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Since a lot of people seem to have misread what I wrote, I am going to say it here: I HAVE seen a doctor, and they HAVE told me it has nothing to do with my heart. On top of this, I was only on the AAS for 3 months on a real cycle and a month and a half on a bridge.

Okay before I go into any details, I will be giving the backstory of exactly what I did leading up to my experience and whatnot. If you wanna skip the majority of this and get the primary story, head towards the bottom of my post.

Brief History Before PEDs:
I have been working out for about 5 years now. I initially started as a misinformed gym bro that weighed 130 pounds that would solely do lightweight curls, bench press just a plate, and had literally no idea what I was doing. This was when I was 17 years old, leading into my senior year of high school. I continued this method through that senior year, as well as into the summer before I started college. (At this point, I had gained about 15 pounds or so. Presumably, most of those gains came from my sudden jump from 5'8" to 6'1"ish.)

Once I started college, I took a weightlifting course and got really into lifting and bodybuilding in general. In about one semester, I went from weighing 147 pounds to 175 pounds. All of my lifts increased tremendously (mostly due to proper teaching) from a 1 plate bench to a 185 bench, 185 deadlift to 315 deadlift, and 150 pound squat to a 2 plate squat. Either way, was making very good progress as a natural bodybuilder. Now this was in the year of 2015.

I continued this progress for a while, eventually reaching a plateau in 2017. At this point, my deadlift was 405, bench was 295, squat was 405, etc. At this time, I was just lifting heavy and doing hardly any cardio. I was still going the natural route at this point, and feeling pretty good about myself. However, I desired to be bigger and better simply because I wanted to be a competitive bodybuilder and not just some slightly bigger than normal guy. So I began my research into anabolics.

Now, I never actually came into the true process of actually doing any of the things I was researching until the fall of 2018. And this is where I began doing the PEDs and thus starts my next part of the post.

My PED experience.
NOTE: I was 21 when I started, and I am currently 22. Turned 22 right after my cycle ended. This doesn't mean that I was on cycle for a year. I went on cycle 4 months before I turned 22, but was only on my blast cycle for 3 months.The other month and a half was a cruise of 200 per week.

So, not gonna talk about sources or anything like that, but I will say what I did. I ordered my stuff and did a 12 week cycle with no issue. Did 40mg of dbol a day for the first 4 weeks and 500mg of test-e (injected twice a week) for 12 weeks. I made extreme progress in the gym, and gained a lot of weight. Right before this cycle, I lost a lot of weight over the summer due to poor training and eating habits so I had only weighed 180 roughly, despite weighing about 195 when totally natural.

In the first month, I gained about 20 pounds. Some of this was definitely water weight from the dbol but over the next 8 weeks I slowly lost water weight and continued putting on muscle mass. All my lifts increased (Hit 350 on bench, 475 on deadlift, 450 on squat, etc.) and I was happy with the results. I could've put in more work, but that's a story for a different day. Either way, I hit the end of the cycle and began to do a bridge amount of test until my next cycle. This was about 200mg a week, and I did this for 5 weeks. Right around the 2nd week was when my chest problem came about.

Chest Pain Story Starts Here:
So here are all the factors: My chest pain began shortly after my high dosage stopped. I switched from a 250mg/ml concentration of test-e to a 400mg/ml of test-e. Now, I never felt low testosterone when I was on the alternate product. In fact, while I was on that stuff I hit my heaviest squat ever. But randomly, I felt sharp sharp chest pain. It varied in where it was, but it was always on my left side. Sometimes it was closer to the middle of my chest. (Close to the sternum, but still felt as though it was coming from the ribs.) Sometimes it would be the bottom part of my left ribs, sort of in-line with the left side of my abs, and rarely it would be the leftmost side of my ribs. (Like, outermost part of my torso.) The pain didn't start right when I switched products, but more like a week or two after.

Right before the pain started, I had actually gone back home for the holidays. I felt a little sick, but not horrible by any meaning. However, my family prefers to keep our heater running at night. I sleep better at cold temperatures, not 72 degrees Fahrenheit. Therefore, I had my fan running on high at night. I noticed that I was coughing a lot, but it didn't bother me. Then, all of the sudden, I was experiencing the chest pain. It seriously freaked me out, and I stopped working out and switched to just cardio. Now, I was doing bicycling, jogging, anything of that nature and had no issues with it. (I never had severe shortness of breath, just the typical amount that one would get from cardio.) I scheduled a meeting with my doctor, and talked to them about it.

First and foremost, I was honest with what I was doing and told the doctor pretty much everything. My doctor told me that my heart and breathing sounded just fine, and ordered me an EKG just to make sure. EKG turned out totally normal, and said that I must have damaged my chest wall in some capacity. I also had blood work done, and while my cholesterol was a little high it was still within the normal range and all my other levels were borderline perfect. I was taking a substantial amount of caffeine at this time, but I have since given up caffeine. (My resting heart rate was 72pm, but it has since dropped to 56bpm. It dropped to 60bpm before I stopped the anabolics entirely.)

Either way, I've been working out off and on and don't know how to deal with this injury. I decided on taking a serious break, and it has been about 5 and a half weeks of no working out. (Occasional walks with my girlfriend are the only thing.) I will go lift weights once a week if I am feeling good, but it seems as though my chest pain gets agitated when I do weightlifting. (Even as light as I would do it.) I only did my cruise dosage for 6 weeks at 200mg a week, and then one week at 160mg before deciding to take a break and see if it helps. It didn't change much, so now I am left wondering what to do.

