posted Fri, 08/02/2013 - 03:26
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Pain after I train...
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I know a lot of you will say, pain is a natural part of building muscle, etc, but, I do suffer a lot from post training pain. My joints, shoulders in particular, my forearms, they absolutely kill me and prevent me from sleeping unless I elevate them, or use a compression bandage for the night.
The next day is better, a lot better, where I feel the "good" pain from a good workout the day before. The trouble is the immediate hours after training. This happens when I do; chest, shoulders, back, basically anything except legs :-)
Could anyone suggest anything to take? Pain remedies whatever please?
Cheers :-)
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TronHere is the deal bro. I was doing the same thing as you going hard and heavy and i found myself getting in this mindset that I needed to lift more and more heavy. I felt as though I needed to beat my own personal lifts. My body began hurting really bad. I took a week off and went back straight to the heavy lifting and got the same results. I decided for my healths sake to go light for a while and I trained with higher reps for about 6 weeks, took about 4 days off and then went back to the heavy again. I was stronger than before primarily because my body didn't hurt so bad and I could focus on my lifts rather than the pain I felt.
You sound exactly the same as me. My mindset screams to me to lift heavy, As, I have seen some proper results, and crave more, you get me? Yes, I am striving to beat my own personal lift, and now, my aims are to beat whoever I lift with, irrespective of their size and skill levels, silly eh? I think I am going to get the IGF-1 Lr3, and rest a few days, and go again, see how I feel.. It'll be good to train without shifting my position with the bar to get the least mind numbingly bad pain.. :-) Cheers bro'
rest is really important part of training, and trust me you have sign of evertraining and you can cause more damage and looses with that. get some rest and leave body to heal and rest a bit. it been mentioned here that after good rest you came back strong and will push more again.
Overtraining is something that has come back to me with a vengeance. After such an immense gap between the iron, I am probably, reading these replies, going at it again far too hard. Thank you mate. :-)
I had to stop lifting heavy and go to lighter weight and higher reps. My joints just couldn't take the heavy weight anymore. Heavy is all relative but when I stopped doing sets of heavy weight for only 3-4 reps and went with lighter weight and 12-20 reps, my joints have thanked me tremendously.
Good call. My joints have proper started this pain since starting the strength training part of my regime. Thank you fella.
WithdrawlYou may want to consider taking a week of to heal and then coming back and using a rep range of 12-20 for a while to let your tendons and joints get a break from suck heavy stress. You may actually end up gaining by taking a break and switching to lighter training for a bit. Muscle soreness is one thing, but tendon and joint pain is more serious and you need to make some adjustment to get it taken care of so it doesn't become a chronic problem. Consider using IGF-1 Lr3 at 40-50,mcg (pre or post workout) a day for 4 weeks. This relieved pain in my knee tendons permanently. There are some pretty nice tendon healing properties with IGF-1 Lr3. All you'd need is one bottle so its not very expensive and might be worth a try. Combining the rest week with IGF-1 lr3 and a higher rep range when you resume training might really help you out.
Just looking at the IGF-1 Lr3 as I type. Agree, muscle soreness is one thing, and to be expected. And, I enjoy the feeling of that after a session, always a good sign as far as I have been concerned. I ail consider the change in training to brother. Cheers :-) Sounds like a plan.
Your training regime is very intense and I have found when I accumulate aches and pains and hit plateaus that Im just too overtrained and my body needs a layoff despite my brain telling me I have to go to the gym. Weider used to recommend 2 week rests a few times a year. I find even 4-5 days once in a while makes a huge difference even within a cycle. This may sound like a cop-out but I'm old like you and we have to accept we are not 20 and our joints, ligaments, tendons, and on and on just cannot sustain the stress and forces they could formerly handle no matter how strong the drive in our hearts wants to push it. When I come back I have less pain, more focus and usually can lift more despite the off time. Alternatively you can work around your injuries, say your shoulders bother you the most- not train them for a time. But you sound head-to-toe burned out. Others are going to follow recommending Deca or this or that for helping your joints but I would start with rest. I do use NSAID mixtures of aspirin and tylenol or ibuprofen occasionally and those are helpful but habitual use should be avoided because they can be detrimental for a variety of reasons.
My brain is to blame, a lot, Agreed. I am told to "lay off" for a while, especially by my wife. I train with lads half my age, as most of them are, and I lift with them, and match them. My pride and drive are probably detrimental to my overall health, agreed.I genuinely do not accept that it's my age, with one side of my brain, whereas the other side screams at me it most certainly is!
I am off painkillers and anti-inflammatories too, something I was on for years, and stopped, as it bloats, now take zinc.
Perhaps you are right, I am sure you are. Still doesn't make it an easier read brother :-(
Thank you for your reply :-)