+ 4 More and more stupid cycles
Is it just me getting older and more intolerant, or are we seeing more and more ridiculous cycles being posted up?
Anyone had a look in the logs recently? Go take a look. "I'm 180lbs, 2nd cycle, first was tren and 20%bf. My diet is in check. Want to run deca, test etc".
What's going on? Are we failing to help these guys? What can we do about it? More and more parroting in the cycles pages, lots of inexperienced folks giving inexperienced others advice. I feel like we (myself included) are failing these guys.
I'm guilty of not spending the time in the cycles pages that I used to, I apologise for that but it gets on my nerves sometimes. I have some ideas, wanted to hear others opinions.
My main idea was a team of "cycle advisors" that new members can recognise a tag etc so they know they can take good experienced real advice from. Thoughts?
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This is one of the reasons I decided to back off a little on posting in some of those. I see the ridiculousness and try to point it out but I tend to offend people by what I write. Maybe I don't have as much estro flowing through me like most do? You ever see that post that makes you rage a little? How about a Lottle? I don't give cycle advice at all because some of mine are very unconventional and what works for some does not work for all. And because the flames would burn bright lol.
Yep, I feel the exact same way. Would just like to see if we can do something positive about it rather than all of us getting more frustrated and "throwing in the towel" in terms of offering cycle advice.
Or what about a tag for inexperienced members continually giving out bad advice? I've stated before i would never start dishing out cycle advice, I simply don't have anywhere near the knowledge or experience to do so yet I constantly spot guys I've seen asking for basic advice on pct protocol or Ai dosing for example then think because someone gave them an answer it means their now qualified to regurgitate it in the cycle logs.
Idk , if it's a seen as a big enough issue maybe a flagging option of some kind (thinking out loud) if not I guess we have to continue to rely on the guys that can offer the guidance required to stay deep in the trenches of the Eroids cycle logs.
Good post B, some food for thought there.
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watching this thread with high intrest.
I used to give cycle advice, but thanks to some incompetent fucks and people unwilling to learn I kind of gave up. It's time consuming to go through each cycle and try to advise people. Especially when only about 10% of the people are actually ready to accept advice and cooperate.
I wish there was an integrated feature when setting up cycle logs so that the persons weight, height, bodyfat, and age must be listed. Also it would be nice if it said male or female because I just spent 30 mins critiquing the fuck out of some cycle only to find out it was a for a female lol. Anyways I'll try and drop by every so often and give advice if I get time. I know it can get out of hand sometimes
I think its conscious and unconscious ignorance. No amount of tagging or alerting on who is responding will matter. Its a social thing......people want the results now and beleive if they take more it will work.
Tren seems to be easily "prescribed" In over, I would say, 15 cycles ive yet to go over 75mg a day......straight up. Yet you see 2nd and 3rd cycles on 100mg a day.....but then its an easy way out.
I see a similar trend in GH as well....5-8IU even 10iu and you see the physiques and its like WTF. there was one update few days ago.....guy on GH and it was astounding what he thought he must be seeing in the mirror.
It can only get worse....if you go back 10 years on the Interweb there was more good people who had experience and less people that wanted it all now. Now its gone reverse....we have less numbers of "good" people and more people that "want it now"
Natures self correcting mechanism..........will as always serve us eventually
I'm the same with tren, haven't felt the need to go past 75mg ed, to be honest 50mg ed works fine for me.
I agree totally, I just see it spiralling out of control at the moment. If I go back 12 months, the volume of stupid shit now is incomparable.
AnonWell i have slowed down on advising cycles cause what i see is when i show them how to do it right.. they roll on what fuckwhatisay advised them which is just a waste of my time.. i get alot of pm asking for help and i will study the guy and tell em what i think and its not always what they want to hear.. i think i know to keep a dude in right direction but if they dont listen oh well..
AnonYou can take an anorexic girl to McDonalds, But you can't make her eat it. Preach
Anonthere is a small group of people here who truly know what the F*$! they're talking about.. the others just regurgitate the info..its frustrating getting to a forum that already has 10+ comments, all of which are terrible advice. what do we do? be assholes and call the other members out? I try to only comment on posts in which its fresh and I can lay the concrete, or on posts where other members have actually laid down the proper advice and I can concur or further it.
At some point 600mg of test split into 2 shots per week became the standard "starter cycle" but i've said it 100 times.. I dont agree at all. fairly certain i've written threads about it. The starter should be 300mg because 9/10 people jumping to steroids don't have proper training, diet etc.. they are just looking for a short cut. the 600mg of test starter translates to 1G by the third cycle giving these kids the concept that its normal to run several grams of gear.
At what point do you not question yourself when you're running 3-4 oils, 2 orals at high doses and weigh 180 pounds or still have 18% BF.. missing the key, conceptual-precursors
I kid you not bro, i read where an advanced member gave some dude with 20% BF the advice to run a 20 week straight clen cycle.. I wish for the life of me I could find the post. no weeks off, nothing regarding receptors, nothing regarding the fact his BF puts him at risk for a fkn heart attack. Or IDK, maybe the fact running 20 weeks straight of Clen is fucking retarded? But at that point, like I said - the person asking for advice see's that and finds it as acceptable since the person has a high karma number.. Went way off topic here but felt like going on a rant lol.
while I like this idea, one fact remains.. most people are only asking questions to gain some sort of acceptance. If you tell them they aren't meant for gear, chances are - they aren't going to listen.. if you tell them use 1 compound instead of 5.. again, the past has shown that they have already made their minds up. There have been times in cycle logs where i've got so frustrated I've just left with saying "HAVE A GREAT FUCKING CYCLE, ENJOY TRT BY THE TIME YOU'RE 25"
You and I sing from the same hymn sheet here. My first ever cycle was 250mg/wk. I grew rapidly on that.
My 1st real cycle was 250 sust a week lol. Because I was not in the best shape to actually start a 500 mg routine so I was smart enough to start small and as I grew work in other cycles.