posted Thu, 09/20/2012 - 18:23
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Pushing past the genetic limit.
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First I am a newb to eroids.com, gear, and sources. Although, in this aspect am very green I have been a head to toe gym rat for 6 years now. Big on work ethic, dieting and supplementation. Had very good gains before the supplement bands in 2009 and now that the pro-hormone market has been diluted, it feels like no matter how hard I work or what I intake the gains are minimal at best. Then, I read an article on "The Genetic Limit". Within a week I had ordered my first cycle, Test e 250 and Tren a 100. Thank you eriods and members for the adivce, quidance, and renewed motivation.
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So I need to know where I can find an AI without the min. order
look at companies that carry research chemicals I cant promote anyone here but if u google research chems I kno u will find what u need. Most sources here have a min order. I have had to do the same thing to get nolva, but I kno If you do as I say It'll cost you about $50-$60 and the co. I went thru is the ONE
Brother at first your article started great until I read tren on first cycle. Who the F wrote that? Tren on first cycle they should be tied to a horse by their ankles and dragged through the streets for that one. You sounded at first you were doing so well on your own then you got greedy.The only reason I started AAS was I hit a wall for a year+ that no matter what I do I couldn't get over 165lbs. I tried everything and AAS was the last answer. I jumped past my natural limit but I wouldn't say genetic limit. Steroids expand what you have already. The only way to "genetically" go past your limit is HGH. That actually builds more musclle and the steroids expands them even more. So stop listening to some article talk to a vet on here and get the facts from someone that has been there and done that.I have upvoted him because us vets started out like him with bad advice. Now lets get him on the right track. CJ FR request sent.
By my ankles? Seems a little harsh. Dude I'm open to advice that's why I'm here. Tren been taken care and the my first cycle is going to be just the Test 250. I was able to exchange the Tren for the correct pct and AI. Call off the horses.
Not your ankles, theirs. Anyone who recommends tren on a first cycle is out of their mind. Sorry if I miss spoke or you read it wrong. There is great advice here and some very dangerous advice also. Being new, you need to learn who knows what and who is looking out for best interests. I just wanted to make sure you are going down the right path.
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Just use the Test E 500mgs/wk for 12 weeks...save the tren for another cycle in the future. I've ran 3 cycles and various different injectables/orals and still won't use tren. I'm not ready for it, I definitely don't think it should be used in your first, second, or third cycle. Split the injections 250mgs mon/thurs. Have an AI, like anastrozole, exemestane, or letrozole on hand for estro related problems, and MAKE SURE you have your PCT before you start your cycle. Who knows what could happen...you don't want to be on cycle, have your pct get nabbed and have no PCT. For PCT I'd recommend Nolva/Clomid for 4-6 weeks. Just my .02
So baby steps right? The gear is coming. So what do you guy suggest for dosing? I don't have any issues sitting on the Tren until I'm ready.
I did get my Clomid with this order for post. I had planned on running the test for 12 weeks 250mg Monday and Thursday. I didn't plan on pin the Tren until week 8 50mg ever other day and running that for 4 weeks. But you guys are saying hold off on the Tren all together?
Here read through this http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/better-basics-for-the-n... should have most of the info you need to know. Then come back to this thread and post a proper cycle with a proper pct. Include what AI and all doses.
Big thanks, bro! Beginner 101 in one stop. Spent the majority of my day reading and working with my source to exchange the Tren for nolvadex and an AI. Even if ment eating a couple bucks to get it right.
cool. When you have your cycle planned post it and lets make sure it is good.
That's going to keep me busy today.
Before you stick a pin in go to school here. If you read for a week you will know. Read anything by Cdaddy, Zewi, tread m , Viking , GS , goth and you will know exactly what to do and how to do it!
Have you ever walked down the road and found a $20 bill laying on the ground? Well you just got even luckier than that. You was about to make a huge mistake and you found all the help you need to turn a huge mistake in to a perfect cycle. Now all you have to do is listen to what these guys have to say and you will be golden.
What's this? $20... Hell yeah!
I don't believe you have done enough research. I love your enthusiasm. I believe in running test only for first cycles. You need to learn how your body reacts to test. You need to learn how your body reacts to different compounds one at a time. Adding a vastly powerful androgenic compound like tren to your cycle should be something you do once you have mastered your training, diet, rest, and understand how YOU personally respond. Do you know how to properly dose test and tren together? Do you know why you should dose one highe than the other? Do you understand what the side effects of tren are? Do you have an ai ready? Do you know what proper pct is? There are a thousand questions that you need to know the answers to..Please, do some more reading, at least read the sticky notes in all the various threads.
good post. way better than mine
you just let your inside voice speak out loud.
tread-mNo ,he lets his inside voices voice speak outloud. Lol
I was talkin to 1 of me and he said ok and then another me said no, and another me said do it, and another me said don't do it, and another me said ur crazy I know I'm right.....
Damm there is alot of you
That's exactly what the ladies tell me.
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tread-mThrow down these stats with age included brother and lets talk before you head out the door and pin. Much to help with here and we have a group of the finest to do just that.....eager to help and guide.
cdaddy7My advice is put the Tren up before u push past your health limitations...test only cycle
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-time-cycle-...
tread-mLmaoo...just took his point and flipped it right into yours! Love it.
bro post your stats and we can help u with a cycle tren is a harsh compound and a no go on your first cycle
Dude tren on 1st cycle? May as well get u some mast too, start it w/ dbol, throw in winny, and wtf add some equipoise? lol Seriously 1st cycle test only please!!!! What about pct and arimidex or aromasin... btw pct is clomid AND nolva wtf bro? ur gonna get flamed bad!
Testosterone ONLY first cycle.