posted Sun, 05/05/2013 - 07:26
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probation mouth swap drug test
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A buddy of mine is on Probation and he is about to run some gear. He is worried though that they when they give him his mouth swap that the gear will show up. I told him i highly doubt it. But i was wondering if anyone of you have delt with this.
All help will be appreciated!
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Bro I had some ppl run their mouths to my p.o stating I was running gear by assumption and they spent 700 Bucks on a lab urine test for me. Nothing in probation can test for steroids it's a special test they must send out and only due so if they suspect it greatly. Luckily I dropped my tren from my cycle 5 weeks prior to this test and the only thing that showed up was elevated testosterone which I said was otc test boosters and the lab said that can be true so I was cool.
I've heard such conflicting stories about mouth swap drug tests Some say detection is about the same as urine, others say that they tested neg after 24 hours.
Probation tests with a 10 panel drug mouth swab test and out of those 10 not one of those panels are for AAS. Work job test with only a 5 panel mouth swab drug test, again none of them for AAS. A five and ten panel mouth swab only test for illegal street drugs unless they suspect that your on something certain then they can test for that specifically through blood or urine. They do not have to test for the kind of gear your friend is on, they just have to test for AAS in general. Hope this helps. In my line of work they also mouth swab drug test certain people.
It's been said already but I'll just reinforce what they said. Unless you are getting a drug test done for AAS, they will only run a few drug panels on a mouth swab test. AAS tests are hella expensive and even a 10 panel test would not be looking for AAS.
Buildbigger86I actually got really into this last night and spoke with someone who i can not name but they gave me the full deal. They wont test for AAS'S but the test as expensive as all of were under the impression it is. It cost's 150 bucks and you can test for any AAS. I shit you not this is from someone who really know's the deal with and came to me in private and explained how it all works to me.
Guess I need to find some better info on the subject. Last I read is an AAS test averages at around 300$, but even at 150 I'm sure a uptight company wouldn't want to run an AAS panel unless they had to.
so much misinformation down below about drugs tests!
Lsd is the hardest have to draw blood within 8hrs of use and then look immediately or it will degrade
ketamine shows up as K if tested
Why would it not
PcP is also PcP
And shrooms are a fungus but not foodpoison (which is bacteria not fungus) funny way to think about it, that fungus itself created the pharmacological actives that's why you get high, they hurt your stomach because they grow in cow Shit! Haha
two years ago yes some drugs like jwh or something couldn't be tested for,NOW can test you for anything to exactly how much you took and when, best believe that
Best believe that! Lol. I remember reading that LSD is stored in spinal fluid hence the reason people get flashbacks years down the road and testing spinal fluid for LSD is possible. But that could have been hear say bs. Spinal taps are not cheap nor is the testing of spinal fluid so I highly doubt they would ever do that.
Buildbigger86I USED TO EAT L ALL DAY. LOVED IT. But it does not get stored in your spine lol. My boy who i used to eat gel's with all the time went to the doctor and was like if you get a spinal will all the lsd i took be stored there. The doctor started laughing and was like NO WAY. Acid does not stay in your spinal fluid lol
Lol I used to eat blotter all the time when I was a hippie lol. So I heard through a stoned friend and researched it but never found a solid answer so that's why I was thinking it was bs lol. But good Lucy is very fun lol. Especially camping.
Buildbigger86Yeah, i based my info on my old days because 3 years ago i would take test's with all of that in my system and nothing ever came up. But i should i looked to see if they have updated the testing. I hate arguing a point and then being wrong because i am outdated.
Saliva isn't a testing medium for AAS for the state department
they could if they wanted to but they don't from my
knowledge which is based on working first responder yrs ago and being tested for work there, I wasn't on any AAS or anything anyways but they didn't test for Juice at all
No worries bro He will be good
They have to know what steroid to test for specifically. I don't think they would test that anyways.
really? what makes you think that?
i've been on probation while juicing. random dt's. Not a problem. PO actually st8 up told me we dont test for ped's
if signs of steroid use are just like right up in their face, does a county probation office even have the capability to test someone for it? i know somebody on probation for steroid use in a small county. thats why i ask.
Probation/parole officers/companies can only afford 5 panel tests otherwise it is not cost effective. Thc,methamphetamine,cocaine,opiates,MDMA. Other than that they will have to specifically test for aas.
x2! 5 panels are all ive ever seen when it comes to both probation and parole, both of which ive been on minus federal. another thing to the op though, to my knowledge there is no probation anywhere that drug tests with mouth swabs yo. never heard of them doing that, always piss tests.
I never heard of it either bro, it's always been piss test but I wouldn't be surprised if they do now. Lots of changes been happening in the last decade,lol
I was on a probation transfer in another county got random mouth swabs at least once a month. And at one point in my bad years haha my po was sure I was using somehow and flying by so I had to go to hospital and do blood test shit sucked!
