff source. Well the same shit started happening to him at injection sites but even worse this time. when he'd pin glutes he wouldnt b able to walk normal in a coupple days, or if he hit delts he couldnt use his arm half assed. he had swelling, spreading, knot formed & now he said he ran temp of 101, So he said fuck it & stopped cycling.
My ? is WTF is all that about? He's ran other compounds by themselves (besides test) and not had any issue. Can he b allergic to synthetic test? I hate to see him just quit cause of those issues. BTW, my current cycle (Test e/mast e) is going great! thats all i got ho's - I'm out.
Jab

HllwdBdBoy's picture

all thats been said is goodstuff... may also want to look into finding gear made with EO

jab's picture

Whoa! I had to google that. I read alot of mixed reviews about it, seems the advantage of it is for high doses mg per ml wise? Many ppl talked about crazy pip with it and others said painless. I think my boy needs to try something besides sust and man up - lol! Thx for the info homie - I'll pass it along.

Bennyblanco's picture

EO is painless

jab's picture

I read one post in a forum that said if you draw a EO based gear into a syringe and let it set a couple days it will actually start to break the rubber down on the plunger tip - that's kinda scary, but I have no idea if actually true. Seems like it would eat te top out of the vial if it'd do that to a plunger

jab's picture

Oops - double post

iforged05's picture

I get pip that bad. Can't sit, delta swell up, it's all about timing and rotation. It's normal and although everyone's case is different, I have never cut a cycle short because of terrible pip. Most of us are piped out limping and crying like babies to our girls... But they're used to it, and it's completely worth it!

kevdawg's picture

Sounds like he should get a doctors opinion on this matter if he wants to keep sticking himself. Just my thoughts

Thor's picture

The first thing the doctor is going to tell him is to STOP doing steroids bro. When you mention steroids to doctors is like mentioning the devil to them !!

jab's picture

True dat!

kevdawg's picture

Maybe you should get a new doctor. My doctor is open to anything and always helps me out. Also, everything is confidential between me and my doc. He's a great guy.

Thor's picture

You're lucky then. Better keep him !!

finafan's picture

1st off tell your buddy to relax and go to eroids.com .You shouldn't be looking shit up for him.What size needle is he using whats his stats. How does he warm things up. Is he only using glute? The temp thing would freak me out as well. I would be worried about infection.

jab's picture

He's using 1" pins and I think they're 23g. He's 41 about 6' 195lbs. Heats the vials w/ hair dryer . He pins delts & glutes

finafan's picture

I could see 1" being to short for glute but not delt. I heat the loaded pin with hair dryer. I just rotate it in my hand for a minute or so with dyer on low.Have you tried pinning some of his gear?

jab's picture

We both ran the same ugl gear when we ran sust/bold ( #1 source about 6 months ago) I never did pin any from his vials tho. He was still running sust this cycle but from totally different ugl ,that kinda made me exclude dirty gear - but who knows. I myself have started using test e instead of sust, in my mind my levels stay more consistent!! Thanks bro

finafan's picture

well I would never pass up the chance to pin that shit right in front of him in the same spot as him. Just to call him a pussy if it didnt hurt. lol

jab's picture

I'm thinking the short esters could be an issue, I know he did some straight prop before and he had fubar pip. I think I'll mention that to him & also what Finafan said " research your own shit' lol.
Thanks homie

muscley's picture

I had a similar problem in my first cycle and the solution I found was to get longer needles. At some moment I was using 5/8" needles to inject my thighs and I guess that allowed the oil to come out and irritate a big area. Switched to 1" and 1.25" and haven't had any PIP since.

Thor's picture

i had the same problem my last cycle. i was pinning ed which is worst and almost gave up on my cycle. then decide to witch labs and my problem was solved. also, mixing different compounds in the same syringe can cause this to happen

exceedlimits247's picture

new hormones in new muscles can cause pip.it's possible that improper pinning techniques can cause pain...but big red lumps with swelling and fevers sounds like infection. I would suggest you give your bro some help with a pin using proper and sanitary techniques...that is if he is currently not experiencing and symptoms of infection. people can be allergic to anything and it's good practice to listen to what your body is telling you.