Note: I do regularly take fish oil, and I regularly walk about 3+ miles a day. Not every workout would I do legitimate cardio, but I would normally run a half mile or a mile every other workout. Which I did workout for 2 hours or more a day, for 6 days a week. There was a point that I overworked my body, but I recovered fast from that and have since learned that rest days are good. I also know of the dangers of using AAS before 25, and I am glad to inform that my natural testosterone is back and I feel incredible. So, no issues there.

Do any of you have any experience with this? If so, do you have any advice you can give me?

READ ME!!!!

As many of you have misinterpreted what I said, I will do a much simpler recap here.
Yes, I have gone to a doctor. Two doctors, in fact. I have seen several nurses. All of my things relating to cardiovascular health are in order. Heart rate, blood pressure (slightly high, but always has been), rhythm, and everything else is almost perfect if not perfect.
I did not take AAS for a full year, I said that I took them when I was 21, and then I turned 22. I meant that I started taking them about 4 months before turning 22 (I spent 3 months on cycle, and a month and 2 weeks on a lower dosage.)

giardap's picture

Dunno why you're getting negged here. here's a few pluses from me, for what it is worth. ++++

Sounds like it could be a few things. Stress anxiety, absolutely can do this. Low estro can drive anxiety/stress etc. Get bloods to see.

Also, how is your belly/chest area in terms of size and growth? Did you put on a lot of growth in there? My ribcage widened over the years and at one point, too much food absolutely caused issues. Do your ribs seem wider?

Could you have damaged the ribs, by over eating, or growth? Could you have a niggling tear somewhere around the ribcage? Not a broken rib, but damage or torn connective ribcage tissue? MRi for that... usually hurts when breathing or getting into/out of bed, but there could be scar tissue healed thats causing an issue... MRi

Sam I Am's picture

His profile orginally said 21 now its 22.
That's why I negged it. I doubt hes that old.

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giardap's picture

I hear ya man
I tend not to give a fuck about that when they are coming in with a health problem
I think he got ots of karma clipped on another post or something.

But.... annnnnd.... heeeeeeeeee's GONE

lol

Didnt last long!

Sam I Am's picture

Hope it works out for the dude.
Young folks dont realize the older you get the more mystery pains you have...always best to have them checked out if it's in the chest.

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333's picture

1 stay off the roids. 2 have you ever been checked for anxiety or panic disorder ptsd I have ptsd and chronic anxiety and I get chest pains when I'm having a panic attack or when one is about to come on check into that. How long have you been off.crashed estrogen can take a long time to raise back to normal and can cause panic attacks and anxiety

333's picture

Yeah man I crashed my estrogen one time and went into bad times it took almost 3 months for it to get normal I was a fucking mess anxiety was so bad and when it crashes it makes heart flutters and pound hard I would lay on my left side and feel it pounding into the mattress It fucked me up and thanks to the great site we have here I read about it and went and got bloods done and wammo this site was right I'll tell you I will never crash my shit again. Blood tests are key everyone is different some people take 1mg arimidex 2 times a week while the next guy will take .25 2 times a week and some guys can run 500mg test with no ai it's a big game taking gear lots of stuff to learn and money to keep doing bloods to figure out what's going on with your body food vitamins

333's picture

No if you take to much it will crash estrogen

333's picture

Yes sir

333's picture

Wow well I'll tell you that kid will most likely never have kids and have to stick a needle in his ass the rest of his life if he keeps it up. The male body doesn't even fully develop till 25

Sam I Am's picture

Dbol is the best way to bring your estrogen up quick imo.

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333's picture

Yeah when I crashed mine i didn't have any on hand I literally gave mine away cause dbol didn't work well with me could be nice to have a few on hand just in case

Sam I Am's picture

Build your body as big as you can naturally and then use the gear. Your nowhere near your potential at 22.
Physiques built on nothing but gear never maintain it.
The chest pain could be anything from gas to a gallbladder.
If the Dr couldn't find it nobody on here will eithet.
Theres some great training and nutrition threads on here use your search bar.
I started useing gear much earlier than you.
Trust me it was a mistake. I've been on trt many years as a result...
Having my gallbladder removed next month. That's from not useing ais.
I also have kidney tests pretty regular.
If you use to early and to long there will be consequences...
Blasting and cruising at your age is not wise.

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johnmarshall12's picture

Besides the fact that you were too young for GEAr; you are looking for someone else to solve your problem. Unfortunately from these descriptions you give it is impossible to anyone to put their finger on what you issue is.

You need to keep experimenting until YOU SOLVE IT! It may take a while and a lot of effort but it can be done.

Sam I Am's picture

22 and your using gear and having chest pains...-2
Btw I know guys that bench 405 that have never taken anything. Dont justify your use by those lifts.

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IrishMack's picture

"NOTE: I was 21 when I started, and I am currently 22. Turned 22 right after my cycle ended."

"I only did my cruise dosage for 6 weeks at 200mg a week, and then one week at 160mg before deciding to take a break and see if it helps."

Cruising at 22 after supposed first cycle at 21. You have been on a cycle since you were 21. Cycles do not last a whole year. Now to compound it you are having chest pains? WTF is wrong with you? Are you stupid?

Go see a FUCKING Doctor and stop taking AAS.

Fred G.Sanfords's picture

Why would you come to a forum that’s a Steroid review site for advice that you clearly should see a doctor about??? Go see a doctor!! At 22 years old chest pains are not the norm. Get off the internet and see a doctor they’re the only ones who can tell you what’s up.. Don’t wait until it’s to late.