posted Tue, 08/06/2013 - 13:59
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Please help... Extreme pain
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Just started my first cycle on Monday morning, test C 600mg per week with a front load. On Monday morning I pinned 300mgs per quad and about 10 hrs later the pain took hold. For the past 2 days and ongoing its been unbearable to walk, sit, sleep or anything that requires the bending of the knee.
Worst part is I cant even limp as both legs hurt like a bitch and walking down stairs may be the most pain I've ever felt. I've been chanting to myself "man the fk up" with every step lol.
When will this torment end??
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This is temporary pain you are facing now. For a week or two the pain will stay but gradually ward off. But in case you are facing the same issue for the next couple of weeks, aleven pain relief tablets will work the best for you. They are really good and works really fast if you have knee, back or shoulder pain. If the pain still continues then it is something to worry for and needs to be checked with the doctor immediately.
Just walked about a mile in a shopping center... it hurt... it hurt so bad. Now I'm back home and my left leg is swollen up at the knee and warmer than the right. I think it has slightly turned pink as well at the knee quite far from the actual injection site though.
Does this sound like infection? Am I fkd?
No it's just irritation of the subQ tissue. That stuff doesn't like large amounts of crystals in it. You missed the muscle dude. I've done it many times. It'll be swollen, red, hard and extremely painful for about 5 more days.
RustyhookerEveryone below posted great info! Here's a collection of reads to check.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/so....you-got-pip
Try a different lab/source if it doesn't get better in the next week or so. Also, pin your glutes instead of your quads. Pip is usually way less painful in the glutes vs the quads and at least you'll be able to fuckin walk
I've heard that if your muscles haven't adjusted to absorbing the oil, then sometimes it can be pushed out and spread elsewhere. I'd expect there to be a little bit of swelling, but as long as it's not red and warm and squishy you should be fine.
When I was starting my first cycle I was experiencing the same problems as you. Everybody was telling me it's just because I had virgin muscles. But after about 4 weeks of what you're experiencing (pinning was BARELY getting any better after 4 weeks) I tried using some different test. I went from test e to test c (from a different lab) and experienced ZERO pip. I've since tried the test e again and I still get that same horrible pip that can last for a week at a time.
My advice to you would be to always sleep with a heating pad on whatever muscle you've most recently pinned. Pick up some sterile filtered grapeseed oil so you can dilute the test. You may want to pick up some test e from a different source also just in case.
site rotation dude. The first I went with was quads too. It does seem to be the easiest at first. Go for the glutes, ventroglutes, delts.
BUT if you keep getting unbearable pip then use different gear. I thought it was just part of the game for a while until I found a lab that works for me. Nearly zero pip. I mean I can tell I pinned the day before, but definitely no peg leg or limping or difficulty lifting. I used 4 different labs that gave me nasty pip. Found one that doesn't and I"m not looking back.
When will it end? Either in a few days or until you fix whatever made the pip in the first place.
Hey buddy check out my pics and you"ll see one where I pinned my quad. Try that spot. I went through the same thing. Probably pinned around nerves. Virgin pain wouldn't be that bad. Let me know if you try it and if it helps. Good luck
Just sounds like virgin muscles to me. I remember my very first pin which was in the quad. Sounds just like what you are going through. Couldn't bend my knee at all. People constantly asking me what was wrong with my leg because I was walking so funny. After each pin the pip was less and less until about the 3rd week of my cycle when all of a sudden it was like "where is the pip", and it was smooth sailing from then on.
Thats reassuring man, how long before you regained the ability to walk? The DOMS excuse I have is getting old real quick too.
Pip seemed to be the worst around 3 days and slowly got better after that. It was usually gone by the time I was due for another pin in that site (7 days later) and the whole pip process started all over again. After a couple of weeks though the pip should be very little. See what other compounds are in your test. You may be allergic to something in it. Some people seem to be very sensitive to EO. If it is just virgin muscle though, the pip should become less and less as your cycle goes on.
Around 5 days after injection.
Stick with the glutes bud. The oil followed the facsia of your quad and gravity caused the movement downward. Alternate cheeks for 1st time success.
I'd hate to try another virgin site bra, you think if I pin quads a second time will it be this bad?
It should get better the more you pin it. You do have to learn proper site rotation, so eventually I would recommend that you try out other pinning sites to get used to doing them. This will also help alleviate scar tissue buildup.
Glutes are usually the safest for pip
X2 But make sure you don't sit down for a little bit afterwards as the oil can get pushed out of its pocket and travel up by the tailbone. It'll give you the same pain your having now in your lower back. Good luck brother.
hmm I'm with rusty I don't think front loading is such a great idea for someone with virgin muscles.. I remember my first time I was peg legged for a week.. if it's leaked down to your knee you may have pinned wrong.. Before you pin make sure to flex you quad and find the part of the quad your pinning.. keep your hand on the area as a marker then relax it then go ahead and pin.
If it's not red and there's no fever you should be fine.. keep and eye on it just in case.. soak in a hot bath and use some heating pad while your laying in bed
RustyhookerWhoever told you to frontload....slap em.
Pin size? Mg strength? How do you pin?
Hot pads...hot soaks....ibuprofen
lol I read about it in that thread about maximizing cycles.
pinned with a fresh 25g 1"; test C at 250mg per ml so 1.2 ml per leg
The pain is with about 150mg ibuprofen twice a day, without it is suicide. I try to have hot showers as often as I can but getting to the bathroom is itself a world of pain.
Is this what people mean by no pain no gain?
Your case sounds a little extreme.. I've never had pip that bad unless I was allergic to something in the mix
he said 25gx1
pinning a virgin quad will do that to you man. theres no redness or swelling is there?
There isn't any redness but there is swelling near the knees as if the oil moved downwards.
hmmm...what size pin did you use?
20g 1.5" to draw and 25g 1" to inject. I've also heated the oil
the fact that theres swelling near your knee sounds like you missed the muscle with the injection and it traveled down towards the knee
I think hit the muscle as I flexed and saw where the muscle was, also my quad hurts from top to bottom. The swelling near the knee is only on the left side but both legs hurt equally. If I missed the muscle somehow, am I doomed to endless pain? :(
next time you hit quads the best way to do it is put your hand on your hip and your other hand on your knee. the area not covered is where you want to pin
so the far outer or inner quad?