posted Fri, 07/07/2017 - 06:07
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Seizure Letters
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How many seizure letters do you have to get before you should be concerned about some other type of action being taken against you.... Im a bit concerned can someone with some real knowledge on the subject help me out please... Thank You...
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I'm at number 8 letters over last 3 years.... 8 letters to two different address and no visit yet. That was around 25 packs the landed good.. I think it's more about the size of the order and what it contains.... I'd be worried about raws or bulk order though...
tonytwotimesthanks for your input bro
i have gotten letters and packs on the same day, if you are getting a letter you are to small to matter, if they were gonna serve a warrant you never would have received a letter. I have received 5 letters to the same address and never a Customs agent, or Postal inspector appear at my door. They track, and know all they need to know about each and everyone of usl. They aren't going to raid you unless you are importing tons of raws, or are making lots and lots of wire transfers. If you are sending, or receiving thousands of dollars every week, or are getting 1/2 a container of raws you should worry.
tonytwotimesthank you for the reply brother
I've had several,maybe five or six over the past twenty years.Ive never responded and never had a problem. I changed addresses,I used different combinations of my name, some would get through but no matter what steps I took eventually all international stuff got seized.Some guy at JFK is a big mother fucker.Anyway they sent letters but never did anything else.I learned my lesson and now only use domestic.
Note:The size of the order makes a big difference.Very large order get delivered with a house call rather than a letter.Small orders get you a letter and go in some coustoms agents gym bag.The last comment is just a guess.
tonytwotimesthanks for the input brother.... plus i dont see how it would stand up in court if you never signed for it... i could have anything sent to someone i didnt care for you know what im saying
How can times does customs have to tell you " you fucked up" before you realize that maybe, you should change something up?
Just how many of these letters have you received so far?
tonytwotimes3 over the years
Maybe your user name should be tonythreetimes then....lol.....
I think I would have stopped after one letter myself because no one can answer this question really.
You never know what can happen on any giving day at anytime...
I think unless it's a huge amount and over and over letters there not going to do much....
I can't see them wasting a lot of money coming after a little fish unless they can get big bust....
But it would only take me 1 letter and I would be done.
Government leaders and policies change, what is tolerate or over looked today, could make you public enemy number uno tomorrow.
So to answer your question, you would be best served with a dart board and darts. A little creative work and then..........
Correct I agree. Never know when the shit us going to hit the fan....
Exspecialy international sources be ordered from to over here....
I would imagine that's millions of dollars that our government isn't getting a piece of the pie correction they want all of the pie....
Ace VenturaLike "I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers, get the papers."
tonytwotimesyes sir i just got a good fellas shirt the other day
AnonOpen a PO box
tonytwotimessame shit i guess it is what it is
AnonThey siezed your pack and let the crate of cocaine through, shitty how things work out sometimes.
tonytwotimesya right god for bid i want to keep from having a Dad Bod
Feel lucky you didn't get a call... think it's time to find a domestic guy.
Just my .02
From my experience with the 2 letters I got I'm sure they're sensitive to your address. I tried a larger order a long time later with the same result, stopped. That's just my assumption cause nothing else came from it but another stop a year later. Should have another address if you're going overseas, as for me there's no way to get GH at any kind of reasonable price domestically most the time, so it's why I venture.
That's just bad luck
ONE and not more!
but it depends on your location...
All your questions can be answered by these people.
homelandsecurity.gov
Just fill out their questionnaire and then they will get back to you.
Sorry, all you are going to get is a whole lot of guesses, nonsense and 3rd party fantasy stories that will leave you more confused than before you asked the question.
You may have been partly replying to my post as you were the second one to post.
So let's look closer at my reply. I don't think it's a matter of how many. That's the wrong question.
The question is how many can you defend against in a court of law? that is the real concern.
I can get a lawyer to talk my way out of one or two letters. but when it gets to that point when someone is building a case against you, in my opinion, you're position is greatly compromised if you are found to have several letters compiled against you.
best to be looking for a PO box or two.
tonytwotimesi feel what your saying i just figured some of the guys that have been around awhile might say they ve got this many or that many over the years the shit looks like it was written by a 10 year old my zip code wasnt even write and the name was hand written
Well in that case I can give my opinion for what it's worth. I think most give the government way too much credit in terms of their ability to track seizures by name/address and their desire to do so. The only thing I think that sets off alarms are huge orders clearly for resale and raws in which case you won't get a letter but a visit. I do not think there is anything such as address flagging or a certain # of letters that trigger an alarm.
There is a names list I only know because im on it and it sucks. I had to do alot of time and crossing borders isn't fun for me or anything related to me since a really bad day I had about 5yrs ago now. The list is short I don't believe it includes seizure letters. If they pay you a visit things change drastically.
I suggest researching how international mail is sorted and comes into the country its all public information its not classified. You can learn alot from this.
This part isn't for any one person just for the post as a whole
tonytwotimesmnjthanks for your input and i agree with you all my orders are small and for personal use... you should have seen this letter it was as if 1 person addressed those letters all day long well ill keep you informed bc im sure i have at least 1 more on the way i also forgot to mention a week later i got an international pack at that same address
Gotta agree, they lack the inclination and the added expenses that would come with it.
If the media hyped things up about the vast numbers of gear users buying and using gear from international sources it might be a different situation entirely. I bet you're average man thinks we all buy off the big guy at the gym, hopefully it stays that way.
One's a mistake
Two's a pattern
Three's a crime
Three.
Now how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?
The world may never know.
How many have you had
tonytwotimesive had 3 but a couple of years apart
But you have received more than has been seized right?
AnonI am of no help because i wont order from overseas but I would say after the first letter you should be looking for a new address to send it to.
+1 After first letter you have to change the address of receiver bro.
What is the source of your information?