Ya mouth swabs are rare.
They used to be rare but, now they do them all over , especially when your going for a job cause it's cheaper and faster then piss or blood test
Couple years ago, federal probation started doing more than a 5pt test. They do them in house. If it flags, they send it off. I know this from my own experience.
That's crazy! They are way more expensive lol. But the fed don't mess around lol. Not many homies got put on fed so not much experience with that.
yeah, they sho don't... mofos gave me 7+ years prison plus 5 years "supervised release" for a first offense possession with intent charge. 1 year of pretrial probation before sentencing. back then they sent your shit to a lab for a 5 panel test. now they have a home test style cup that does 12 drugs.
Damn boss! That's crazy. They hit you real hard! My boy got distribution with firearms large some of cash and he got 10yrs with 8 1/2 suspended and not sure what his supervised is. But my state is strict bout shit but leanient at the same time.
holy shit!! Our justice system is fucked. My buddy said his friend got out of jail in 4 years for murder.
Back then, the Feds sentencing guidelines were fucked up and basically tied the judges hands. The guidelines for me were 87-132 months. He couldn't go above or slow that unless I'd testify. I got 87. Things have changed now from what I've heard, and for the better.
Buildbigger86I know homie. Espicially that stupid fuckin KINGPIN bill they passed back in the day. Such fuckin bullshit
Damn! That's a looong time to be doing for intent. Sorry you had to go through that man.
It's all good brotha. It's how we handle the situations in our lives that make us who we are.
True that! +1 for being strong g!
Buildbigger86I know that is exactly what i told my friend. Thanks for input cheat!
No prob bb!
i just got tested, they dont check for AAS.
steroid testing fortuantley is expensive
Unless he has a steroid related charge, they're only checking for illicit drugs like pot, coke, meth, LSD, pcp, opiates, benzos, and barbiturates. Not AAS.
Buildbigger86Also just a fact not busting balls but you can NOT drug test for LSD, SHROOMS, K, DMT OR ANY OTHER HALLUCINOGEN.
3PUMPCHUMPIncorrect. It is entirely possible to test for both, however, the process involved is different, quite expensive, inconsistent, and rarely helpful for a variety of reasons, and consequently not widely used, the US military did, at one point, test servicemen for LSD but ceased doing so due to high cost and low number of cases caught.
Read more: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=194431#ixzz2SReowloQ
This is only partially true. LSD is typically metabolized by the time it kicks in and the metabolites off of say a 500 iu hit (very potent dose) are next to impossible to screen for due to the trace amounts and time frame. The rest is readily able to be tested for, but typically aren't. However last time I was on probation one of the panels was for tryptamines, which would cover psilocybin.
Buildbigger86My man, Shrooms are just getting food poising, DMT is the strongest psych but is made from tree bark and does not stay in your system. Ketamine can also not be tested for as well AND LSD CANNOT BE TRACED. Believe me i used to do all of these things all the time and had to take drug test's and never failed. Literally have taken drug test's after doing k night before as well as still high from all the L i took, and i mean superb GDF L as well as taking dmt BONG TOKES BEFORE TEST HOMIE.
I respectfully disagree bro. Lets say at another point in my life I was like the phenix of fungus if you catch my drift (and yes I can back that up). I spent as much time on hallucinogen boards as nitti spends here. My life was dedicated to the study and production of this class of drugs. Anything and everything you put in your body can be tested for. Whether its practical or cost effective to do so is another story.
3PUMPCHUMPDude you are giving bad information. Ketamine shows up as pcp. They are both dissociatives. And LSD can be traced just because you did not get caught does mean that noone will/has.
Incorrect brother. I was on federal probes til for 4 years, and trust me they CAN test for LSD and shrooms.
The affect you get from shrooms is not food poisoning, either. Food poisoning is the result of bacterial growth above the tolerable level. Being a nutritionist, i am very familiar with food poisoning. Symptoms of food poisoning don't even resemble the effects of shrooms. What causes the hallucinations is mescaline. It is mescaline that is detected in the urine, bro.
Times have changed over the years, and with that so has technology. You'd be surprised what they can test for these days.
AnonEven if they can test for LSD isn't it out of the system in a few days?
I have to find my source for citation, but its more like hours not days.
i really don't know. back in my lsd days, there where no tests, so idk...
Buildbigger86Damn, really. i stopped taking test's 3 years ago. So i apologize for not being current guys.
Doss, i am send you a PM, dif more interested in how they can detect L now.
Bro, I have no idea how they can detect it other tha. Including it in the panel. I used to get copies of my results, so I knew what was being tested. Used to, it was just a 5 panel test. Now, they do more with an OTC style instant read test. If it flags, they send it off for testing.
That's all I can tell you